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November Series (non-Ireland)

  • 22-10-2017 10:57pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭ swiwi_


    NZ have named their squad with 20 year old hooker Asafo Aumua the uncapped player most of note. Don’t think he’s played super rugby yet but at U20 and Mitre 10 he looks a talent.

    We see if the SH can restore some pride. Folau not touring with Aussie is a pity.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,169 ✭✭✭ Burkie1203


    No Retallick, B Smith or Dagg


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,519 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Neil3030


    I declare this thread a safe space from the gum-bumping feckwittery that will infest the Ireland thread!

    Wiki says New Zealand will play "France XV", is that some weird non test match type scenario?

    Italy have Fiji, Argentina and South Africa - if the improvement in their clubs are anything to go on, we could see them pick up at least one, if not two wins there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,225 ✭✭✭✭ Venjur


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Wiki says New Zealand will play "France XV", is that some weird non test match type scenario?

    The XV stands for how many millions France are going to 'lend' NZRU if they vote for France 2023.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,169 ✭✭✭ Burkie1203


    Venjur wrote: »
    The XV stands for how many millions France are going to 'lend' NZRU if they vote for France 2023.

    Or how many millions they give to their academy. Otherwise known as Fiji ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 Elvisjuice


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Or how many millions they give to their academy. Otherwise known as Fiji ;)

    how many Fiji players are playing for the french international side ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,492 ✭✭✭✭ CIARAN_BOYLE


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    I declare this thread a safe space from the gum-bumping feckwittery that will infest the Ireland thread!

    Wiki says New Zealand will play "France XV", is that some weird non test match type scenario?

    Italy have Fiji, Argentina and South Africa - if the improvement in their clubs are anything to go on, we could see them pick up at least one, if not two wins there.

    France are playing New Zealand on 11 November in a test and again on Tuesday the 14th in a non test match South Africa on the 18th and Japan on the 25th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭ Sangre


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    NZ have named their squad with 20 year old hooker Asafo Aumua the uncapped player most of note. Don’t think he’s played super rugby yet but at U20 and Mitre 10 he looks a talent.

    We see if the SH can restore some pride. Folau not touring with Aussie is a pity.

    Whats Aumua's all round game like? Obviously his highlight reel is impressive but barnstorming runs aren't always enough at top level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭ swiwi_


    Sangre wrote: »
    Whats Aumua's all round game like? Obviously his highlight reel is impressive but barnstorming runs aren't always enough at top level.

    Don’t know a lot about him. I saw some of the U20 and that’s about it. But he’s consistently got rave reviews and it’s unusual for Hansen to select a player uncapped in Super Rugby. In the worst case if he can’t scrum or throw he can be put on the wing!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭ Digifriendly


    Any news on TV coverage of France and Italy tests? No reference to them on either BT Sports or Premier (UK equivalent of Eir Sports) websites.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 Former Former


    Wales squad for the autumn internationals

    Forwards: N Smith, R Evans, W Jones; T Francis, S Lee, L Brown; K Dacey, K Owens, E Dee; J Ball, AW Jones, S Davies, A Beard, C Hill; J Tipuric, S Cross, D Lydiate, T Faletau, A Shingler, J Navidi.

    Backs: G Davies, R Webb, A Davies; D Biggar, R Patchell, R Priestland, O Williams; H Parkes, O Watkin, J Davies, T Morgan; A Cuthbert, S Evans, H Amos; L Williams, L Halfpenny.

    Priestland is back in at the expense of Sam Davies, Owen Williams also in as the fourth out-half. Scott Williams and Jamie Roberts miss out.

    North is injured, hopefully Steff Evans gets a run.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭ Webbs


    A real left field pick in Sam Cross, one game for the Ospreys. I think it was his first 80min game in a couple of years. He was a star of the 7 circuit for Wales and GB.
    The picks certainly seem to indicate a change in Gatlands tactics. Presumably he will be going with a ball playing 12 with 4 OHs in the squad


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,978 irishbucsfan


    Webbs wrote: »
    A real left field pick in Sam Cross, one game for the Ospreys. I think it was his first 80min game in a couple of years. He was a star of the 7 circuit for Wales and GB.
    The picks certainly seem to indicate a change in Gatlands tactics. Presumably he will be going with a ball playing 12 with 4 OHs in the squad

    Or Parkes at 12?

    EDIT: Just remembered he's not elligible until December


  • Subscribers Posts: 36,237 ✭✭✭✭ sydthebeat


    Scott Williams' star really has fallen. A victim of Warren Ball?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭ swiwi_


    A who's who of ex-NZ Super Rugby centres set to make debuts for their adopted countries

    Phil Burleigh - Scotland
    Hadleigh Parkes - Wales
    ?Bundee Aki - Ireland

    I would firmly class the first 2 as journeymen, and I'm surprised Scotland and Wales need them - both countries have better centres available IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,978 irishbucsfan


    Parkes is a very good player. He's not a superstar but he excels in multiple areas both at 12 and on the wing. Could end up being Wales' Jared Payne.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,233 ✭✭✭ Yeah_Right


    Parkes is a poor man's Jarod Payne. A decent pro but I can't believe Wales don't have better options in the midfield.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    BASTAREAUD Mathieu (RC Toulon)
    BELLEAU Anthony (RC Toulon)
    CANCORIET Judica(ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    CHAUME Rapha(ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    DOUMAYROU Geoffrey (Stade Rochelais)
    DUCUING Nans (Union Bordeaux Bes)
    DUPONT Antoine (Stade Toulousain)
    GABRILLAGUES Paul (Stade Frans Paris)
    GOURDON Kevin (Stade Rochelais)
    GUILLAMON Antoine (Montpellier RC)
    GUIRADO Guilhem (RC Toulon) (Capitaine)
    HUGET Yoann (Stade Toulousain)
    JELONCH Anthony (Castres Olympique)
    KOTZE Daniel (Castres Olympique)
    LACROIX Gabriel (Stade Rochelais)
    LAMBEY Felix (Lyon OU)
    LAMERAT R (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    MAYNADIER Clnt (Union Bordeaux Bes)
    OUEDRAOGO Fulgence (Montpellier RC)
    PENAUD Damian (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    PICAMOLES Louis (Montpellier RC)
    POIROT Jefferson (Union Bordeaux Bes)
    SERIN Baptiste (Union Bordeaux Bes)
    SLIMANI Rabah (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    SPEDDING Scott (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    TAOFIFENUA Romain (RC Toulon)
    TAULEIGNE Marco (Union Bordeaux Bes)
    THOMAS Teddy (Racing 92)
    TOLOFUA Christopher (Saracens RFC)
    TRINH-DUC Frans (RC Toulon)
    VAHAAMAHINA Sstien (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    VAKATAWA Virimi (Racing 92)

    BONNEVAL Hugo (RC Toulon)
    CHAT Camille (Racing 92)
    CHAVANCY Henry (Racing 92)
    FICKOU Ga(Stade Toulousain)
    HAMADACHE Malik (Section Paloise)
    JEDRASIAK Paul (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    LE ROUX Bernard (Racing 92)
    LESGOURGUES Yann (Union Bordeaux Bes)
    MACALOU Sekou (Stade Frans Paris)
    MACHENAUD Maxime (Racing 92)
    MAESTRI Yoann (Stade Toulousain)
    PLISSON Jules (Stade Frans Paris)
    POINTUD Lucas (Stade Toulousain)
    PRISO Dany (Stade Rochelais)

    France play NZ on Sat 11th November in Paris and on Tues 14th November in Lyon.

    The first list are the players who will prepare for France's first game against New Zealand. The second list are players who will prepare for France's second game and will be joined by players from the first list not selected for the first game.

    Clear? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭ stephen_n


    Wales squad for the autumn internationals

    Scott Williams and Jamie Roberts miss out.

    That would appear to be that for Jamie Roberts international career.


  • Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭ MDunne14


    He is unbelievable In contact about as quick as Jordan larmour and has the hands of a halfback , also is exceptional in scrum and line out .. best prospect at 20 years old in the world right now bar reiko ioane .
    Sangre wrote: »
    Whats Aumua's all round game like? Obviously his highlight reel is impressive but barnstorming runs aren't always enough at top level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭ swiwi_


    NZ probables 0 vs NZ possibles 5

    I find the BaaBaas concept a bit lame, when they are so full of Kiwis, it kind of defeats the point.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,045 ✭✭✭✭ vienne86


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    NZ probables 0 vs NZ possibles 5

    I find the BaaBaas concept a bit lame, when they are so full of Kiwis, it kind of defeats the point.

    Agreed. But it's entertaining! Especially after the Pro14 matches so far this weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,455 ✭✭✭ Kiwi_knock


    Competitive game so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭ swiwi_


    vienne86 wrote: »
    Agreed. But it's entertaining! Especially after the Pro14 matches so far this weekend.

    It's a bit of a NZ B side, but jeepers they wouldn't want to ship a loss to the BaaBaas. Especially with 5 or so BaaBaas players joining up with NZ after the match...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,455 ✭✭✭ Kiwi_knock


    That is brilliant by Naholo.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,392 CMod ✭✭✭✭ awec


    That’s nice :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭ swiwi_


    Naholo Nadolo.

    Same diff :p

    That was class.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭ razorblunt


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    A who's who of ex-NZ Super Rugby centres set to make debuts for their adopted countries

    Phil Burleigh - Scotland
    Hadleigh Parkes - Wales
    ?Bundee Aki - Ireland

    I would firmly class the first 2 as journeymen, and I'm surprised Scotland and Wales need them - both countries have better centres available IMO.

    Burleigh is a very strange choice, dont think, the Edinburgh fans rate him, then again they don't rate much.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Some seriously sloppy play going on


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭ razorblunt


    Luatua really doesn't want to score against the All Blacks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,220 ✭✭✭✭ Clegg


    Poor Steven Luatua must be wondering why he's getting all these open field carries.


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