Hostage/Siege in French Supermarket - Islamic State angle

Harry Palmr

News just breaking. Only one person with psychotic religious/cultural beliefs apparently.

Mark Henderson

Maybe he bought some rotten apples and they won't take them back.

Sand

Just another day in the new France.

kneemos

Not a bad idea. Plenty of food and water for a prolonged stay. And most importantly no need to order in Pizza with hidden microphones.

Elmer Blooker

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Only one person with psychotic religious/cultural beliefs apparently.

So a moderate rebel then.

Yeah but a white guy probably kerbed a wheel somewhere today. Why pick on the Muslims?

SexBobomb

Reports of one off duty policeman and a butcher, in the supermarket presumably have been shot.

inforfun

Bit of a dodgy translation "touched" should have been "hit"

Graces7

Before I came to Ireland, and we are going back 16 years, I was half planning to move to France; I speak fluent French...Thankfully someone far wiser than I will ever be warned m that things were heading this way .. so very sad and shocking.

inforfun

6 mins ago

The gunman is now alone with one policeman inside the supermarket, and all other hostages have been freed, according to the mayor of Trebes.

He's pretty useless so.

Salvation Tambourine

Does the release of hostages eliminate the ISIS connection? Doesn't seem their style.

K.Flyer

Nokotan wrote: »

Does the release of hostages eliminate the ISIS connection? Doesn't seem their style.

Policeman is a bigger prize to him and its easier to manage just one person rather than having several who may try to take him down.

Fann Linn

The Isis/Syria angle was also reported on SOR by some reporter at the scene.

topper75

Graces7 wrote: »

Before I came to Ireland, and we are going back 16 years, I was half planning to move to France; I speak fluent French...Thankfully someone far wiser than I will ever be warned m that things were heading this way .. so very sad and shocking.

I'm happy that went your way.

However, for all our sakes, I can't see any immunity for us in the long game with this. A lot of honest people will come. But hidden in among them will be this element - guaranteed.

nervous_twitch

Graces7 wrote: »

Before I came to Ireland, and we are going back 16 years,  I was half planning to move to France; I speak fluent French...Thankfully someone far wiser than I will ever be warned m that things were heading this way .. so very sad and shocking.

What are you talking about? I live in France and it is a perfectly safe, beautiful country.

Graces7

topper75 wrote: »

I'm happy that went your way.

However, for all our sakes, I can't see any immunity for us in the long game with this. A lot of honest people will come. But hidden in among them will be this element - guaranteed.

Yes I know . Maybe we on the smaller offshore islands will fare better. And we already have some pretty difficult home grown violent folk.

Harry Palmr

I think you're much more likely to die by bureaucracy than terrorism in France.

SEPT 23 1989

Gid Moaning

I was pissing by the door, when I heard two shats

inforfun

2 people killed, 1 of them the butcher of the supermarkt.
Several wounded

And witnesses reporting the usual yel that comes with this kind of attacks

Richard Hillman

Suspect is "Known to authorities", Shock-Horror. Also demands the release of Abdeslam



https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/977160355574173701

Mark Henderson

nervous_twitch wrote: »

What are you talking about? I live in France and it is a perfectly safe, beautiful country.

There are parts of France that are safe and there are parts that the police won't enter because of "cultural enrichment"

To deny what has happened to parts of France is head in the sand stuff.

Many parts of Marseille are akin to some of the worst s h it holes in the middle east.

10000maniacs

nervous_twitch wrote: »

What are you talking about? I live in France and it is a perfectly safe, beautiful country.

Well apparently not "perfectly safe" to the 300 or so people killed by ISIS since 2015.

Harry Palmr

Apparently everyone has been released/escaped

dav3

nervous_twitch wrote: »

What are you talking about? I live in France and it is a perfectly safe, beautiful country.

The fact that you live there, the fact that France is the most visited country in the world by tourists and the fact that it actually is a perfectly safe, beautiful country, means little to some people.

They've made up their mind and they're not for turning. They have youtube videos, ranting blogs and opinions from idiots that they know to back up their prejudices.

Harry Palmr

Ireland used to be home to the IRA and dozens of other terrorist groups and off-shoots yet how many people here felt unsafe in their day to day lives? I type that as someone who lived in Tramore when a customer was shot dead by the IRA in a bank in 1979

inforfun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J78SdCzzumA

English spoken France24 live stream

BrokenArrows

topper75 wrote: »

I'm happy that went your way.

However, for all our sakes, I can't see any immunity for us in the long game with this. A lot of honest people will come. But hidden in among them will be this element - guaranteed.

Ya but whenever they come to ireland and experience the craic they change their evil ways and have a few scoops with the lads.

The_Kew_Tour

To be fair they took nice break till today.

inforfun

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ireland used to be home to the IRA and dozens of other terrorist groups and off-shoots yet how many people here felt unsafe in their day to day lives?

Was Ireland very popular as tourist destination in those days? People living here might know what the deal is, people abroad dont.

Even when i told people in Holland 16 years ago that i had plans to move here they thought i would have been blown to pieces within 2 months.


Whether or not it is safe (again) a country does suffer consequences because of **** like this.

kneemos

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ireland used to be home to the IRA and dozens of other terrorist groups and off-shoots yet how many people here felt unsafe in their day to day lives? I type that as someone who lived in Tramore when a customer was shot dead by the IRA in a bank in 1979

The IRA was the least of Tramore,s problems.

topper75

topper75 wrote: »

I'm happy that went your way.

However, for all our sakes, I can't see any immunity for us in the long game with this. A lot of honest people will come. But hidden in among them will be this element - guaranteed.

Yosuke Sasaki has already paid the price.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

To be fair they took nice break till today.

Yeah it's been a while. Thought they'd come back with a bigger count tbh.

RDM_83 again

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ireland used to be home to the IRA and dozens of other terrorist groups and off-shoots yet how many people here felt unsafe in their day to day lives? I type that as someone who lived in Tramore when a customer was shot dead by the IRA in a bank in 1979

I had relatives that would never go north of the border because of the troubles, you had watch towers over looking the nationalist areas etc
The security bill would have been completely unsustainable if it had been a larger part of the UK.

People adjust to everything it doesn't mean people should have to

The_Kew_Tour

It's like as if the IRA and Co was great Craic or something

ChikiChiki

Doesn't surprise any more. As Manuel Valls said after the Nice attack, terrorism is just something they have to live with in France. The horse has bolted long ago.


edit* Why does some muppet always bring the IRA into these threads? Its about an attack in France.

Fann Linn

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Doesn't surprise any more. As Manuel Valls said after the Nice attack, terrorism is just something they have to live with in France. The horse has bolted long ago.


edit* Why does some muppet always bring the IRA into these threads? Its about an attack in France.

Its called 'deflection'.
Back on track, a French Police union spokesmn said over 20 attacks were foiled last year, and this year alone another 7 have already been stopped.

Mountainsandh

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Apparently everyone has been released/escaped

No, the live French news I am following are saying it is still ongoing. Dozens injured as well as 3 dead.

The guy hijacked a car on the way to supermarket, passenger is critical, and driver was recently found dead down a ditch.

dav3

dav3 wrote: »

The fact that you live there, the fact that France is the most visited country in the world by tourists and the fact that it actually is a perfectly safe, beautiful country, means little to some people.

They've made up their mind and they're not for turning. They have youtube videos, ranting blogs and opinions from idiots that they know to back up their prejudices.

And what prejudices are those?

We're talking about the safety of living in some areas of France. Are we watching Youtube videos that are prejudiced against French suburbia or something?

I can't imagine many people are arsed making videos about that.

thebull85

Diversity is our strength.

Hector Savage

dav3 wrote: »

The fact that you live there, the fact that France is the most visited country in the world by tourists and the fact that it actually is a perfectly safe, beautiful country, means little to some people.

They've made up their mind and they're not for turning. They have youtube videos, ranting blogs and opinions from idiots that they know to back up their prejudices.

Utter Bollocks.

Stop deflecting, we all saw you shown up by Humphrys on here ...

Mountainsandh

He's just been shot. Situation is over. Time to deal with injuries/saving those alive.

AllForIt

I suggest they hand over Abdeslam asap. Then blow them to all to bits. Sometimes one needs to show those kinds of ppl that we are not better than them rather we can be worse than them if we want. Until then, they'll take the piss.

Cool_CM

Reports on Sky that the gunman is now dead.

Mountainsandh

He is, but they don't know what they're going to find inside.

For now, 3 dead and several injuries.

Fann Linn

Cool_CM wrote: »

Reports on Sky that the gunman is now dead.

Good.

Hector Savage

Mountainsandh wrote: »

He is, but they don't know what they're going to find inside.

For now, 3 dead and several injuries.

<snip> - no need for this ...

WinnyThePoo

Hector Savage wrote: »

Utter Bollocks.

Stop deflecting, we all saw you shown up by Humphrys on here ...

No we didn't.

Chris_Heilong

Whenever an Islamist is involved in these atrocities we always have people coming out of the wood work to say, well it is just like such and such. Why not just condemn the act and point out it is another in a long line of attacks coming from the Islamic direction and there might actually be a problem there.

Mountainsandh

Hector Savage wrote: »

2 real people dead, one little cockroach dead.

No, that's 3 dead, plus the cockroach.

The guy whose car was hijacked, a client in the supermarket, and one staff in supermarket (butcher ?).

dav3

Hector Savage wrote: »

Utter Bollocks.

Stop deflecting, we all saw you shown up by Humphrys on here ...

If you honestly believe I'm deflecting why are you replying?

I'm not btw. Are there any sane people who genuinely believe France has gone to the dogs?

Hector Savage

Mountainsandh wrote: »

No, that's 3 dead, plus the cockroach.

The guy whose car was hijacked, a client in the supermarket, and one staff in supermarket (butcher ?).

Apologies , didn't realise .