2018-2027 National Development Plan

Roadrunner99

Any update in the allocation of funding from the tii in the coming weeks?

marno21

Roadrunner99 wrote: »

Any update in the allocation of funding from the tii in the coming weeks?

None yet. Your guess is as good as mine as to when it will be published

Roadrunner99

marno21 wrote: »

None yet. Your guess is as good as mine as to when it will be published

Be interesting to see now which projects will be prioritised with the most funding.

marno21

Update in May 2018 from last post:

N5 Westport-Turlough:Now at tender stage. Late 2019 start expected
N6 Galway City Ring Road: Planning submission expected in June 2018. Lengthy planning process envisaged
M7 Naas/Newbridge bypass: Significant work done on widening between J9 and J10, with earthworks continuing on Sallins bypass
N8/N25/N40 Dunkettle Interchange: Tender award expected in June 2018. Prelim work to take place Q4 2018, with full start in Q1 2019
M11/N11 corridor Phase 1: Kilmacanogue SB: Work to begin as Part 8 by Wicklow County Council as soon as approved by councillors. Work to take 12 months
M20 Cork-Limerick: Tender for design/planning/route selection/EIS issued in May 2018, to be awarded in September 2018
M21 Adare-Rathkeale-Foynes: Finalised scheme design published May 2018, submission to ABP in late Q3 2018
N22 Macroom-Ballyvourney: Now at full tender stage, start in mid/late 2019 expected
M28 Cork-Ringaskiddy:Planning decision now delayed to July 2018
N52 Ardee bypass:Construction PIN for tender issued May 2018. Expected to start in Q4 2018
N59 Oughterard-Clifden: 5km stretch between Maam Cross and Bunnakill to start in 2019, tender PIN issued May 2018
N69 Listowel bypass:Tender for consultants to take this to completion issued May 2018. Now likely to start in late 2019

roadmaster

I found this map online of the potenial Virgina bypass. I wonder is this route still being considered

http://www.cavancoco.ie/file/development-plans/county-cavan/Development-Plan-Draft/Maps/Map%20Virginia%201.pdf

spacetweek

roadmaster wrote: »

I found this map online of the potenial Virgina bypass. I wonder is this route still being considered

http://www.cavancoco.ie/file/development-plans/county-cavan/Development-Plan-Draft/Maps/Map%20Virginia%201.pdf

Pity it doesn't show most of it.

marno21

spacetweek wrote: »

Pity it doesn't show most of it.

Route will likely be decided from scratch whenever the N3 scheme is progressed.

Hopefully they will progress the full N3 scheme through planning even if only the Virginia bypass part will be actually built before 2027, saving having to rip up some of it to integrate it into a more complete N3 scheme further down the road (this applies to all schemes being progressed).

May Contain Small Parts

huh, I was under the impression that the original boom-time plans ran south of lough ramour.

roadmaster

marno21 wrote: »

Route will likely be decided from scratch whenever the N3 scheme is progressed.

Hopefully they will progress the full N3 scheme through planning even if only the Virginia bypass part will be actually built before 2027, saving having to rip up some of it to integrate it into a more complete N3 scheme further down the road (this applies to all schemes being progressed).

Even if they only extended the Virginia Bypass to whitegate it would help. Its only 10 km away . The only question would they go Green field or Type 2 on the existing road. I know it would be very tight in places but it could be done

betistuc

Did you mean back to Whitegate ?( Suppose it depends on which way you're travelling) That's the little place at the end of the Kells /Carnaross bypass. That map btw is next to useless , just two blue lines running around the top of Virginia . No beginning or end.

Can anyone tell me what causes those tailbacks every evening going into Virginia. It was back past the big milk plant one day recently and I was at the very back. Is it those new traffic lights they installed recently or is it the pedestrian crossing in the middle of the villiage ?

roadmaster

betistuc wrote: »

Did you mean back to Whitegate ?( Suppose it depends on which way you're travelling) That's the little place at the end of the Kells /Carnaross bypass. That map btw is next to useless , just two blue lines running around the top of Virginia . No beginning or end.

Can anyone tell me what causes those tailbacks every evening going into Virginia. It was back past the big milk plant one day recently and I was at the very back. Is it those new traffic lights they installed recently or is it the pedestrian crossing in the middle of the villiage ?

Yip whitegate is the filling station just after where the dual carriageway ends. The traffic issues in virginia seam to be loads of small issues combined to one big one.

1. The Right turn for bailebourgh coming from dublin

2. The turn in the middle of the village for the secondary school

3. Its a working town so on street parking causes delays with the people pulling in and out

4. The pedestrain lights as you mentioned

5. The turn for ballyjamesduff, you have people turning hear for Aldi and supervalu

Then just the sheer volume of traffic

marno21

roadmaster wrote: »

Yip whitegate is the filling station just after where the dual carriageway ends. The traffic issues in virginia seam to be loads of small issues combined to one big one.

1. The Right turn for bailebourgh coming from dublin

2. The turn in the middle of the village for the secondary school

3. Its a working town so on street parking causes delays with the people pulling in and out

4. The pedestrain lights as you mentioned

5. The turn for ballyjamesduff, you have people turning hear for Aldi and supervalu

Then just the sheer volume of traffic

What it all boils down to is that it's the first bottleneck coming off a motorway/dual carraigeway. Same as Adare/Macroom etc.

marno21

Here's how the current queue is looking:

Phase 7 - Completion

Phase 6 - Construction
M7 Naas/Newbridge bypass upgrade [2019 completion]
M11 Gorey-Enniscorthy [mid 2019 completion]
N25 New Ross PPP [Q1 2019 completion]
N56 Mountcharles-Drumbeigh [Q2 2019 completion]
N56 Kilkenny-Letterilly [2019 completion]
N86 Camp-Ballygarret [July 2018 completion]
N86 Ballynasare-Lispole [July 2018 completion]

Phase 5 II - Tender
N4 Collooney-Castlebaldwin [2018 start]
N5 Westport-Turlough [late 2019 start]
N8/N25/N40 Dunkettle Interchange [Q4 2018 start]
N22 Macroom-Ballyvourney [2019 start]
N52 Ardee bypass [Q4 2018 start]
N59 Maam Cross-Bunnakill [2019 start]
N59 Kilmeena [2018 start]

Phase 5 - Advance works and land acquisition
N56 Drumbeigh-Inver [in queue; phased implementation]
N56 Letterilly-Kilrane [in queue; phased implementation]
N56 Dungloe-Cloghbolie [in queue; phased implementation]
N59 Moycullen bypass [ready to tender]
N59 Bunnakill-Oughterard [in queue; phased implementation]
N59 Derrada-Newport [in queue; phased implementation]
N69 Listowel bypass [tender out for consultants; tender expected 2018]
N86 Dingle-Lispole [in queue; phased implementation]
N86 Ballynasare-Annascaul [tender expected late 2018]
N86 Gortbreagoge-Doonore South [in queue; phased implementation]
N86 Doonore South-Ballygarret [tender expected late 2018]
N86 Camp-R560 [in queue; phased implementation]

Phase 4 - Statutory process
N5 Ballaghaderreen-Scramoge [decision due July 2018]
N6 Galway City Ring Road [submission to ABP due June 2018]
M28 Cork-Ringaskiddy [decision due July 2018]

Phase 3 - Design
M21 Adare-Rathkeale-Foynes [submission to ABP Q3 2018]

Phase 2 - Route selection
N2 Slane bypass [route selection ongoing]
N13/N56 Letterkenny Bypass + DC upgrade [route options published; preferred route published Q3 2018]
N14 Letterkenny-Lifford [route options published; preferred route published Q3 2018]
N15 Ballybofey/Stranorlar bypass [route options published; preferred route published Q3 2018]
M20 Cork-Limerick [tender for design & planning at tender stage]

Phase 1 - Feasibility study/project scope
N72 Mallow relief road [tender for design & planning due]
N2 Clontibret-NI Border [tender for Phase 1-4 out]
N2 Ardee-Castleblayney [tender for Phase 1-4 out]

Phase 0 - Awaiting activation [all have had no movement and remain suspended]
N2 Ashbourne-Kilmoon Cross
N3 Virginia bypass
N3 Clonee-M50
N4 Carrick on Shannon-Dromod
M4 Leixlip-Maynooth
N4 Mullingar-Longford
M11 M50-Kilmacanogue
N11/N25 Oilgate-Rosslare Harbour
N17 Knock-Tubbercurry-Collooney
N21 Abbeyfeale relief road
N21 Newcastlewest bypass
N22 Farranfore-Killarney
N24 Waterford-Cahir
N24 Cahir-Limerick Junction
N25 Waterford-Glenmore
N25 Carrigtwohill-Midleton
N52 Tullamore-Kilbeggan
M50 Dublin Port South Access Road

marno21

Over €500m worth of projects now at the tender stage. The future is looking bright at the minute, certainly a lot brighter than it was a few years ago.

Nidgeweasel

Great stuff as always Marno, thanks.

My eyes as ever remain fixed on the Virginia bypass.

May Contain Small Parts

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Great stuff as always Marno, thanks.

My eyes as ever remain fixed on the Virginia bypass.

Staring at one thing for 20 years sounds bad for your eyes.

Nidgeweasel

May Contain Small Parts wrote: »

Staring at one thing for 20 years sounds bad for your eyes.

It’s not ideal.

Roadrunner99

marno21 wrote: »

Over €500m worth of projects now at the tender stage. The future is looking bright at the minute, certainly a lot brighter than it was a few years ago.

Marno are all the projects with a start date of 2019 set in stone to begin construction then or could some be pushed back to 2020?

marno21

Roadrunner99 wrote: »

Marno are all the projects with a start date of 2019 set in stone to begin construction then or could some be pushed back to 2020?

I am waiting for the revised capital spending envelope for national road schemes from DPER after the publication of the capital spending plan, but I would be fairly confident about the 2019 starts. One or two may slip but these things happen.

Given that the Macroom bypass has been tendered already I would be confident of it starting in Q3 2019 or so. N4 scheme in Sligo is a similar sized scheme which went to tender late last year and is expected to be awarded in September.

nuac

Thanks Marno14 for all the information

Roadrunner99

marno21 wrote: »

I am waiting for the revised capital spending envelope for national road schemes from DPER after the publication of the capital spending plan, but I would be fairly confident about the 2019 starts. One or two may slip but these things happen.

Given that the Macroom bypass has been tendered already I would be confident of it starting in Q3 2019 or so. N4 scheme in Sligo is a similar sized scheme which went to tender late last year and is expected to be awarded in September.

Great to see macroom being brought forward a few months on the original 2020 start date. Just wondering once the tender has been awarded how long would it be before construction starts on site?

DumbBrunette

I think there's also three schemes on the N60 between Castlebar and Claremorris totalling 9km that are quite advanced... any update on those Marno?

marno21 wrote: »

Here's how the current queue is looking:

Phase 7 - Completion

Phase 6 - Construction
M7 Naas/Newbridge bypass upgrade [2019 completion]
M11 Gorey-Enniscorthy [mid 2019 completion]
N25 New Ross PPP [Q1 2019 completion]
N56 Mountcharles-Drumbeigh [Q2 2019 completion]
N56 Kilkenny-Letterilly [2019 completion]
N86 Camp-Ballygarret [July 2018 completion]
N86 Ballynasare-Lispole [July 2018 completion]

Phase 5 II - Tender
N4 Collooney-Castlebaldwin [2018 start]
N5 Westport-Turlough [late 2019 start]
N8/N25/N40 Dunkettle Interchange [Q4 2018 start]
N22 Macroom-Ballyvourney [2019 start]
N52 Ardee bypass [Q4 2018 start]
N59 Maam Cross-Bunnakill [2019 start]
N59 Kilmeena [2018 start]

Phase 5 - Advance works and land acquisition
N56 Drumbeigh-Inver [in queue; phased implementation]
N56 Letterilly-Kilrane [in queue; phased implementation]
N56 Dungloe-Cloghbolie [in queue; phased implementation]
N59 Moycullen bypass [ready to tender]
N59 Bunnakill-Oughterard [in queue; phased implementation]
N59 Derrada-Newport [in queue; phased implementation]
N69 Listowel bypass [tender out for consultants; tender expected 2018]
N86 Dingle-Lispole [in queue; phased implementation]
N86 Ballynasare-Annascaul [tender expected late 2018]
N86 Gortbreagoge-Doonore South [in queue; phased implementation]
N86 Doonore South-Ballygarret [tender expected late 2018]
N86 Camp-R560 [in queue; phased implementation]

Phase 4 - Statutory process
N5 Ballaghaderreen-Scramoge [decision due July 2018]
N6 Galway City Ring Road [submission to ABP due June 2018]
M28 Cork-Ringaskiddy [decision due July 2018]

Phase 3 - Design
M21 Adare-Rathkeale-Foynes [submission to ABP Q3 2018]

Phase 2 - Route selection
N2 Slane bypass [route selection ongoing]
N13/N56 Letterkenny Bypass + DC upgrade [route options published; preferred route published Q3 2018]
N14 Letterkenny-Lifford [route options published; preferred route published Q3 2018]
N15 Ballybofey/Stranorlar bypass [route options published; preferred route published Q3 2018]
M20 Cork-Limerick [tender for design & planning at tender stage]

Phase 1 - Feasibility study/project scope
N72 Mallow relief road [tender for design & planning due]
N2 Clontibret-NI Border [tender for Phase 1-4 out]
N2 Ardee-Castleblayney [tender for Phase 1-4 out]

Phase 0 - Awaiting activation [all have had no movement and remain suspended]
N2 Ashbourne-Kilmoon Cross
N3 Virginia bypass
N3 Clonee-M50
N4 Carrick on Shannon-Dromod
M4 Leixlip-Maynooth
N4 Mullingar-Longford
M11 M50-Kilmacanogue
N11/N25 Oilgate-Rosslare Harbour
N17 Knock-Tubbercurry-Collooney
N21 Abbeyfeale relief road
N21 Newcastlewest bypass
N22 Farranfore-Killarney
N24 Waterford-Cahir
N24 Cahir-Limerick Junction
N25 Waterford-Glenmore
N25 Carrigtwohill-Midleton
N52 Tullamore-Kilbeggan
M50 Dublin Port South Access Road

Chris_5339762

N25 Dungarvan bypass is missing from the suspended list. Would be nice to see that one advanced, Dungarvan isn't really jammed up but it is a pig of a town to get through, especially with fast S2 on either side of it.

marno21

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

N25 Dungarvan bypass is missing from the suspended list. Would be nice to see that one advanced, Dungarvan isn't really jammed up but it is a pig of a town to get through, especially with fast S2 on either side of it.

The list posted above are schemes that are funded in the NDP for pre appraisal and early planning. The Dungarvan bypass (and several others on the N25) are not part of this list. The only work potentially to be done on the N25 between now and 2027 is Carrigtwohill-Middleton, Waterford-Glenmore and Wexford-Rosslare along with the obvious New Ross bypass

Midleton-Youghal, Dungarvan and New Ross-Wexford remain in the freezer.

AugustusMinimus

A 2+2 upgrade to the Lemybrien - Waterford Bypass section would be a cheap and welcome upgrade.

marno21

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

A 2+2 upgrade to the Lemybrien - Waterford Bypass section would be a cheap and welcome upgrade.

IMO, TII will be examining 2+2 retrofitting properly soon. There are far too many fatalities caused by head on collisions on WS2 roads, and there is also a safety issue regarding dangerous overtaking on busy WS2s caused by third gear strollers on these roads.

2+2 retrofitting is a cheap win here. The NDP if implemented in full will also lead to some mid size WS2 sections in between long 2+2 stretches, e.g. Tuam-Knock, Castlebaldwin-Carrick, Castleisland-Abbeyfeale (if the Abbeyfeale-Rathkeale is 2+2'd instead of mickey mouse relief roads)

Aontachtoir

Just to add a bit of speculation into the mix, there were reports out during the week about plans being drawn up in Brussels to reconfigure the TEN-T to better link us to the Continent after Brexit. These proposed changes would reorientate Ireland's TEN-T network, so that instead of focusing on getting goods to Dublin and the east in general to take advantage of the British land bridge, goods would be sent south to Cork and Rosslare for shipping directly to the major North Sea ports like Rotterdam or Antwerp, completely bypassing Britain.

It's only a proposal at this stage, but one can imagine that if this comes to pass, large-scale upgrades to the N25, N24, and N11 would be required.

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/0614/970482-maritime-links/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/brussels-plans-new-sea-route-for-irish-freight-7qn2xjlh0

road_high

marno21 wrote: »

The list posted above are schemes that are funded in the NDP for pre appraisal and early planning. The Dungarvan bypass (and several others on the N25) are not part of this list. The only work potentially to be done on the N25 between now and 2027 is Carrigtwohill-Middleton, Waterford-Glenmore and Wexford-Rosslare along with the obvious New Ross bypass

Midleton-Youghal, Dungarvan and New Ross-Wexford remain in the freezer.

No real need to do much with N25 Wexford-New Ross. That has all been realigned, widened and upgraded considerably over the past 30 years. Junction upgrades and climbing lanes perhaps- there are far worse roads that need attention before it.

marno21

road_high wrote: »

No real need to do much with N25 Wexford-New Ross. That has all been realigned, widened and upgraded considerably over the past 30 years. Junction upgrades and climbing lanes perhaps- there are far worse roads that need attention before it.

NRA had a Wexford-New Ross scheme active around 2007/2008 but it hasn't moved since. You are right that it's not a priority at the minute.

The role of the N25 will likely change with Brexit and there may be changes to both road development policy and the TEN-T network as stated above as a result. The Midleton-Youghal, Dungarvan, Waterford-Glenmore and Wexford-Rosslare schemes need to be prioritised accordingly.

Chris_5339762

And, in my opinion, in order of urgency

1) Midleton - Youghal (Desperately needed)
2) Dungarvan
3) Waterford - Glenmore
4) Wexford - Rosslare