8th amendment referendum part 3 - Mod note and FAQ in post #1

Lackey

Lackey wrote: »

Right now The Iona institute woman is saying that abortion will be allowed up to 9 months/birth if a woman has mental health issues or the baby has downs syndrome :pac:

i hope the yes side are putting this right straight away!
I'm not sure if I am sorry or glad I can't watch this!

antiskeptic

KaneToad wrote: »

She is insufferable. But speaks well. She is a good performer for her sides argument.

Head and shoulders above the rest. Boylans having a 'mare.

KaneToad

Shelga wrote: »

This Mark Murphy guy is hot! This debate is a farce so I may as well jump on the tone-lowering bandwagon too.

The No GP seems hotter...

Uncharted

doylefe wrote: »

The verve

The "abortion" drugs don't work......

antiskeptic

bubblypop wrote: »

i hope the yes side are putting this right straight away!
I'm not sure if I am sorry or glad I can't watch this!

Mary more or less saying trust the pollies.

vicwatson

That cork dude = Scruffiest gp I’ve every seen

AllForIt

What GP's collectively have to say on this issue has noting to do with it afaic. They are in a position to recount how all of this plays out for them but it's doesn't make any difference to me what GP's have to go though to provide for abortion should I vote Yes.

KaneToad

antiskeptic wrote: »

Mary more or less saying trust the pollies.

Ronan Mullens saying the opposite

"and I'm a politician"

Shelga

In my opinion they are over-emphasising the importance of GPs in all of this. There will be Yes and No voters amongst them, like anyone else, because abortion is a moral issue, not a medical one. Some random GP’s opinion would have no bearing on my decision what to do with my own body. Especially that lady GP dressed in red, who thinks a 2 week old embryo is of equal importance to me, her living, breathing patient.

AnneFrank

doylefe wrote: »

The verve

It's a human condition

Ally Dick

The infanticide brigade are losing this debate on tv

dark crystal

I hope that female patients of those pro life doctors in the audience are watching tonight.

KaneToad

Shelga wrote: »

In my opinion they are over-emphasising the importance of GPs in all of this. There will be Yes and No voters amongst them, like anyone else, because abortion is a moral issue, not a medical one. Some random GP’s opinion would have no bearing on my decision what to do with my own body. Especially that lady GP dressed in red, who thinks a 2 week old embryo is of equal importance to me, her living, breathing patient.

Many people respect the opinions of GPs. (I'm not one of them)

Uncharted

KaneToad wrote: »

Many people respect the opinions of GPs. (I'm not one of them)

Doctors differ and patients die....

vicwatson

Claire Byrne doing her best to give more time to the anti choicers, it’s so blatant

robarmstrong

Ally Dick wrote: »

The infanticide brigade are losing this debate on tv

Who are the infanticide brigade?

I see nobody trying to commit infanticide as that would be killing born children.

Do you know the difference between a born baby and a 12 week fetus?

Larbre34

Ally Dick wrote: »

The infanticide brigade are losing this debate on tv

Comments like that pull it back for them a fair bit. Nice one.

circular flexing

RobertKK wrote: »

It depends on your doctor.

On the Last Word, the compassion is on the No side.
Dr John Monaghan said he would treat a woman if she needed treatment even if the threat to her life was three or four months away and there were no immediate threats to her life, Dr Louise Kenny on the Yes side said she wouldn't and used the 8th as an excuse.


So maybe Yes doctors are too conservative with treatment and the No doctors aren't.

Did you completely miss the part where the ethics committee of the hospital didn't allow a termination of pregnancy in Michelle Harte's case. Prof. Kenny has indicated many times that termination was the preferred option in this case but she was prevented from doing so.

KaneToad

Uncharted wrote: »

Doctors differ and patients die....

Seems to be more pro life docs having their say.

Shelga

KaneToad wrote: »

Many people respect the opinions of GPs. (I'm not one of them)

I’d rather hear from women who have been harmed by the 8th, than 15 minutes devoted to the opinions of GPs.

antiskeptic

KaneToad wrote: »

Ronan Mullens saying the opposite

"and I'm a politician"

Nettle Soup

I think No have come up with zero solutions here and as a result will lose heavily.

lawred2

So yeah 50/50 split my hole. Nearly all these GPs are quite clearly on the no side.

Claire is not running a balanced show tonight. Not sure whether that's her intention.

ricero

Shocked at how poor the yes side have been tonight

circadian

RobertKK wrote: »

It depends on your doctor.

On the Last Word, the compassion is on the No side.
Dr John Monaghan said he would treat a woman if she needed treatment even if the threat to her life was three or four months away and there were no immediate threats to her life, Dr Louise Kenny on the Yes side said she wouldn't and used the 8th as an excuse.


So maybe Yes doctors are too conservative with treatment and the No doctors aren't.

That's a good one. You should try stand up.

KaneToad

vicwatson wrote: »

Claire Byrne doing her best to give more time to the anti choicers, it’s so blatant

I doubt it. They will have a stop watch on each sides contributions.

RobertKK

circular flexing wrote: »

Did you completely miss the part where the ethics committee of the hospital didn't allow a termination of pregnancy in Michelle Harte's case. Prof. Kenny has indicated many times that termination was the preferred option in this case but she was prevented from doing so.

Which Dr Louise Kenny said she was directly involved in...

Larbre34

vicwatson wrote: »

Claire Byrne doing her best to give more time to the anti choicers, it’s so blatant

Nonsense. Nobody is more concious of balance than her, broadcasters will have been warned and warned.

Uncharted

Headtheball alert in the guantanamo jumpsuit.

vicwatson

The anti choicers are seriously mental looking