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Operation Transformation

  • 10-01-2018 9:47am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭tringle


    Is there a thread on this yet

    RTE1 Tuesday and Wednesday 8:30pm

    Did anyone watch this last night?
    I see the supermarkets already are advertising the shopping lists to go with the food plans.

    We have met the first three leaders and two more tonight. No one totally huge yet.

    I'm a bit annoyed that the default weight they give is in stones and pounds rather than kilos. Also I would like to see a BMI as they tell us the weight and the planned loss but we don't actually see how overweight someone actually is.
    Hoping to follow it this year and find a leader similar to me. Brave people putting themselves forward like that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    You do know it's just for ratings with all the sob stories which seem to be more important to the producers than losing weight. The over priced meals are just another gimmick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    I have watched this on and off and I generally have time for Kathryn Thomas but tonight was the last night of the series - I never heard any presenter to screech asmuch as Kathryn did tonight! Must be the hormones!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,017 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    After a topsy-turvy 12 months which saw the host, like everyone else, adapt to working from home while juggling parenting duties and dodging the biscuit press, now Kathryn is back in familiar territory with the return of Operation Transformation to RTÉ One next Wednesday, January 6, albeit with a few Covid-proof tweaks.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/healthandwellbeing/arid-40196088.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭happyday


    There doesn't seem to be a thread for 2021 yet.

    There was a lot of crying on the new show. I had it recorded. They seem like a good bunch of leaders.

    Anyone going to give it a go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    Gotta have the normal ones , a gay and a black these days...just sayin...:P

    Don't fancy I'll watch this year...very uninteresting people.....:o:o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    I do like that they have someone on this year who doesn't have much weight to lose. It's often the case that the less weight you have to lose the harder it is to lose it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    happyday wrote: »
    There doesn't seem to be a thread for 2021 yet.

    There was a lot of crying on the new show. I had it recorded. They seem like a good bunch of leaders.

    Anyone going to give it a go?

    I'm going to watch it but I won't be exercising or dieting :)

    I can't remember the names but I'd say the clondalkin lad will be leading alot of people , trying to shift that stubborn stone.

    No one is overly big like in other series.

    The Nigerian lady will be interesting as I think they are genetically predisposed to weight gain.

    Anyway I wish them luck, they all seemed lovely and to actually want to lose the weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    There's often chat in social media about body positivity and "fat shaming", especially when it comes to anything weight related, fitness and Operation Transformation.
    I think Susuana seems like a lovely confident bubbly person, she loves her looks. But her weight and lack of fitness is causing her health problems and that is not good. That's the issue I have with the so called "bo-po" (body positivity) movement - it refuses to acknowledge that being overweight can and does cause health issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    I'm going to watch it but I won't be exercising or dieting :)

    I can't remember the names but I'd say the clondalkin lad will be leading alot of people , trying to shift that stubborn stone.

    No one is overly big like in other series.

    The Nigerian lady will be interesting as I think they are genetically predisposed to weight gain.

    Anyway I wish them luck, they all seemed lovely and to actually want to lose the weight.

    Ah here, theres 2 women a few pounds either side of 20 stone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Sam Hain wrote: »
    Ah here, theres 2 women a few pounds either side of 20 stone.

    Might give it a go. The diets and exercise are just common sense dressed up as expert advice, but I'm interested to see how people get on.
    I thought Karl was a real dick to lad in the first show basically saying he was too much of a joker.
    The guy was probably nervous as hell and doing his best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Sam Hain wrote: »
    Ah here, theres 2 women a few pounds either side of 20 stone.

    True what I meant was more there's no one 25+ stone like in other series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Sunny Dayz wrote: »
    There's often chat in social media about body positivity and "fat shaming", especially when it comes to anything weight related, fitness and Operation Transformation.
    I think Susuana seems like a lovely confident bubbly person, she loves her looks. But her weight and lack of fitness is causing her health problems and that is not good. That's the issue I have with the so called "bo-po" (body positivity) movement - it refuses to acknowledge that being overweight can and does cause health issues.

    The "problem" with her is she comes from a culture that celebrates large ladies , so for her she's kinda going against her upbringing.

    She acknowledged herself that the weight was causing issues.

    But I agree with what you are saying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭6o9fv7jpreb180


    Good luck to all the contestants.. will try to follow it

    On a side note, I'd love to see "fitness expert" Karl Henry put through his paces.. cant imagine him doing a very competitive 5k time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    On a side note, I'd love to see "fitness expert" Karl Henry put through his paces.. cant imagine him doing a very competitive 5k time.
    AFAIK he cycles on gozwift and runs up to marathon distance. But I think he's more recreational rather than competitive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Good luck to all the contestants.. will try to follow it

    On a side note, I'd love to see "fitness expert" Karl Henry put through his paces.. cant imagine him doing a very competitive 5k time.
    Sunny Dayz wrote: »
    AFAIK he cycles on gozwift and runs up to marathon distance. But I think he's more recreational rather than competitive.

    He's actually fat. I don't know how he's got this gig when there's no shortage of other fitness experts out there who actually practice what they preach.
    He gets a lot of corporate gigs as well. It's so lazy by those that hire him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭jackboy


    joe40 wrote: »
    I thought Karl was a real dick to lad in the first show basically saying he was too much of a joker.
    The guy was probably nervous as hell and doing his best.

    That was a bit strange alright. I suppose they are expected to be emotional wrecks for the camera during the first weigh in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Good luck to all the contestants.. will try to follow it

    On a side note, I'd love to see "fitness expert" Karl Henry put through his paces.. cant imagine him doing a very competitive 5k time.

    He seems to have very chubby legs. Doubt he can run far.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I have it recorded, didn't get around to watching just yet. I will fast forward Karl Henry every time he appears. It made the show more enjoyable for me, last time around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭world class wreckin’ cru


    I wish Karl would put on a pair of tracksuit bottoms once in a while. I think he's dreadful for this show. He doesn't look in any kind of shape that people should be taking advice from him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I have it recorded, didn't get around to watching just yet. I will fast forward Karl Henry every time he appears. It made the show more enjoyable for me, last time around.

    I tend to do that for most of them waffling. Half the time it's just a time filling exercise to stretch the show out.

    I'm only interested in the contestant themselves and how they are getting on.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I tend to do that for most of them waffling. Half the time it's just a time filling exercise to stretch the show out.

    I'm only interested in the contestant themselves and how they are getting on.

    Yes. That's true.

    I find fast forwarding Aoife as well very useful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    He's actually fat. I don't know how he's got this gig when there's no shortage of other fitness experts out there who actually practice what they preach.
    He gets a lot of corporate gigs as well. It's so lazy by those that hire him

    His old man was the Eddie Murphy role in the first few series, and if people think Eddie is a spoofer... he was the king of spoofers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭timeToLive


    Good luck to all the contestants.. will try to follow it

    On a side note, I'd love to see "fitness expert" Karl Henry put through his paces.. cant imagine him doing a very competitive 5k time.


    He's there for his expertise, not his speed in a foot race :rolleyes::pac:


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    mloc123 wrote: »
    His old man was the Eddie Murphy role in the first few series, and if people think Eddie is a spoofer... he was the king of spoofers.

    I like Eddie, and Dr Sumi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    timeToLive wrote: »
    He's there for his expertise, not his speed in a foot race :rolleyes::pac:

    For people that are totally inactive like the contestants an 8 week walking regime would probably be best until a bit of fitness his built.
    I'm far from an expert but his advice is all very generic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭timeToLive


    joe40 wrote: »
    For people that are totally inactive like the contestants an 8 week walking regime would probably be best until a bit of fitness his built.
    I'm far from an expert but his advice is all very generic.


    Well I agree walking could be better than running but there's nothing wrong with introducing resistance training. The show is about losing weight - which can be done without the exercise - but also about overall well-being.


    You're far from an expert? Then that is why you're not on the show ;) Nothing wrong with the advice being generic if it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    joe40 wrote: »
    For people that are totally inactive like the contestants an 8 week walking regime would probably be best until a bit of fitness his built.
    I'm far from an expert but his advice is all very generic.

    Agreed. It should be about forming good healthy habits, getting them out the door for walks would be more manageable and less daunting. One contestant each year seems to pick up an injury during the program. Walking is an effective form of exercise at a brisk pace. As someone who's been running a number of years, I enjoy a good walk - it's easier to get out the door for one, easier to fit it into your daily routine and a lovely little buzz of endorphins after. I also remember how difficult it was to start running and do the C25K program and I was young and not overweight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    Its "reality tv"..no-one wants to see people walking....unless they trip..:P...

    Reminds me of Hoarders the other night (wifey likes it:rolleyes:) and there was a woman (as usual) talking, she had a messy divorce, she didnt want to talk about she said...the camera stayed on her face for at least 20 seconds while the host badgered her as to why ....she eventually broke....thats what people want....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,645 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    If anyone cut out the spoonfuls of sugar, and did nothing else, they'd lose weight.
    What I'm noticing this year, is some spouses and some children have weight issues too.

    Fair play to the man who lost 10 stone since last year, probably more than any participant has ever lost on this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    joe40 wrote: »
    For people that are totally inactive like the contestants an 8 week walking regime would probably be best until a bit of fitness his built.
    I'm far from an expert but his advice is all very generic.

    Exactly. Many are too heavy to run and just do joint damage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    So clueless about the sugar. It's amazing after 15 years of sugar bloats in the media, you have some who haven't heard the message.

    A tablespoon of Mayo :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Paul won't stay the course, the way he talked about the bacon sandwich, his mouth was watering! He seems too laid back to me for the long haul. Nice fella though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Icsics


    Someone should tell KT to stop the whooping & shouting, she’s really unbearable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Love the style Susannah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,946 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    No way will susanah stick the course. Calling it now

    Not sure I like the way the show is taking the p1ss out of her in a sneaky way


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    You probably need more clothes in the frost Susannah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Quote of the past 14 series!

    On her food 'It's like when you have sex and you're satisfied but don't have orgasm'. Lol!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭LilacNails


    She's not a great contestant for this kind of show...... Or any show where u must try hard!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    LilacNails wrote: »
    She's not a great contestant for this kind of show...... Or any show where u must try hard!

    Nice lady. But like Paul, fair and easy going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    A pushup is the hardest thing in the world for contestants.

    a) they have well above average weight to lift with their bodies.

    b) their muscle mass is very low in comparison to body fat.

    The person just falls flat. Maybe leave pushups until some weight is gone, muscle added.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭jules86


    Karl has their garden ruined ��


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Bullies.. hope they're watching. Nothing becomes of the school bully generally. Hard for him to watch that on tv.

    Good work Andrew.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    She was looking head up and didn't see the ice. Bad when you fall totally unaware.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    They seem like a lovely family, the Limerick lady.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Very supportive family there in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,645 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    Arduach wrote: »
    They seem like a lovely family, the Limerick lady.
    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Very supportive family there in fairness

    I'd imagine it's so much easier with a supportive family.
    Cooking healthily for everyone, not just for the contestant helps too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Cole


    I don't usually watch this and won't be watching again after the bit I saw...but each to their own.

    Is it always the case that the (overweight/obese) fellas have to stand there in their shorts in front of everyone while being quizzed etc.? Just seems completely unnecessary and potentially very embarrassing/demeaning for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Cole wrote: »
    I don't usually watch this and won't be watching again after the bit I saw...but each to their own.

    Is it always the case that the (overweight/obese) fellas have to stand there in their shorts in front of everyone while being quizzed etc.? Just seems completely unnecessary and potentially very embarrassing/demeaning for them.

    Every single year this type of comment is made.

    They are leaders so the idea is to show their body type so people with similar body type will follow them.... probably more "important" in women as they've more varied body types ....pear, apple ,straight etc.

    It also shows the change in body shape each week.

    If they stood there in a perfectly tailored suit it would hide a multitude.

    Similarly if the stood there in oversized clothes people would be saying it's a scam, they are not as heavy as they are saying they are etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Cole


    Every single year this type of comment is made.

    They are leaders so the idea is to show their body type so people with similar body type will follow them.... probably more "important" in women as they've more varied body types ....pear, apple ,straight etc.

    It also shows the change in body shape each week.

    If they stood there in a perfectly tailored suit it would hide a multitude.

    Similarly if the stood there in oversized clothes people would be saying it's a scam, they are not as heavy as they are saying they are etc.

    Ah now in fairness, I don't think anyone is suggesting they would walk out in a suit or a baggy jumper. I think viewers already get a good idea/view of their body types. I can't see why they can't just stick a robe on after their weigh-in while they're standing there answering questions.

    Anyway, having to spend time with Kathryn Thomas and Ray D'Arsey on the radio is embarrassing enough, so the weigh-in is probably a relief.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭nightie


    Seeing the guy (Conor, I think) who lost 10 stone in the last year was one of my favourite parts of tonight’s programme. The clip they showed of him doing the run last year really illustrates his journey. Hope they show more of these inspirational stories.


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