Operation Transformation

forumdedum

Was it 2 minutes in and someone was crying?

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121568475#Comment_121568475

The reason I hate watching it. They have gone way ott with the sob stories.

forumdedum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121568511#Comment_121568511

First time watching in years. It's such a cliche crying on TV programmes. And I'm far from not sensitive to people's feelings. It's just such a put on or dropped in early on the shows by the editors

forumdedum

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It's a TV thing. Snooze. Lack of imagination

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121568493#Comment_121568493

Thats right she's one of kellys I think. She has improved in fairness. Seems to be listening more and less egotistical than she was. I used to cringe at the sight of her parading herself in skimpy dresses and high heels beside the unfortunate barely clothed leaders .

HildaOgdenx

Watched late last night. A nice group of leaders, so will probably continue to watch.

Karl Henry grates on my nerves a bit, but I like the rest of them.

Sunny Dayz

I'm not sure yet how I feel about this year's series. The contestants seem nice but I'm not gravitating towards anyone in particular. Concerning that 4 of the 5 have underlying health conditions. Not disrespecting any of the contestants, but some of the profiles we see year in year out - the full time working mum who is trying to juggle it all and has lost herself; the man who is pre-diabetic/heart attack waiting to happen. On the one hand it says to me that there are a lot of people out there in that same boat, however it also makes me wonder if people watching the show in years past are taking anything from the show. It harps back then to something I've brought up most years is that the show is on for 2 months, is great at motivating both the leaders and followers, but once it's over, it seems to be all forgotten about. Best of luck to this year's leaders but I'm not sure if this show has any impact on its viewers.

GAAcailin

All a bit samey, 3 36/37 year olds and 2 56/57 year olds. An early 20 something would be good.

Way too much focus on Ashford Castle was irrelevant to the show, they were making out that she had some sort of celebrity job there too.

Can't stand KT, she is so smug; looks like she has had a bit of work done too.

think half the reason its so popular is the time of year, people are done going out and just bored so nothing else to watch.

Sunny Dayz

Yes I thought that too - someone in their early 20s would have been good. Whether it be someone who's carried weight from childhood, or someone who embraced the student life of cheap food, drink, drugs and now wants to grow up a bit. But people in their early 20s don't watch OT.

GAAcailin

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Yes totally agree. Or some late 20's/early 30's who are still living at home with their folks; People who can't really cook for themselves that easy and end up eating heated-up meals their Parents cooked earlier or eating out the whole time.

Or a couple that are staying with one or other set of parents while saving for a deposit for a house.

marilynrr

I actually love the crying and all of the realness 😂 I don't think I'd watch it if they weren't showing all of that stuff. But then I don't watch other reality TV so I'm not seeing it on other shows and getting sick of it.

I'm sure they lose some viewers by focusing on the trauma etc, but I think they'd lose more if they cut all of that out.

Something that niggles me is that they say it's 8 weeks, It's only 7 weeks long isn't it? because they start the plan on the 1st episode and then the results of the first week are seen in episode 2?

GAAcailin

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Say mixed - she probably did better than most and thats why she is back... The way she was able to channel her energy into the football I'd say helped.

I do know of one that did well on the show but piled on the lbs after.

HildaOgdenx

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There was a guy from Clondalkin on it some years ago. Twenties, and living at home. He did well on the show and seemed to do well afterwards. I randomly saw his name come up on social media, a while after, I forget where or why. No idea if he kept going, or not though.

It would be interesting to see how people do afterwards. There was a guard in the last few years who did really well, and I think he was featured afterwards promoting the programme. He kept the weight off, and kept up with the running, if I remember correctly.

HildaOgdenx

Was he the guy they gave out to for losing too much, or something?

GAAcailin

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I would speculate and generalise that men fare better in the long run - They just aren't as emotional about stuff. I think if they have volunteered to go on the show they are serious about getting in shape and changing their diet. My OH wanted to lose weight and get fit a few years ago - he went to a specialised gym and changed his eating habits; emotion just didn't come into it. Have seen many of my female friends and house-share buddies on a rollercoaster with diets and fitness.

Princess Calla

I think it really comes down to "why" you've gained the weight.

Alot of guys I know put on weight after they stopped doing their exercise of choice, 5 aside etc. Either through an injury or life getting in the way. Added to the fact metabolism slowing down and weekend pints not shifting, longer hours in work then maybe late night snacking etc.

Some of the girls I know who have put on weight has been similar story with maybe a baby or two added to the mix. Unable to shift the baby weight, hard to prioritise the time to get out and active....maybe grazing through the day on whatever food the kids are eating etc.

These are the people any weight lose regime will help as "all" they really need is someone to reset them. Someone to advise what exercise won't trigger old injuries etc.

If you already had an athletic core at one point in your life the weight does seem to fall off easier.

However if the reason for gaining weight is you've always been on the heavy side....genetics or poor diet growing up it's so much harder to remove those layers of adipose tissue as it's all the body has ever known .

Then if the reason for weight gain is food is used as a comfort ....no weightloss regime will work long-term until the reason (emotional reason) for this is addressed. New coping mechanisms for whatever triggers emotional eating need to be found. Only then will a weight loss programme work.

That's my unqualified opinion anyway.

Princess Calla

I think it really comes down to "why" you've gained the weight.

Alot of guys I know put on weight after they stopped doing their exercise of choice, 5 aside etc. Either through an injury or life getting in the way. Added to the fact metabolism slowing down and weekend pints not shifting, longer hours in work then maybe late night snacking etc.

Some of the girls I know who have put on weight has been similar story with maybe a baby or two added to the mix. Unable to shift the baby weight, hard to prioritise the time to get out and active....maybe grazing through the day on whatever food the kids are eating etc.

These are the people any weight lose regime will help as "all" they really need is someone to reset them. Someone to advise what exercise won't trigger old injuries etc.

If you already had an athletic core at one point in your life the weight does seem to fall off easier.

However if the reason for gaining weight is you've always been on the heavy side....genetics or poor diet growing up it's so much harder to remove those layers of adipose tissue as it's all the body has ever known .

Then if the reason for weight gain is food is used as a comfort ....no weightloss regime will work long-term until the reason (emotional reason) for this is addressed. New coping mechanisms for whatever triggers emotional eating need to be found. Only then will a weight loss programme work.

That's my unqualified opinion anyway.

HildaOgdenx

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Oh yes. I remember feeling sorry for him because he was all delighted about the running going so well for him, and then being deflated by their feedback.

marilynrr

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I think men fare better generally but I wouldn't say it's to do with being less emotional.

Losing weight is harder for women in general, hormones being one huge reason.

There's plenty of women out there like your OH too who just get straight into it!

Princess Calla

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Hormones and water retention are big issues for women losing weight.

Sunny Dayz

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David Cryan is the guard. Ya I follow him on social media. He got transferred closer to home, into doing parkruns and involved in GAA. Met him at a parkun, lovely fella.

I felt sorry for the Andrew Burke lad when they were telling him to ease up on the running and weight loss - but I'd say he could have been a fella who goes out like a hare from the traps at whatever he does and then burns out and drops things shortly after. From what I can recall he got back into the baton twirling stuff. And after that OT start their whole "do what you love" thing.

Katie Jones from I think 3 years ago is still doing a bit of running and is still loosing weight from looking at her most recent grid post. Stefano Sweetman (midlands Italian hairdresser) has kept the weight off but not sure what he's doing, just seems to post before and after shots with some motivational quote.

A good number of years ago a fella from my local town did it. The whole town got behind him, he lost the bit of weight and then not long after the show was over he stopped. I saw him a couple of years ago and he must be heavier than when he went on OT.

That's why I think the show should do regular check ins with the contestants throughout the year, surely they'd get enough footage for a 1 hour show once a month or once a quarter. I do like how the show motivates people to get up and move and to eat a bit better. But "transform" peoples' lives and health - I'm not really seeing that.

HildaOgdenx

I remember a lovely guy from Donegal, he worked as a paramedic, I wonder if he kept going on the healthy journey.

Karl Henry told him every single week that he was the heaviest contestant they had ever had. Once was enough to say it, that's if it needed to be said in the first place.

Princess Calla

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Yeah I think she thought the show was saying her food/cooking wasn't good enough. I think she was cooking polish food for herself and daughter, which is fair enough as that's what she knows and didn't really want to learn or alter their eating habits to cater for "Irish" recipes.

I think the dietitian worked with her for polish alternatives.

She did come across a bit gruff but I'd put that down to clash of cultures than anything else.

He was a lovely guy, all his colleagues seemed to love him.

GAAcailin

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Remember her alright, the Polish partner, think the dietician went to visit them too. She did seem quite 'stand offish' but like other poster said - could be a culture thing