Operation Transformation

farmingquestion

Not the best leader, she doesn't talk.

Xander10

Just watching this on plus. God, Thomas's fakeness is a hard watch. The programme needs binning or a complete meaningful overhaul

Ragwort and Stones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120277311#Comment_120277311

You know a teacher, who doesn't. The time off isn't always 'off' when you're a principal. There's a lot of admin and the amount of events activities a school is involved in is growing every year. Parents are more demanding. It's intense. Any job is stressful if the individual puts everything into their job and is a perfectionist too.

They're off so much is kinda trite. Taking farming, there's a fella on here from Dublin who wants to buy land and farm for the peace!! Talking about how enjoyable it would be feeding cattle!! Saying you know people involved and you know what's involved in a job you never did is untrue. Lots of people know farmers, do they really know the stresses in it..

farmingquestion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278052#Comment_120278052

Compared to a high pressure environment in Dublin, farming could well be less stressful and enjoyable.

You're your own boss, you make the decisions. If you're farming full time you're not going to be under massive time pressures either.

Farming is stressful due to the lack of money. If you have money already then farming is a nice lifestyle.

farmingquestion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120277493#Comment_120277493

The way she announces the weight loss annoys me. Same tone every time. "that gives you a total weightloss of twenty five poUNNNNDDDSSSSS"

She repeated "YOU ARE A VISION" aswell for 2 participants. Whatever the fcuk that means!

Ragwort and Stones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278132#Comment_120278132

You're definitely not a farmer given what you neglect to mention as stresses! I won't go into it.

It's all about the individual though, what stresses them, what they put into the job etc. Writing off a school principal's job as easy from the sofa at 10pm, not knowing the person involved or never haven worked at the job defies logic. That lady put everything into the job.

Deeec

I watched it last night. All done well but the stylist managed to make them all look terrible.

None of the ladies outfits flattered them at all! In fact the outfits made them look bigger than what they are.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278140#Comment_120278140

I lasted half the show..had to tune out

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278172#Comment_120278172

Agree on stylist. Saw first 3 and all looked to have been given poor choices of outfit, particularly the first girl's outfit. Your man looked like he dusted off his old Bay City Roller jacket from his wardrobe.

farmingquestion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278162#Comment_120278162

I'm from a farm so yes, I know what's involved.

There's people who work from 8am - 5pm and travel 1 hour + in a car commute who only have 20 days holidays a year.

One of the "problems" this principal had was a sub teacher was sick. Easy solution, print off some work from a workbook and give it to the students and have other teachers/principal check in on them throughout the day, just like what happened when I was in school. Easy.

Ragwort and Stones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278435#Comment_120278435

'There's people who work from 8am - 5pm and travel 1 hour + in a car commute who only have 20 days holidays a year.' And have fcuk all responsibility and punch in time all day. Not saying all are like this but a huge amount aren't managers. There's a difference when the book stops with you.

It's like this. In a bacon and egg breakfast, what's the difference between the chicken and the pig? Answer: The chicken is involved, but the pig is committed.

What type of farming, are you a son of a farmer or have you farmed full time? You don't strike me as a fella who's calving cows at 3am in an upland area in February. Has BVD or pneumonia spreading through his calves and sorting medicine at all hour, under pressure with weather to get silage or wraps done, has to handle or dose contrary continental cattle, lost Sundays with water frozen etc. You seem to think your average Dublin lad could come down and farm for relaxation. Has rising expenses for feed, fertiliser, silage making and yet the factories are taking a massive cut out of your earnings.

I'm out of work and able to type on here as I've broken ribs and a broken tibia after a cow a Charolais cow attacked me after calving last week.

Maybe that was done when you were in school but a lot of parents wouldn't settle for this now and would call for a Board of Management meeting to get a replacement teacher in as soon as possible.

farmingquestion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278491#Comment_120278491

Most farmers work off farm, which tells you about farming. I know about all the realities of farming.

You can talk about calving at 3am or breaking freezing water troughs but at the end of the day, the vast majority of time there are no problems to be solved. you might be up at 3am but you'll also have days where nothing happens.

Yeah, with farming you might not get to decide when certain jobs need to be done but farming is a lifestyle.

This principal decided to turn the work phone off at 5pm. I'd like to see a senior engineer turn his work phone off and then have a CEO try contact him when electricity to the factory gets cut. They wouldn't last too long unlike a principal who can't get sacked.

Ragwort and Stones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278577#Comment_120278577

You're very judgemental about the principal. There are a lot of head wrecking little things in her job which add up. Senior engineers aren't the be all and end all either. You've an unconscious bias it seems.

You don't sound like you're overly familiar with full time farming to me. Every job has it's stresses. That idea of photocopying work and leaving it with primary school kids and teachers checking in on them doesn't cut the mustard these days. It's not like they are later years secondary school or college. It was clear to see that Wexford lady lived her job, put everything into it and is high functioning. Putting down someone's job like that or situation is senseless. She wouldn't be on the programme if she wasn't under pressure. Talk is cheap.

Muahahaha

Watched the finale of this last night having not watched the series bar one episode at the start. It feels like a very tired and battered format at this stage but RTE are flogging a dead horse. And what was up with the place where they did weigh ins, it looks like a cheap and tacky temporary studio or something. Almost like the production company know its for the chop and are saving costs to eek out the very last bit of profit from their contract.

digzy2

a debate about farming…on a reality tv thread…only on boards🙈

rovers_runner

Obese journalist in move away from the scales shocker.

This chancer would do away with the very core concepts of the show in order to not shame the pudding eaters.

https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/television/operation-transformation-its-great-that-rte-got-rid-of-fatphobia-but-shows-makers-are-still-missing-a-trick-42357007.html

farmingquestion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120283252#Comment_120283252

What a dope.

The weight loss is the only thing I care about.

Acknowledging someone who is obese is obese is not fat shaming. Seeing the before/after pictures is the best thing!

road_high

I find the move away from Weight loss ridiculous- it’s a medical and scientific fact that obesity is dangerous and the root of so many medical issues- so why not face it head on? We all need reality and home truths from time to time- what you NEED to hear vs what you want to hear

Birdsong

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120278172#Comment_120278172

Agree 100% on the styling, it did nothing for them especially the school principal.

I also felt that the school principal had no boundaries, and if she learned nothing else that's key

Sunny Dayz

I zoned out of OT this year. It is good for the participants that the focus has moved away from loosing as much weight as possible to making health changes to their lives and I do hope they continue to work at it and become healthier and happier. It just doesn't make for interesting television.

I noticed that they all really seemed to struggle with the 5km, they all seemed quite unfit after the 6 weeks of OT, and many of them looked like they hated it. I take it they don't go out walking regularly as part of the OT plan anymore. But what I did notice was a few of the previous years' contestants taking part and doing reasonably well at the 5km and maybe that's the new direction of the show - these ones did it last year or the year before and look better and could run the 5km no problem, they are maintaining this lifestyle.

Mantis Toboggan

Yeah I'd probably watch a show where they get 5 obese people and put them through the couch to 5K programme.

JP Liz V1

Mary Diamond dies, aged 57

RIP

sporina

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120485128#Comment_120485128

awe RIP

Eibhir

Hard to believe we're on to Season 17!! Started Jan 2008.

Eibhir

Little DS boy has come through a lot. And smiling.

Eibhir

Karl Henry says he was a front row 😂 That must have been some pack..

Eibhir

They have a good mix this year, all likeable and varied issues.

Eibhir

That woman with the 2 replacement hips has aged way beyond 55, it's scary.

When you lose mobility... movement is life.

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121568399#Comment_121568399

I agree. And less obese people. I often thought the more overweight contestants were often very vulnerable and sometimes exploited.

A element of tonight's show irritated me though - the piece on the castlebar lady was almost exclusively located at Ashford Castle where she works. KT was breathlessly praising the place and made sure to mention the name Ashford Castle again later in the show. Felt like product placement - Free weekend stays for KT? Would have thought some coverage would have been given to where the lady actually lived.

forumdedum

Was it 2 minutes in and someone was crying?