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2018 World Championship

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    #122
    Brian?
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    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Jesus! Graham Dott I still have nightmares about the most boring final I ever saw between him and Peter Ebdon, it finished near 1am With Dott winning 18-14.

    That was all Ebdon IMO. Jesus, I can't stand watching him play.

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    #123
    Snake Plisken
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    Brian? wrote: »
    That was all Ebdon IMO. Jesus, I can't stand watching him play.

    Probably I think they were both nervous about that final in 2006. Watching Dott vs Carter at the moment and who is commentating fecking boring head Ebdon!


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    #124
    Frankie Lee
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    Brian? wrote: »
    He does. He has everything to be an absolutely top player, except the right attitude. His shot selection can be truly awful. Takes on too many pots that are 50-60%, loses concentration and ends up breaking down far too often.

    I will never understand why he didn't work with a coach like Terry Griffiths. He's young enough that if he actually worked as hard as someone like Barry Hawkis or Joe Perry he could still really challenge. He won't though, I don't get it.

    When on form his break building and potting is right up there in the top bracket, it is a pity he has never fulfilled his potential. Nearing 6 years since he last won a ranking event though.


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    #125
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    Any Red Button this year? Haven't got Eurosport and the BBC coverage seems pretty poor so far.


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    #126
    Joe_ Public
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    Brian? wrote: »
    He does. He has everything to be an absolutely top player, except the right attitude. His shot selection can be truly awful. Takes on too many pots that are 50-60%, loses concentration and ends up breaking down far too often.

    I will never understand why he didn't work with a coach like Terry Griffiths. He's young enough that if he actually worked as hard as someone like Barry Hawkis or Joe Perry he could still really challenge. He won't though, I don't get it.

    Fair comment. Mark Allen, who has worked with Griffiths, has really come on leaps and bounds in terms of attitude the past coping of years. Maguire, sadly, just can’t seem to make that step. Pity cos the game really could have done with his talent at the top instead of in the middle of the pack.


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    #127
    The Nal
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    Any Red Button this year? Haven't got Eurosport and the BBC coverage seems pretty poor so far.

    Yeah. The red button is gone in Ireland but if youre with Sky go to add channels.

    Frequency: 10.773
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    Symbol rate: 22.0
    FEC: 5/6
    Standard: DVB-S
    Modulation scheme: QPSK

    And you should find "BBC RB1".


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    #128
    Brian?
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Any Red Button this year? Haven't got Eurosport and the BBC coverage seems pretty poor so far.

    It's worth paying for the Eurosport player. You get every minute, plus on demand recordings.

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    #129
    Brian?
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Fair comment. Mark Allen, who has worked with Griffiths, has really come on leaps and bounds in terms of attitude the past coping of years. Maguire, sadly, just can’t seem to make that step. Pity cos the game really could have done with his talent at the top instead of in the middle of the pack.

    Yep, Allen has come on leaps and bounds.

    It's easy to forget, but it was working with Ray Reardon that turned Ronnie into a winner.

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    #130
    Joe_ Public
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    Brian? wrote: »
    Yep, Allen has come on leaps and bounds.

    It's easy to forget, but it was working with Ray Reardon that turned Ronnie into a winner.

    Certainly part of the jigsaw alright. Trump is the other guy who needs some serious direction. Not 100 per cent sure of his coaching arrangement right now but I know he regularly practices with Ronnie which I always suspect suits Ron much more than the other way round.


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    #131
    Loafing Oaf
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    Stevens taking sportsmanship a bit too far there.


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    #132
    Snake Plisken
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Stevens taking sportsmanship a bit too far there.

    Yep he should have left the red make the call! The replays show the ball never moved.


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    #133
    Snake Plisken
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    Alan McManus is doing a great job as a match commentator on the BBC. Hell of a lot better then Peter Ebdon.


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    #134
    Brian?
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Certainly part of the jigsaw alright. Trump is the other guy who needs some serious direction. Not 100 per cent sure of his coaching arrangement right now but I know he regularly practices with Ronnie which I always suspect suits Ron much more than the other way round.

    I thought Trump was working with some old pro. Can’t remember who though. I know Ronnie does a bit of coaching with some of the Chinese guys.

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    #135
    Brian?
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    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Alan McManus is doing a great job as a match commentator on the BBC. Hell of a lot better then Peter Ebdon.

    I’m 100% on Eurosport. Dominic Dale is the pits though.

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    #136
    Joe_ Public
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    McManus is top notch. Dunno if he still does his blog online but it’s well worth checking out if he does.


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    #137
    taytobreath
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Ronnies temperament is so good. Imagine saying that 15 years ago.

    Hes smelled blood with Selby gone.

    this is exactly what I was thinking, with Selby gone I think he has a great shot at this years.


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    #138
    Brae100
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    Brian? wrote: »
    Yep, Allen has come on leaps and bounds.

    It's easy to forget, but it was working with Ray Reardon that turned Ronnie into a winner.

    Ronnie is fond of Ray, but it has been Steve Peters, the sport's psychologist who has done the big work with Ronnie.


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    #139
    Brae100
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    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Alan McManus is doing a great job as a match commentator on the BBC. Hell of a lot better then Peter Ebdon.

    I don't like McManus as a commentator. Every second shot is, "What a shot!". Joe Perry was excellent in the comms box last month.


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    #140
    Joe_ Public
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    Brae100 wrote: »
    Ronnie is fond of Ray, but it has been Steve Peters, the sport's psychologist who has done the big work with Ronnie.

    Unquestionably a big factor. I think with Ronnie it’s all a consequence of being happier in himself and maturing as an individual - the odd mental meltdown notwithstanding of course. Family, his father being released, his running, general fitness, business interests, it all keeps the black clouds away and helps when it comes to form and motivation on the table imo.


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    #141
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    #142
    Gwynplaine
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    Ebdon is just as painful to listen to as he was to watch.


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    #143
    Brian?
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    Brae100 wrote: »
    Ronnie is fond of Ray, but it has been Steve Peters, the sport's psychologist who has done the big work with Ronnie.

    I just meant on the snooker side, his tactical game. But yeah, Steve Peters can probably take a huge amount of credit.

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    #144
    Joe_ Public
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    Classic crucible frame there between Hawkins and Carrington. Baz tried to pot a long yellow while hampered by the green then bizarrely played safe on it when he had a decent chance to pot it in green pocket. Perfect illustration of how the world championships can scramble even the most settled of brains.


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    #146
    Joe_ Public
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    They're the type of frames you can appreciate though. Some fascinating glimpses at the kind of stuff that must go through players heads in that cauldron, Virgo and Ebdon were rightly befuddled at loads of the shot selections but it's easy when you're sitting in the booth or at home. Allen took 4 and a half minutes to play a shot in his match earlier, probably wouldnt do much for his AST that!!


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    #148
    Joe_ Public
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    There's a rule, isn't there, about what time the last frame has to start but forget what it is. No chance they'll make it though, I'd say.


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    #150
    Joe_ Public
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    Very ropey session by both players. Carrington will be happy enough to be at least still in touch but you'd think Hawkins will play better when they come back.


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