Snow and frozen temperatures on the way - as if we had enough traffic chaos already!

thomasj

So, all the talk is of the upcoming cold snap, with some forecasters saying this could see snow levels not seen since 1982.

But how ready are we for it? Especially given the chaos seen in Dublin in the last few months and what about our public transport services ?

Even in 2010 we had a meltdown , it could be a crazy few weeks.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/coldest-spring-weather-since-2010-expected-next-week-as-beast-from-the-east-hits-ireland-829713.html

s14driftking

Expect the country to come to a grinding halt. Then there is the clean ups and flooding to deal with after.

amtc

It snowed on the day I was born...april 5

It snowed april 12 to 14 1999 (i was stranded in rds)

In 2010 it snowed from 3 december to 10 february 2011 (for work reasons I had to report this)

I am on board on our management company and they asked us to authorise griting...but the main road onto the n3 is neither under management company nor council...so really no point

taylor3

Ordered home heating oil yesterday morning at 9am.... still waiting. I'd say their fierce busy. Rang them at 12pm today to confirm they're coming. Still waiting. Have a small bit in the tank but want to top up.

Wishbone Ash

taylor3 wrote: »

Ordered home heating oil yesterday morning at 9am.... still waiting. I'd say their fierce busy. Rang them at 12pm today to confirm they're coming. Still waiting. Have a small bit in the tank but want to top up.

Some filling stations sell it in 25 liter drums if you're stuck.

Stephen15

Like most things in this country I will believe when I see it.

magicbastarder

https://twitter.com/theiaincameron/status/967314768938897408

thomasj

Stephen15 wrote:

Like most things in this country I will believe when I see it.

It would take something beyond miraculous for this not to happen.

magicbastarder

maybe he was just referring to filling stations selling 25 litre drums of kerosene...

thomasj

Oh yeah sorry

_Dara_

I have a feeling that this is being built up way too much. Not by the meteorologists who are mostly being cautious, but by layfolk.

tabbey

amtc wrote: »

In 2010 it snowed from 3 december to 10 february 2011

Ah yes, 2010 - the year of two winters!

It snowed in both January and December 2010.

I don't think the snow of December lasted until Feb 2011, I hope nobody was malingering.

L1011

I remember driving back from Carlow on 01/01/10 - it had snowed a little in Carlow in the small hours but it was clear when I left the hotel about 12, half way up the Carlow-Castledermot motorway that had only just opened it went to the road having one barely driveable lane. Crawled the rest of the way back, via the M50 rather than my usual cross-country roads because clearly the entire country wasn't expecting the snow and nothing was cleared.

Not that I'd want to be driving the gritters on NYE myself, but still...

The 12/10 snow did leave snow on the ground and low temperatures until 02/11 in parts definitely. Was driving 100,000km a year at the time and was all too aware of it.

Losty Dublin

L1011 wrote: »

I remember driving back from Carlow on 01/01/10 - it had snowed a little in Carlow in the small hours but it was clear when I left the hotel about 12, half way up the Carlow-Castledermot motorway that had only just opened it went to the road having one barely driveable lane. Crawled the rest of the way back, via the M50 rather than my usual cross-country roads because clearly the entire country wasn't expecting the snow and nothing was cleared.

Not that I'd want to be driving the gritters on NYE myself, but still...

That 1/1/10 was a freak as it snowed, thawed, froze and then took more snow, which then thawed and snowed a second time. I remember going into a pub at 8:30PM on what was a dry evening; at 12:30AM it was carnage on the roads. By midday it had largely cleared from the city

amtc

Believe me it did snow up to 2 February 2011. The only day that there was no weather warning was December 15 2010. I had to apply for force majeure exemption for my job for non delivery of post from the regulator so it's pretty much engrained on my brain!

Hilly Bill

I see the op has a crystal ball there with the foretelling of the impending traffic chaos.
Lads, it might snow a bit its happened before and we survived. Why the doom and gloom? Wouldn't it make more sense to give out about traffic chaos after it happened?

thomasj

Hilly Bill wrote:

I see the op has a crystal ball there with the foretelling of the impending traffic chaos. Lads, it might snow a bit its happened before and we survived. Why the doom and gloom? Wouldn't it make more sense to give out about traffic chaos after it happened?

Because we have too much experience of taking 3 hours to get to places that would usually take 30 minutes.

Not to mention how bad the city is at the moment .

Met eireanns said last night there could be red warnings issued this week and the emergency committee are to meet in the morning

endacl

_Dara_ wrote: »

I have a feeling that this is being built up way too much. Not by the meteorologists who are mostly being cautious, but by layfolk.

The Kings of Wishful Thinking...

thomasj

Time will tell.

Theres too much of a "sure it'll be grand " attitude in the country . It was like that when Ophelia struck.

I think what people are thinking is it will be grand because it won't snow rather than it will be grand because our infrastructure can take it.

So when we do get a real bad bout of weather were in for a real shock.

magicbastarder

there was quite a bit of 'forecasters/met eireann got it wrong with ophelia' from people i know who live in dublin/meath/kildare. because they didn't get battered.
notwithstanding the fact that the southwest *did* get battered, and there were three deaths.

tabbey

magicbastarder wrote: »

there was quite a bit of 'forecasters/met eireann got it wrong with ophelia' from people i know who live in dublin/meath/kildare. because they didn't get battered.
notwithstanding the fact that the southwest *did* get battered, and there were three deaths.

The forecasters got it fairly right, but the wind in the metropolitan area was relatively even. It is the gusting which does the structural damage, and thankfully this was lacking.

The underlying wind strength was more or less as forecast. If the Met office and government had not acted as they did, they would have been blamed if tragic events had been more numerous.

thomasj

https://twitter.com/campaignforleo/status/967772737300320256

Mint Sauce

taylor3 wrote: »

Ordered home heating oil yesterday morning at 9am.... still waiting. I'd say their fierce busy. Rang them at 12pm today to confirm they're coming. Still waiting. Have a small bit in the tank but want to top up.

I would not consider that a wait at all. Most of my local companies would already have their trucks on the road at 9am and deliveries already booked. A 9am call I would be surprised at same day, and wouldn't expect them till the next morning.

Jamie2k9

Hilly Bill wrote: »

I see the op has a crystal ball there with the foretelling of the impending traffic chaos.
Lads, it might snow a bit its happened before and we survived. Why the doom and gloom? Wouldn't it make more sense to give out about traffic chaos after it happened?

I have full confidence that you and your colleges will keep the country moving.

Good opportunity to put the learning from a few years ago into practice...

Isambard

buy all the bread....

thomasj

Jamie2k9 wrote:

Good opportunity to put the learning from a few years ago into practice...

Looking forward to see how Connolly fairs with both m3 parkway and PPT trains in the mix....

Hilly Bill

thomasj wrote: »

Because we have too much experience of taking 3 hours to get to places that would usually take 30 minutes.

Not to mention how bad the city is at the moment .

Met eireanns said last night there could be red warnings issued this week and the emergency committee are to meet in the morning

Just stay at home if you think you won't be able to cope with a bit of snow. Nothing is going to change.

thomasj

Nah I'll be grand, I trust you and your colleagues to get me to work and back ye always do in these circumstances

It's the rest of folk, who don't have heavy rail access that I'm thinking of......

Hilly Bill

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

I have full confidence that you and your colleges will keep the country moving.

Good opportunity to put the learning from a few years ago into practice...

I was up to my knees in snow the last time. Digging out points at 6 in the morning in minus 10. I still had a moany bloke give out that the train is late. I had to get defrosted before being able to make a call regarding the status of his train. I had to drive out there with no other car on the road and the reason for that is people made the decision to stay at home. They didn't go into panic mode wondering how will they cope. Its simple, if you look out your window one morning at it looks like the front of a Xmas card then prepare for your journey time to be longer. If the road conditions are bad then the buses may stop running, the trains will run with the possibility of some branch lines closing due to frozen points, queue twitter going on meltdown due to complaints of over crowding on trains, stations not gritted due to some lazy fecker or the station being closed due to the person not being able to make it in and a branch line closing. The Luas might be OK,
Basically it's not going to be the first so just get on with it.

thomasj

And whatever about the traffic chaos that ensued, I've nothing but admiration that ye keep the show on the road. Ye (Irish rail) did a great job and got us all home at a reasonable time the last time.

Hilly Bill

thomasj wrote: »

Looking forward to see how Connolly fairs with both m3 parkway and PPT trains in the mix....

Connolly will be grand, just stick them in a queue until a platform becomes free. 😁

Hilly Bill

thomasj wrote: »

And whatever about the traffic chaos that ensued, I've nothing but admiration that ye keep the show on the road. Ye (Irish rail) did a great job and got us all home at a reasonable time the last time.

Public transport will take whatever measures they need for safety reasons but some road users won't take the same precautions and coupled with idiotic driving and inexperienced that's when the fun starts.

thomasj

Hilly Bill wrote:

Public transport will take whatever measures they need for safety reasons but some road users won't take the same precautions and coupled with idiotic driving and inexperienced that's when the fun starts.

It happens all too often. The number of breakdowns and crashes that caused traffic chaos the last time along the M50 and N3 for example.

thomasj

_Dara_ wrote:

I have a feeling that this is being built up way too much. Not by the meteorologists who are mostly being cautious, but by layfolk.

In the farming forecast today met eireann said that they are fairly certain that this is happening.

Add Leo's tweet to it about the emergency committee sitting tomorrow morning .

Infini

Looking at the forecast myself I would say the east has a good chance of being hammered by snow. The airflow is coming in from Siberia and thats what led to the heavy snow the last time.

Would hope if its bad people just stay away as I can see it being very bad transport wise if it comes down heavy. They pulled the busses at 4pm the last time it happened too. Led to a crush in connolly as trains were the only thing still running.

liger

I have great faith in Leo and the relevant councils to be prepared and the panic will be unwarranted. That or it Won't be nearly as bad as feared.

kingshankly

thomasj wrote: »

https://twitter.com/campaignforleo/status/967772737300320256

Probably meeting to discuss how the can tax us for having snow in our gardens

Hilly Bill

How are we all coping this morning?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Hilly Bill wrote: »

How are we all coping this morning?

I'm thankful I don't have to go out as the dublin bus website doesn't seem to be working and I have no idea if the busses are running.

Vic_08

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I'm thankful I don't have to go out as the dublin bus website doesn't seem to be working and I have no idea if the busses are running.

Weather Disruption Limited Service

Wednesday, February 28, 2018





Updated 10.05

Dublin Bus wishes to advise customers that due to severe weather overnight, there will be significant disruption to services this morning. Our services are operating on main corridors due to poor road conditions.

Below is the current status for all routes. This page is being updated regularly.

Dublin Bus is reviewing the situation on an ongoing basis and is taking advice from Met Éireann and the National Emergency Co-ordination Committee. The safety of our customers and our employees is of paramount importance.

Customers can also get updates on our Twitter account; @dublinbusnews or call our customer service line on (01) 8734222.




For the latest update on your route please check the table below.


Routes Diversion
1 Operating from Omni Shopping Centre to Newgrove Avenue, Sandymount (Route 18 terminus). Not serving Shanard and St. John's Church.
4 Limited service operating on route

7 Limited service operating on route

7a Route 7a not serving Sallynoggin - operating via Sallyglen Road.
7b Limited service operating on route

7d Limited service operating on route

9 Operating via Glasnevin Avenue to St. Peter’s Road Credit Union. Not serving Beneavin.

11 Operating its normal route via Ballymun Road. Terminating at DCU terminus. Not serving Wadelai Estate.

13 Operating via Monastery Road to Grange Castle terminus. Not serving Woodford (southside). Terminating at Harristown Depot. Not serving Poppintree (northside).

14 Operating from Artane Roundabout to Dundrum. Operating via Nutgrove Shopping Centre and Broadford to Dundrum. Not serving Beaumont Avenue (Bottle Tower).

15 Operating via Firhouse Road to Ballycullen Road. Not serving Knocklyon Road and Scholarstown. Not serving Clongriffin, terminating at Donaghmede Roundabout.

15a Terminating at Orwell Roundabout. Not serving Limekiln.

15b Operating via Scholarstown and Killininney Road. Terminating at Route 15 terminus on Ballycullen Road. Not serving Stocking Avenue.

15d Operating from Ballyboden Roundabout. Not serving Whitechurch estate.
16 Limited service operating on route

17 Operating via Crumlin Road to Crumlin Village. Not serving Bangor Road. Terminating at Frascatti Shopping Centre. Not serving Blackrock Rail Station.

17a Limited service operating on route

18 Limited service operating on route

25 Operating to/from Spa Hotel. Not serving Lucan Village and Dodsboro.

25a Operating from terminus at SuperValu to Griffeen Avenue. Travelling via Ballyowen Road to Penny Hill. Unable to serve Foxborough and Earlsfort.

25b Operating from Route 25a terminus at SuperValu to Griffeen Avenue. Travelling via Ballyowen Road to Penny Hill. Unable to serve Adamstown, Foxborough and Earlsfort.

25d Limited service operating on route
25x Limited service operating on route

26 Limited service operating on route

27 Operating to Cheeverstown Road.

27a Operate via Malahide Road to/from Blunden Drive. Not serving Gracefield Road.

27b Not serving Castletimon Road.

27x Limited service operating on route

29a Not serving St. Anne's Estate.

31/a Operating its normal route via Sutton Cross to Howth Habour. Not serving the Summit

31b Operating its normal route via Sutton Cross to Howth Habour. Not serving Carrickbrack Road

31d Limited service operating on route
32 Limited service operating on route

32x Limited service operating on route

33 Limited service operating on route

33a Limited service operating on route

33b Limited service operating on route

33d Limited service operating on route

33x Limited service operating on route

37 Operating via Old Cabra Road. Not serving Blackhorse Avenue. Operating via Navan Road and Auburn Avenue. Not serving Castleknock Road.

38 Operating via Snugboro Road, Ballycoolin Road and Blanchardstown Road North to Damastown. Not serving Corduff. Operating via N3 and Blanchardstown Village to Snugboro Road. Not serving Auburn Avenue.

38a Operating via Snugboro Road, Ballycoolin Road and Blanchardstown Road North to Damastown. Not serving Corduff.

38b Operating via Snugboro Road, Ballycoolin Road and Blanchardstown Road North to Damastown. Not serving Corduff.

39 Limited service operating on route

39a Limited service operating on route

39x Limited service operating on route
40 Limited service operating on route

40b Terminating at Charlestown Shopping Centre. Not serving Tobberbur terminus.

40d Operating to Tyrrelstown.
41 Limited service operating on route

41b Terminating in Swords Manor. Not serving Rolestown.

41c Operating via Forest Road to Swords Manor. Operating via Rathbeale Road to Swords Manor. Not serving Applewood Estate.

41x Limited service operating on route

42 Operating via Malahide Road to City Centre. Not serving Seabury. Operating via Coast Road to Route 32 terminus. Not serving Church Road.

42d Limited service operating on route
43 Route 43 unable to serve Feltrim Lane/Mountgorry Way - operating via R106 Swords Road.
44 Terminating at Kilternan (Blue Church). Not serving Larkhill.

44b Terminating at Kilternan (Blue Church).
45a Terminating at Woodbrook.

46a Not serving O’Deveney Gardens.

46e Operating from Careysfort Avenue. Not serving Blackrock Rail Station.

47 Terminating at Enniskerry Road. Not serving Belarmine Estate.

49 Not serving Killakee Estate.

51d Limited service operating on route

51x Limited service operating on route

53 Operating via East Wall Road to Dublin Ferryport. Not serving West Road.

54a Terminating at Tallaght Square. Not serving Killtipper. Not serving Fortfield Park.

56a Operating via Belgard Road to The Square, Tallaght. Not serving Kingswood and Cookstown.

59 Terminating at Dalkey. Not serving Barnhill Road and Killiney.

61 Terminating at Scholarstown Road. Not serving Whitechurch Estate.

63 Operating to Carrickmines Retail Park.
65 Terminating at Blessington. Not serving Ballyknockan and Ballymore.

65b Operating normal route to Tallaght along N81/Tallaght Bypass. Not serving Killinarden.

66 Operating along N4. Not serving Lucan Village.

66a Operating along N4 and terminating at Louisa Bridge. Not serving Captain's Hill and Lucan Village.

66b Operating along N4 and terminating at Louisa Bridge. Not serving Castletown and Lucan Village.

66x Limited service operating on route

67 Limited service operating on route

67x Limited service operating on route

68/a Limited service operating on route

68x Limited service operating on route
69 Operating via Boot Road, St John’s Drive (Green Isle Hotel) to Rathcoole. Not serving St. John’s Wood.

69x Limited service operating on route

70 Operating via N3 and Clonee to Dunboyne. Not serving Littlepace.

70d Limited service operating on route
75 Limited service operating on route

76 Operating via Fonthill Road. Not serving Neilstown Road.

76a Limited service operating on route

77a Operating along N81/Tallaght Bypass. Not serving Killinarden and Seskin View.

77x Limited service operating on route

79/a Operating via Ballyfermot Road. Terminating at Cherry Orchard Hospital. Not serving Park West and Spiddel Park.

83 Terminating at Cashel Road. Not serving Captain's Drive. Not serving Tolka Estate.

84/a Limited service operating on route

84x Limited service operating on route

90 Limited service operating on route

102 Operating via Boroimhe and Swords Road to Dublin Airport. Not serving Forest Road

104 Limited service operating on route

111 Operating via Sallyglen Road to Bride's Glen. Not serving Pearse Villas. Operating to and from Bride's Glen. Not serving Loughlinstown Park.

114 Operating to and from Belarmine Roundabout. Not serving Ticknock. Operating from Careysfort Avenue. Not serving Blackrock Rail Station.

116 Terminating on Scholarstown Road. Not serving Whitechurch Estate.

118 Limited service operating on route

120 Operating to Ratoath. Not serving Ashtown.

122 Operating via Crumlin Road. Not serving Mourne Road (southside). Operating via Navan Road. Terminating at Halfway House. Not serving Fassaugh Road and Ashington Estate (northside).

123 Terminating at Walkinstown Roundabout. Not serving Killnamanagh Road (southside). Not serving Croydon Park, Marino (northside).

130 Operating via Seafield Road to Castle Avenue. Not serving Mount Prospect.

140 Limited service operating on route

142 Limited service operating on route

145 Operating to Woodbrook.
150 Terminating at Spawell Roundabout. Not serving Rossmore. Operating via South Circular Road and Crumlin Road.

151 Limited service operating on route

161 Operating from Dundrum and terminating at Scholarstown Road. Not serving Whitechurch Estate and Rockbrook.

184 Limited service operating on route

185 Operating to and from Enniskerry Village. Not serving Palermo.

220 Operating via Glasnevin Avenue. Not serving Poppintree.

236 Limited service operating on route

238 Operating via Snugboro Road, Ballycoolin Road and Blanchardstown Road North to Damastown. Not serving Corduff.

239 Not operating

270 Operating along N3 via Clonee to Dunboyne. Not serving Littlepace.

747 Limited service operating on route

757 Limited service operating on route
Tours Not Operating

Infini

Dublin Bus just announced theyre pulling all services for Thursday on twitter.

thomasj

I'd be expecting Irish rail to announce the same soon enough

thomasj

Hilly Bill wrote: »

How are we all coping this morning?

Irish rail staff playing a blinder this morning as usual in these conditions!

AlekSmart

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I'm thankful I don't have to go out as the dublin bus website doesn't seem to be working and I have no idea if the busses are running.

Perhaps there is a connectivity or cache issue at your end ?
The BAC website has been OK all morning here....latest update at 13:51 showing a list of routes and the current positions on each.

https://www.dublinbus.ie/News-Centre/General-News/Weather-Disruption-Limited-Service/

Addle

From YLYL

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057701673/583

n!ghtmancometh

AlekSmart wrote: »

Perhaps there is a connectivity or cache issue at your end ?
The BAC website has been OK all morning here....latest update at 13:51 showing a list of routes and the current positions on each.

https://www.dublinbus.ie/News-Centre/General-News/Weather-Disruption-Limited-Service/

RTPI was blank on the app at 7.30am this morning and website was down at lunchtime round 12:30ish when I was trying to figure out best way to get home from work, who thankfully let us go early. Probably down to so many folks trying to access it. DB Twitter probably best way of keeping up to date.

thomasj

So tomorrow there are no Dublin buses, Irish rail will be finished by 2pm as will luas.

Services will not resume until 12noon friday at the earliest.

magicbastarder

sounded to me that was a decision made for them by the national emergency committee folks.

Infini

I'll be honest they say nothing to 12.00 on Friday but lets be realistic if blizzard conditions persist nonstop from 8pm tomorrow till midday the next day it could easily dump enough snow to shut things down all of Friday and possibly Saturday.

That being said they should've just pulled everything including Luas and Rail and told everyone to just take the damn day off!

Addle wrote: »

From YLYL

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057701673/583

Ba-dum-tish!

devnull

Updated the disruption list here
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057846249

Latest updates are essentially:
- no Aircoach services after 2pm tomorrow until at least lunchtime on Friday
- no Bus Eireann services in Leinster and Munster Thursday or before 12pm on Friday
- Irish rail services start to shut down 12pm Thursday until at least 12pm Friday.
- No LUAS after 12pm Thursday
- No Dublin Bus or Swords Express tomorrow.

Fact everyone is shutting down at 12pm indeed seems to indicate that it was a decision taken by the NEC.

Stephen15

Will the bus lanes be open to cars tommorrow?