Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

Professor Moriarty · 03-01-2018 3:25pm

kaymin wrote: »

Not aware that information is available to the public. At a guess it may be because he claimed to be a Syrian refugee but is in fact Egyptian.

At the very least I expect the DoJ to have screened him before allowing him in and to have taken account of the reasons why he was refused refugee status in the UK.

So there's no information as to whether or not he entered Ireland legally? If it was legally, I'd be very interested as to why he was refused entry into the UK and allowed into Ireland.

pilly · 03-01-2018 3:25pm

Pac1Man wrote: »

If I hear of a Muslim man commit a murder in a western country, my interest is immediately piqued because of the hard evidence over the last 5-10 years suggest it could be a terrorist act. Don't be so naive.

So the police have stated the attacker was a muslim have they?

conorhal · 03-01-2018 3:25pm

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Maybe he came in through England and NI....then the DoJ has nothing to do with it.

Unless of course you want a closed border again.

It appears he's asylum claim was rejected in the UK.

Personally I favour a hard border post brexit, the majority of asylum seekers we get here enter via ferries from the UK and come across the border, large numbers of Pakistani and Africans who have failed in the UK. This needs to be stopped and border checks are the only solution.

Irishmale0399 · 03-01-2018 3:25pm

kaymin wrote: »

An Egyptian travelling to Ireland from UK does not currently have freedom of travel especially if he has been refused refugee status in the UK. You are being hysterical if you think exercising existing border controls for such persons amounts to a closed border.

Anyone can get on a boat and travel from mainland UK to NI without too many checks if any. Then they can get on the bus and come down the road without any problems at all...

Only way he could have been checked/prevented from entering the republic would be if the old border was in place. Something I am strongly against....

Only way you can prevent these people getting so far is to secure the EUs eastern borders and to make sure the likes of Merkel and co put an end to there every one is welcome politic.

testaccount123 · 03-01-2018 3:26pm

conorhal wrote: »

It appears he's asylum claim was rejected in the UK.

Whats your source on this?

Odhinn · 03-01-2018 3:26pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Where are we getting the "refused refugee status in the UK" from?

\Have it here
https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0103/930792-dundalk-death/

DEFTLEFTHAND · 03-01-2018 3:26pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

you mean if he'd fecked off back to his own country???...................................

Poor fella is dead

He's referring to Japan's strict immigration policy.

Corcaigh84 · 03-01-2018 3:27pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

you mean if he'd fecked off back to his own country???...................................

Poor fella is dead

Not at all what my point was. The guy must have thought Ireland is a similar first world country with sensible immigration laws - for example if you are from a country that exports terrorists, usually of the Muslim kind, you should be profiled and more extensively vetted than those from other countries.

It's not that hard a concept to grasp. But that's rayyycist apparently.

kaymin · 03-01-2018 3:27pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So there's no information as to whether or not he entered Ireland legally? If it was legally, I'd be very interested as to why he was refused entry into the UK and allowed into Ireland.

Agreed. No matter what the DoJ have much to answer for.

conorhal · 03-01-2018 3:27pm

pilly wrote: »

So the police have stated the attacker was a muslim have they?

Well he is Egyptian, so I guess you can cross your fingers and hope he's not part of the 90% of their Muslim population I guess, but something tells me you wouldn't be putting money on it.

Topgear on Dave · 03-01-2018 3:28pm

conorhal wrote: »

It appears he's asylum claim was rejected in the UK.

Personally I favour a hard border post brexit, the majority of asylum seekers we get here enter via ferries from the UK and come across the border, large numbers of Pakistani and Africans who have failed in the UK. This needs to be stopped and border checks are the only solution.

And for those of us who have to live beside the border what do you suggest?

Hard border doesnt work (too long, too many crossings, too divisive to communities) and is an incredibly dumb idea.

Professor Moriarty · 03-01-2018 3:28pm

kaymin wrote: »

Agreed. No matter what the DoJ have much to answer for.

In the context of this murder, what do the DoJ have to answer for?

Grayson · 03-01-2018 3:29pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

Does anyone remember the halcyon days when the 'fugees were only filling us softly, with their songs the IRA were the only people killing people in Dundalk.

That's what I thought you were going to say.

Jobs OXO · 03-01-2018 3:29pm

Precautions need to be taken in case of vehicular attacks. That'll be next and much higher casualties will result.

RocketRaccoon · 03-01-2018 3:29pm

I'm convinced that some posters on here won't admit there's a problem brewing here in Ireland until someone takes an articulated lorry and drives it the length of grafton St mowing people down.

testaccount123 · 03-01-2018 3:30pm

Odhinn wrote: »

\Have it here
https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0103/930792-dundalk-death/

Christ, what a (totally unsurprising) disaster

inforfun · 03-01-2018 3:31pm

Fernando Flat Silkworm wrote: »

Yeah I didn't do that though

You blame him for radicalisation, dont you? He is the red cloth, isnt he?
Because that is only happening since January 18th 2017

Just stop shoehorning Trump into each and every discussion to take the focus of the people who are really responsible for this ****.

Will I Am Not · 03-01-2018 3:32pm

Grayson wrote: »

That's what I thought you were going to say.

There we have it. Who had the IRA? Cross it off and wait for the peanut allergy and you could win big.

Donald Trump · 03-01-2018 3:32pm

Grayson wrote: »

That's what I thought you were going to say.

Feck. I had a typo. "killing us softly"

"filling us softly" might be misinterpreted as sexy time

I'm with Patrick Guinness on the filling, softly or otherwise - however you'd like it ma'am - of sexy 20 something Syrian ladies

deco nate · 03-01-2018 3:32pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Was that person ever caught?

Yes, a 15 yo headcase

kaymin · 03-01-2018 3:33pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

In the context of this murder, what do the DoJ have to answer for?

The DoJ are in control of our borders. They allowed this person into our country. If they didn't do that then this murder would not have happened. Is that clear enough?

Lux23 · 03-01-2018 3:33pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I'm convinced that some posters on here won't admit there's a problem brewing here in Ireland until someone takes an articulated lorry and drives it the length of grafton St mowing people down.

Oh, there is a problem across Europe and beyond but it won't be solved by closing borders or banning Islam. Or posting bigotted comments on a message board.

kilkenny31 · 03-01-2018 3:34pm

Foreign Media Starting to Pick it up.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/stabbing-attack-dundalk-ireland-leaves-1-dead-others-injured-n834226

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/01/03/ireland-stabbing-iron-bar-attack-investigated-as-possibly-terror-related.html

Donald Trump · 03-01-2018 3:34pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I'm convinced that some posters on here won't admit there's a problem brewing here in Ireland until someone takes an articulated lorry and drives it the length of grafton St mowing people down.

Sure they can't - isn't there loads of "no turn right" signs now onto Dame St to get around the front of Trinity?

conorhal · 03-01-2018 3:34pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I'm convinced that some posters on here won't admit there's a problem brewing here in Ireland until someone takes an articulated lorry and drives it the length of grafton St mowing people down.

I wouldn't be so sure, they'e had the 'trucks of peace' rolling through France, Sweden, Germany and the UK all in the last year and instead of a policy change you get told 'ah sure that's just the new normal now'.

Lux23 · 03-01-2018 3:36pm

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Foreign Media Starting to Pick it up.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/stabbing-attack-dundalk-ireland-leaves-1-dead-others-injured-n834226

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/01/03/ireland-stabbing-iron-bar-attack-investigated-as-possibly-terror-related.html

Silly. Did they cover the other stabbings we have every day of the fecking week?

03-01-2018 3:36pm

Trump could be about to tweet about Dundalk. Have to say I never thought I'd see it.

conorhal · 03-01-2018 3:36pm

Lux23 wrote: »

Oh, there is a problem across Europe and beyond but it won't be solved by closing borders or banning Islam. Or posting bigotted comments on a message board.

It won't? Tell it to the Pole's, Hungarian's and Czech's so. 'Walls don't work' they say, except where they actually work it seems.

03-01-2018 3:37pm

Lux23 wrote: »

Silly. Did they cover the other stabbings we have every day of the fecking week?

:rolleyes:

pilly · 03-01-2018 3:37pm

conorhal wrote: »

Well he is Egyptian, so I guess you can cross your fingers and hope he's not part of the 90% of their Muslim population I guess, but something tells me you wouldn't be putting money on it.

He was Syrian an hour ago, so in other words we know nothing.

Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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