Formuler F1 Twin Satellite Tuner plus hdd for sat and saorview.

swoofer

I have an elderly friend who is getting a raw deal from sky and I have heard great things about this box so if anyone has it can you say how easy it is to use, especially for recording and does it do series link. bear in mind person is elderly and thinks sky is great until it goes belly up and you have to ring them.

I know a bit about images, ie vix, openatv, openpli, blackhole etc but this box has to be easy peasy or I will spend all my time on the phone.

As KK once said " i would love it, just lov it, " if I could ..... sk.

help

Gerry Wicklow

The Formuler F1 is a twin tuner but you have the option to include an extra internal DVB-T2 or S2 tuner for Saorview. I have it running openATV and find it rock solid. EPG, recordings etc are as easy or even easier than any Sky interface I have ever seen.

swoofer

perfect and thank you, what hdd are you using, ie make and capacity. I have a samsung 500gb on a humax freeview and its tiny but works great. I have opeantv on a solo2 and like it. does that box do iptv and other plugins just out of interest.

Gerry Wicklow

I have a bog standard 200Gb laptop portable HDD. AFAIK just about any HDD will do but USB keys are not recommended. The Formuler also has an eSata port and SD card slot, presumably so you could access pics or video from a camera/phone. Being enigma based all the usual plugins work well

Johnboy1951

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

I have a bog standard 200Gb laptop portable HDD. AFAIK just about any HDD will do but NOT a USB key. The Formuler also has an eSata port and SD card slot, presumably so you could access pics or video from a camera/phone. Being enigma based all the usual plugins work well

Out of interest, do you know why a USB key will not work?

Gerry Wicklow

USB keys are not recommended for the main storage on any recorder. They are not designed for continuous writing/rewriting which is necessary for timeshifting. Cheaper keys are often not fast enough to handle even one HD signal and will struggle if you want to record/watch 3 HDs at once. A mechanical HDD is far better value/Gb

Johnboy1951

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

USB keys are not recommended for the main storage on any recorder. They are not designed for continuous writing/rewriting which is necessary for timeshifting. Cheaper keys are often not fast enough to handle even one HD signal and will struggle if you want to record/watch 3 HDs at once. A mechanical HDD is far better value/Gb

Yes I know, and agree with that.
Although not recommended they do still work!

Maybe I mis-understood what you meant but it seemed to me to say that a USB key would not work.

AFAIK just about any HDD will do but NOT a USB key.

Gerry Wicklow

OK I'll edit it to clarify

swoofer

will an e sata be powered by the e sata port?

Gerry Wicklow

swoofer wrote: »

will an e sata be powered by the e sata port?

I've no idea. Never used it. Other more techie people might know more:o

STB.

swoofer wrote: »

will an e sata be powered by the e sata port?

Nope.

Theoretically you could power a 5v one off the usb wich would be or around 5v.

swoofer

Ok, my idea is the e sata does nothing so if used would free up usb ports, I take it I still need a stick for epg stuff.

I get the idea of e sata use a caddy for power.

I looked at WOS and they offer image flashing does it come with all the sky stuff on it?

galtee boy

I know I've asked before and the answer was no, but just in case anything has changed, does anyone know if these boxes can be bought ready to plug and play, as in, 7 day epg for satellite and Saorview, series link etc, already installed and ready to go ?

Gerry Wicklow

galtee boy wrote: »

I know I've asked before and the answer was no, but just in case anything has changed, does anyone know if these boxes can be bought ready to plug and play, as in, 7 day epg for satellite and Saorview, series link etc, already installed and ready to go ?

No enigma box will ever be ready to go as you will have unique variables. Things like your home network and whichever is your local Saorview mast. 7day EPG and series linking are there by default in openATV. Other images may need a few tweaks to get them running. In most cases the first time you set up an image it will "walk" you through the setup using wizards for network and channel scanning.

galtee boy

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

No enigma box will ever be ready to go as you will have unique variables. Things like your home network and whichever is your local Saorview mast. 7day EPG and series linking are there by default in openATV. Other images may need a few tweaks to get them running. In most cases the first time you set up an image it will "walk" you through the setup using wizards for network and channel scanning.

OK, thanks.

GY A1

Epg is fine on the hdd
Have it that way myself also and no USB.
As the epg data only downloads once a day so hdd only loads once.

swoofer wrote: »

Ok, my idea is the e sata does nothing so if used would free up usb ports, I take it I still need a stick for epg stuff.

I get the idea of e sata use a caddy for power.

I looked at WOS and they offer image flashing does it come with all the sky stuff on it?

Zardoz

Wow the Formuler F1 is some steal at that price ,£89 .
That is a crazy price for a triple tuner with that spec.

Aquos76

Zardoz wrote: »

Wow the Formuler F1 is some steal at that price ,£89 .
That is a crazy price for a triple tuner with that spec.

From where?

Zardoz

Aquos76 wrote: »

From where?

https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/formuler_f1

The Mulk

Aquos76 wrote: »

From where?

https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/satellite-and-terrestrial/digital-receivers/formuler_/formuler_f1

(As above^^)

I got mine through Parcel motel, a great piece of kit

VeryRapidSkoda

Hi, I'm interested in this also. I have no satellite dish so I was wondering if I got this, how much would it be roughly to get it installed and by whom. I'm in Dublin west and if anyone has any recommendations if they could pm me please. Thanks.

Aquos76

great price alright as the trade price from satworld for this model is €140

martin6651

Had a look at this also but I'm confuses as to what options to set when ordering one.

Gerry Wicklow

martin6651 wrote: »

Had a look at this also but I'm confuses as to what options to set when ordering one.

Not being smart but enigma boxes have a bit of setting up involved and a fairly steep learning curve. They are aimed more for someone who is comfortable with computers, networks etc.

If you want Saorview, Irish channels, you need the third optional tuner to be a terrestrial DVB-T tuner.
I prefer the openATV software but vix also works well.
Do you have a spare external HDD for a laptop? If so you wont need the 500Gb USB drive.
Do you have a network connection nearby. If so you wont need the wifi dongle or homeplug. Wired is always best, followed by homeplugs, then wifi.
I prefer to use the HDD for all storage so you shouldn't need the extra USB key storage.

martin6651

Thank you, so there is no problems working here. Know a bit about computers and will get my son to help if I get into trouble.
Will need saorview and a hard drive, I have wired network beside tv so thats not a problem. I like to record a lot so the 2 sat tuners will be good with the hard drive.

Gerry Wicklow

martin6651 wrote: »

........... I like to record a lot so the 2 sat tuners will be good with the hard drive.

Yeah, sods law says there's nothing on all week then 3 things at once.

martin6651

Gerry So are you letting me that I cant record to programs that are on at the same time ????? HA

Gerry Wicklow

It will happily record 3 HD shows at once

martin6651

Gerry If you think I might be in over my head with this box can you recommend another with similar specs. before I purchase.

martin6651

Having a problem with world of satellite it wont accept my order.

Henry Ford III

martin6651 wrote: »

Having a problem with world of satellite it wont accept my order.

Must be a simple issue. I've bought plenty of stuff off them online and it's been very easy.

swoofer

are you using a uk card they mention payment in sterling only. I just tried and had no issues, they double check billing address as well so make sure billing and shipping match. failing that give them a call.

The Mulk

martin6651 wrote: »

Having a problem with world of satellite it wont accept my order.

I used PayPal and Parcel Motel, no problems.

martin6651

Sorted why using parcel motel ? didn't see that option when ordering

martin6651

Another question Now that I have the receiver sorted what is the best dish both size and number of satellite that can be picked up with dish.

Gerry Wicklow

martin6651 wrote: »

Another question Now that I have the receiver sorted what is the best dish both size and number of satellite that can be picked up with dish.

If you have an existing Sky dish it uses the same satellites as the FTA stuff. Sky Q dishes need a different LNB (the yoke on the dish arm) for normal boxes to work.
Here is the complete list of free channels currently available on the 28.2E suite of satellites.

martin6651

Gerry thanks not a sky customer, Virgin analog cable so no dish. I never get to watch all of those channels but just about enough to keep me happy. Any installer will be able to pick up this Astra satellite.

The Mulk

martin6651 wrote: »

Sorted why using parcel motel ? didn't see that option when ordering

you need to set up a parcel motel account, it gives you a virtual UK address.
Worked out cheaper and more convenient for me

http://www.parcelmotel.com/

Johnboy1951

The Mulk wrote: »

you need to set up a parcel motel account, it gives you a virtual UK address.
Worked out cheaper and more convenient for me

http://www.parcelmotel.com/

Similar also available via An Post

https://addresspal.anpost.ie/

gkp1

I had one delivered in 2 days directly from them for about a tenner, don't think there is much saving with parcel motel.
Another question, looking to add a second terrestrial tuner (USB), anyone know if this would work? Official Xbox One Digital TV Tuner (Xbox One)
by Microsoft
Link: http://amzn.eu/1LvzPFF

martin6651

Arrived this morning now to get some one to mount a satellite dish and saorview aerial. Didn't think that the hard-drive was external.

dakid

Gerry Wicklow wrote:

If you have an existing Sky dish it uses the same satellites as the FTA stuff. Sky Q dishes need a different LNB (the yoke on the dish arm) for normal boxes to work. Here is the

If I currently have chorus (yes it's an old connection that I don't even pay for but only has like 10 channels) available on my TV will the satellite that this is using be sufficient of I get the formuler f1 box?

Gerry Wicklow

No you will need your own dish for UK channels and an aerial for Irish channels. Are you getting UK channels now or just the Irish ones?

dodzy

Down to £79. Serious bargain.

Aquos76

dodzy wrote: »

Down to £79. Serious bargain.

It’s still £89 when you add the saorview tuner to it

dodzy

Aquos76 wrote: »

It’s still £89 when you add the saorview tuner to it

My bad, still a great price

Group buy. lol

Nemeses2050

Aquos76 wrote: »

It’s still £89 when you add the saorview tuner to it

It's working out £ 95.99 if I use PM or £101 if I ordered it to Irish Address. is it right?

martin6651

So before I start buying stuff that I dont need. What do I have to get to do multi room reception.

Aquos76

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

It's working out £ 95.99 if I use PM or £101 if I ordered it to Irish Address. is it right?

Yes, that includes the shipping price, cheapest in Ireland with a trade account will cost you €140 from satworld as far as I know.

unhappyBB

Can these boxes use a network share for pausing live TV/show recording instead of a local HDD?
Can they stream channels out over a network to say an android box for multi-room viewing with only one satellite receiver?

Gerry Wicklow

unhappyBB wrote: »

Can these boxes use a network share for pausing live TV/show recording instead of a local HDD?
Can they stream channels out over a network to say an android box for multi-room viewing with only one satellite receiver?

Yes they can be configured to use a remote NAS but I have never tried this so cannot say how reliable or efficient it would be.
You can stream either live or recorded to any device on your home network that has a web browser. If your BB is up to it you could also set up a noip type address for the box and access it from outside the home.