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Snow and frozen temperatures on the way - as if we had enough traffic chaos already!
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But yet people park their cars in these lively areas and most remain unscaped. I know your use the big vehicle bigger target excuse but I know a guy who parks his Scania up every night outside his house in one of these 'lively' areas and it hasn't been touched.
Also I heard a story not sure whether it's true or not you may be able to confirm or deny that a 7 once got stolen from outside the Lough Inn when the driver went in for a piss one night.
Stephen,I'm uncertain as to what your issues,or motives may be regarding Bus Atha Cliath's operating decisions during the current conditions.
If you are suggesting that Bus Atha Cliath staff are unwilling to operate services in these conditions,then you are simply incorrect.
However,me posting to that effect here is unlikely to change your mindset,but that is your perogative.
That being said,Bus Atha Cliath operated services up to 1900 on Wed night,with most routes having had a service all day up until then.
As somebody who WAS driving on Wednesday,I can only outline to you that the Garages were operational and that every Bus that entered service had a Driver behind the wheel.
The comparisons you make regarding Parked Scanias and the like are all well and good,however as many will attest to,the Public Services tend to be judged to a different metric...as can be proven by the attitudes displayed towards Fire & Ambulance personnel...flinging a hard snowball with destructive intent at a passing Bus is not at all comparable to leaving your neighbours Scania alone (Particularly as the owner might come out and beat the bullocks outa you for doing it !)
If you still feel aggrieved about the service provision on the days,then the Companies,the NTA and even the relevant Government Departments are readily accessible for complaints and observations,but perhaps think of laying off the front-line staff for a bit ?Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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Stephen,I'm uncertain as to what your issues,or motives may be regarding Bus Atha Cliath's operating decisions during the current conditions.
If you are suggesting that Bus Atha Cliath staff are unwilling to operate services in these conditions,then you are simply incorrect.
However,me posting to that effect here is unlikely to change your mindset,but that is your perogative.
That being said,Bus Atha Cliath operated services up to 1900 on Wed night,with most routes having had a service all day up until then.
As somebody who WAS driving on Wednesday,I can only outline to you that the Garages were operational and that every Bus that entered service had a Driver behind the wheel.
The comparisons you make regarding Parked Scanias and the like are all well and good,however as many will attest to,the Public Services tend to be judged to a different metric...as can be proven by the attitudes displayed towards Fire & Ambulance personnel...flinging a hard snowball with destructive intent at a passing Bus is not at all comparable to leaving your neighbours Scania alone (Particularly as the owner might come out and beat the bullocks outa you for doing it !)
If you still feel aggrieved about the service provision on the days,then the Companies,the NTA and even the relevant Government Departments are readily accessible for complaints and observations,but perhaps think of laying off the front-line staff for a bit ?
I don't have a problem. I just think that it was possible to run limited services until about 1 or 2pm yesterday just like the Luas and IE, obivously it would be impossible today or later on yesterday.0 -
WishUWereHere wrote: »I may be wrong, & You maybe right, but I was under the impression that it was only at 16h00 yesterday that the alert kicked in.
Certainly no one able to leave the Estate I am in this morning.
There is also a degree of confusion surrounding the Met Office's Alerts,which are purely advisory,and the subsequent Travel Advisories from the Government via the National Emergency Co-Ordination Group.
CIE participates in the meetings of the Emergency Planning Committee,and in situations such as currently exists,takes the Committee's guidance on board when making decisions regarding operations.
Right now,it is not just a case of ringing up the Met Office and using their alerts as the sole decision making criteria.
Any company with several thousand widely dispersed employees,most of whom will be operating away from a fixed base,and who also have an increased responsibility to the general public who may decide to attempt to use the services in these dangerous conditions,HAS to undertake a stringent Risk Analysis before making a call on the issue.
I am suggesting that this Risk Analysis process is exactly what preceeded the CIE decisions,and that it was a somewhat broader and more intense process than some Trade Union Official sitting atop Liberty Hall making "OK Lads,All Out" style telephone calls.
Given that Ireland is not (yet) a Police State,or centralized Command Style society,the right of any Private Company or Citizen to ignore the various Warnings and Advisories is fully recognized,with those that do so,being fully aware of the potential for having that decision reviewed and interpreted in a different forum,should any incidents occur.
A Transport Undertaking with 10 Trucks or Coaches operating on National Primary routes,may have a substantially different set of parameters to an undertaking with several thousand such vehicles and appropriate staff to consider ?
Assess the risk,make the decision.....In the current situation,I believe the correct decisions were taken,but that does not mean that Ireland cannot review the entire procedure to learn from it and substantially improve our National Emergency Strategy.
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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