8th amendment referendum part 3 - Mod note and FAQ in post #1

dark crystal

ricero wrote: »

Shocked at how poor the yes side have been tonight

They're not getting the same airtime as the No side at all.

Lackey

bubblypop wrote: »

i hope the yes side are putting this right straight away!
I'm not sure if I am sorry or glad I can't watch this!

Trying to but getting shouted at

Now a GP from Cavan that worked in England said that women were forced to have abortion.

I advise you not to turn it on.

January

KaneToad wrote: »

I doubt it. They will have a stop watch on each sides contributions.

It's quite obviously biased to the no side.

Shelga

Disbelieving gasps at Peter Boylan saying a foetus is not fully formed at 12 weeks? Surely that is extremely bloody obvious? There must be many imbeciles in this audience tonight.

P_1

Poor Peter Boylan looks like a man aching for a single malt at this stage. Can only imagine how frustrating the no debaters and audience members are for him.

AnneFrank

lawred2 wrote: »

So yeah 50/50 split my hole. Nearly all these GPs are quite clearly on the no side.

Claire is not running a balanced show tonight. Not sure whether that's her intention.

First do no harm, it's what drs are about

Larbre34

The smiling mis-carried dead baby was enjoying her life.

Jesus ****ing wept buckets.

lawred2

Uncharted wrote: »

Headtheball alert in the guantanamo jumpsuit.

Poor girl. How do you debate with someone with that experience?

bloodless_coup

Back of the net!

cherryghost

Probably the most biased 'debate' I've seen in this country.

robarmstrong

RobertKK wrote: »

Which Dr Louise Kenny said she was directly involved in...

Why are you still posting? A mod instructed you to either answer SusieBlue or not post at all as you continuously avoided her question.

Regardless of whether or not you're having a conversation with the mod in the background via PM's, it's common sense to either yano, do as the mod instructed by answering SusieBlue, or not post until you clear it up with the mod and they redact their note in-thread.

KaneToad

Oooooh, saucer of milk for Dr Monaghan

ohnonotgmail

RobertKK wrote: »

Which Dr Louise Kenny said she was directly involved in...

Have you replied to SueieBlue yet Robert?

BabysCoffee

Well that was highly disrespectful from one professional to another

January

Hmm in order to become fully functional....

Larbre34

lawred2 wrote: »

Poor girl. How do you debate with someone with that experience?

You tell her shes talking shyte for the purposes of stirring up outrageous rubbish

fxotoole

AnneFrank wrote: »

First do no harm, it's what drs are about

Irish doctors don't swear the hippocratic oath, as has already been pointed out ad infinitum on this thread

gctest50

AnneFrank wrote: »

First do no harm, it's what drs are about

Hippocrates

wtf like ? I never said dat

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SusieBlue

RobertKK wrote: »

It depends on your doctor.

On the Last Word, the compassion is on the No side.
Dr John Monaghan said he would treat a woman if she needed treatment even if the threat to her life was three or four months away and there were no immediate threats to her life, Dr Louise Kenny on the Yes side said she wouldn't and used the 8th as an excuse.


So maybe Yes doctors are too conservative with treatment and the No doctors aren't.

That doesn’t answer my question. That’s a cop out.
I’m getting laser treatment on my cervix. If I was pregnant this could cause miscarriage so I’m not allowed to have it. The baby would have equal right to life as me.
No doctor will touch me.

You have said that the 8th has done good and does not effect women’s healthcare.
I’m showing you and telling you exactly how it is effecting me.

How can you stand by what you’re saying?

AllForIt

Ppl being forced into abortion has noting to do with providing for abortion. Either abortion is morally right or it isn't so if one is forced by a man to have an abortion that makes no difference as to whether it's right or wrong.

I really wish the NO side would provide for me per se arguments against it rather than side-effect arguments that I don't even know are true.

antiskeptic

K.O. peter boylan on the canvas

stampydmonkey

lawred2 wrote: »

So yeah 50/50 split my hole. Nearly all these GPs are quite clearly on the no side.

Claire is not running a balanced show tonight. Not sure whether that's her intention.

Most definitely biased. She is constantly giving the No side more air time and not stopping them shouting over each other. Poor poor debate and not balanced in the slightest..disgraceful from RTE

KaneToad

cherryghost wrote: »

Probably the most biased 'debate' I've seen in this country.

Don't think it was biased. Didn't think it was any good. Very weak contributions on both sides.

dark crystal

Jesus, this debate is extremely one sided at this stage; it's actually shocking.

bloodless_coup

The No side are winning in terms of the ratio of hot women compared to the Yes side.

Brego888

As an undecided voter I feel the No side have come off better here

Yer Da sells Avon

KaneToad wrote: »

Oooooh, saucer of milk for Dr Monaghan

Did anyone notice he was trying to stifle a smile after saying that. It's like it's all just a game to a lot of people on the No side.

RabbleRouser2k

Shelga wrote: »

I’d rather hear from women who have been harmed by the 8th, than 15 minutes devoted to the opinions of GPs.

Many women are unwilling to come forward regarding their experiences. I'm not trying to shame anyone, just pointing out there's always a 'fear' of 'outing yourself', when it comes to things like sexuality, abortion, mental illness, or even embarrassing conditions like incontinence, haemhorroids, or erectile dysfunction. Hence the doctors can speak about this without divulging a patient's name or personal life.

Got the 'Yes' pamphlet in the post today, they had testimonies or comments from women who object to the 8th.

gmisk

Mary Lou has been fantastic tonight, Dr Boylan did his best but was pretty much harassed and not allowed to speak.
I didn't find this balanced at all Claire Byrne did not chair at all, the opposite of the late late show which allowed people from both side to speak in a clear way.

Larbre34

KaneToad wrote: »

Oooooh, saucer of milk for Dr Monaghan

Stay classy club - tie dude.

Comments like his, telling one of pre-eminent OBGYNs in the country to go back to school only helps the Yes side.