Xenoblade Chronicles 2

Ace Attorney

Its probably time to start a thread for this, less than 2 months to go before launch. Im super looking forward to it, xenoblade wii i would rank as one of the greatest games ive ever played. cant wait to spend christmas break getting stuck into 2.

Xenoblade is a fantastic JRPG franchise that has rarely received the attention it deserves. The previous two entries embraced the hardcore audience with their staggering open worlds and imaginative characters, yet they seldom penetrated the mainstream.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, bringing a broad, gorgeous adventure to Nintendo Switch later this year, although a solid release date hasn’t yet been announced, leaving us with only a brief trailer to whet our appetite.


Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/xenoblade-chronicles-2-release-date-gameplay-trailer-switch-characters-story-2993172#0QEOpHKmiRkzEEgd.99

CiDeRmAn

Between Xenoblade Chronicles and Chronicles X, while I can appreciate the complex world, the creature designs, the colossal plot and just the gosh darn magnificence of it all, leading me to own them on Wii, 3DS and WiiU, I just can't for the life of me figure out the combat system, meaning they remain lost to me.
Now, a new one looms on the horizon and I am torn, do I buy it and let it taunt me from the shelf, alongside it's brothers and sisters, or do I stick my fingers in my ears and go "La La La" and pretend the game doesn't exist....

Hmm, might need to start a poll....

Banjo

I started Chronicles on the vWii and X on the WiiU and I got so far... but I dunno, maybe there's something about me that's changed since my days as a pimply youth running around in many the JRPG, it was just too big, the NPCs were too faceless and there was no jeopardy in the combat so I was just clicking next-next-next. It didn't help that the voice acting was terrible and the plot a little obvious. I think I had too little time on the WiiU, not enough contiguous runs of time to really get anything done. Maybe with the Switch where you can suspend at any point you like and resume for short bursts I might get more out of it?

I can see myself buying this because I "should" and never getting anywhere, and then playing the crap out of the Fire Emblem musou because it's fast and immediate.

Dermo

I've never played any Xenoblade before but it looks so amazing that I think I will need to get it. Is there a story that I need to catch up on or any lore?

Ace Attorney

The combat is unintuitive to the point where i had to google a guide on how to attack propperly and how to chain attack etc, that is one major flaw in the games which is a shame because it would put people off when it takes ages to kill something. The thing about the games is that it can be grindy aswell and unless you have the time to spend to build up levels and beat that monster that kicked your ass earlier you might lose intrest in the game. What drew me into the original chronicles on the wii was the exploration and the story that developed (without giving anything away) and the huge areas. X on the wiiu was a beautiful looking game but had the same issues on combat that i mentioned and the developers said they created the game first and the story after which might explain the meh we got. Some people like these sort of games, some dont, i wouldn't buy it just cause were told its good, id buy it based on previous experiences of the franchise youd have. No point in forcing yourself to like it.

Re:lore & story. Chronicles on the wii seems to share a similarish setup but seems to be a different cast with more races, its hard to say if its a direct sequal to the one on the wii but it has 2 in the title so i dont know. X on the wiiu is a spin off so no need to worry about it.

Ace Attorney

Nintendo uk shop doing an awful nice lookin bundle for xenoblade right now
https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/918869021847638016

Ace Attorney

Looking forward to the direct today, but will have to watch the recorded version this evening gah!

TitianGerm

Ace Attorney wrote: »

Nintendo uk shop doing an awful nice lookin bundle for xenoblade right now
https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/918869021847638016

Ah man I just came across this now and I was thinking of pick Xenoblade up for my Christmas Switch. I can't seem to find the bundle on the Nintendo Store though, is it sold out?

Ace Attorney

https://store.nintendo.co.uk/games/nintendo-switch/xenoblade-chronicles-2/games.list?widget_id=770530

Its there as either the collectors edition, controller limited edition , or fan pack.

TitianGerm

Ace Attorney wrote: »

https://store.nintendo.co.uk/games/nintendo-switch/xenoblade-chronicles-2/games.list?widget_id=770530

Ah I thought the tweet showed everything available as a bundle... My mistake :pac:

Ace Attorney

emmetkenny wrote: »

Ah I thought the tweet showed everything available as a bundle... My mistake :pac:

It was probably my fault for the way i worded the post, no :pac: necessary my friend

sligeach

Watch the UK Direct live stream here:

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Direct – 07.11.2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7SM5NAsazE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7SM5NAsazE

sligeach

America is getting the slightly better Collector's Edition. Their artbook is hardback while it's paperback in Europe.

America

Europe

There's a lot more happening on their external boxart too.

Ace Attorney

just got to watch the direct there, words cannot express how hyped i am for this game.... its like a mix of chronicles on the wii built on XcXs engine.

Sligeach i know you are a xenoblade fan aswell, surely this game is tempting you to switch? c'mon Odessesy and now this.

sligeach

It does look fantastic but then they went and tempered my excitement by announcing the Expansion Pass. I thought squeezing it down to 13GB's was magic(half XCX's size) but I think now it may be down to giving only so much as the base game and charging another 50% for their last year of development. I've talked about it elsewhere, I might come back to it. But I'm 99% sure there won't be 50% extra content for the €30 extra. Anyway, I came here to post some news.

Massive interview with Xenoblade Chronicles 2 's executive director Tetsuya Takahashi and producer Koh Kojima.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Big World, Big Battles, Big Changes

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/xenoblade_chronicles_2/b/switch/archive/2017/11/07/xenoblade-chronicles-2-hands-on-feature.aspx?

CiDeRmAn

It's the complex turn based combat that turns me right off.
Just give me an option to have to real time battles instead of stacking moves and commands.

ShadowHearth

I watch that Direct show and I got very mixed opinion about this game.

From one point of view I love the universe and whole driver and blade system.

What I dont like that I felt very overwhelmed by all of it. There are switching of blades mid battle, combos and ather stuff. I think I am just getting too old and I like a bit more simplier and easier ways.

CiDeRmAn

I want the following
X for a medium attack
Y for a hard attack
A makes the character jump
B makes the character kick

Shoulder buttons for switching weapons and dodging.

Pretty much the Bayonetta combat system

Why can't I have Xenoblade Chronicles games like that?
I know I'll have more fun, rather than wasting the couple of gaming hours I get per week trying to figure out the attack procedure

manual_man

sligeach wrote: »

Watch the UK Direct live stream here:

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Direct – 07.11.2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7SM5NAsazE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7SM5NAsazE

I felt like i was watching a mildly dodgy 80's cartoon episode

ShadowHearth

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I want the following
X for a medium attack
Y for a hard attack
A makes the character jump
B makes the character kick

Shoulder buttons for switching weapons and dodging.

Pretty much the Bayonetta combat system

Why can't I have Xenoblade Chronicles games like that?
I know I'll have more fun, rather than wasting the couple of gaming hours I get per week trying to figure out the attack procedure

Maybe we want different things, but when I remember goold old jrpg it was:

Attack
Magic
Gf/ultimate
Item

Xenoblade looks too complicated for its own good. I know the gaming gpt pushed to innovate and do more complex stuff, but there has,tp be a limit, no?

CiDeRmAn

Does GF mean girlfriend?

ShadowHearth

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Does GF mean girlfriend?

Nah, Guardian force from ff8. I like the way you think though!

Ace Attorney

new ninty ad for xenoblade

Banjo

Just watched the direct.

Is there a diploma course I can do to prepare me for that combat system?
"Your party can have 3 drivers. Each driver can have 3 blades. Each blade can have two different elemental hilts and each hilt will have the square root of 23 pommels, unless it's a day that begins with a T in which case you can double that for every vowel in the name of the 2nd blade of the character on your immediate left."
The more I see, the more I hanker for the brainless button mash of Hyrule Warriors

sligeach

I seen that ad yesterday, it's $h1t€. They could have done a lot better. That ad and the one for Skyrim came out at the same time, the Skyrim ad is good.

ShadowHearth

Banjo wrote: »

Just watched the direct.

Is there a diploma course I can do to prepare me for that combat system?
"Your party can have 3 drivers. Each driver can have 3 blades. Each blade can have two different elemental hilts and each hilt will have the square root of 23 pommels, unless it's a day that begins with a T in which case you can double that for every vowel in the name of the 2nd blade of the character on your immediate left."
The more I see, the more I hanker for the brainless button mash of Hyrule Warriors

That was my point. They made it so complicated. I never through I ever say this, but couldn't they do it a bit simplier? They geniune pushing me away from a game as I could not be arsed to invest so much brain power in it.

Dont know, maybe it sounds way too scary on a paper and just marketing tries to make it complex and cool for cool kids. In reality it might be just reskined normal things you do in jrpgs.

Banjo

Yeah, it may turn out to be familiar or intuitive but honestly my brain just started blocking out the words as he gibbered on and on about how "that's not all!". In fairness, most of what he was ****ing on about seemed to have corresponding on-screen prompts to ensure you were aware of what could be done. Didn't see how quick or seamless switching Blades was, but assume it's easily done since they're encouraging it as a dynamic gameplay mechanic.

I dunno. Maybe I'd be happier shooting cacodemons...

Sparko

I definitely tuned out a bit when they started describing combat. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now based on enjoying the previous 2 games. I'll see what the reviews are like when they come out.

sligeach

3 Japanese Xenoblade Chronicles 2 ads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRBrvXiMBQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRBrvXiMBQg

They're miles better than the gick NOA made.

Ace Attorney

Collectors edition on amazon 79.99 same as ninty uk

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xenoblade-Chronicles-Collectors-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B075LKWQN2/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_cp_0_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B075LKWQN2&pd_rd_r=WBBCHW434NTYDNHWS4BD&pd_rd_w=G5cC3&pd_rd_wg=xetqx&psc=1&refRID=WBBCHW434NTYDNHWS4BD

Wolverine359

Ace Attorney wrote: »

Collectors edition on amazon 79.99 same as ninty uk

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xenoblade-Chronicles-Collectors-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B075LKWQN2/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_cp_0_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B075LKWQN2&pd_rd_r=WBBCHW434NTYDNHWS4BD&pd_rd_w=G5cC3&pd_rd_wg=xetqx&psc=1&refRID=WBBCHW434NTYDNHWS4BD

It’s gone up already? I preordered it on amazon just a few days ago for 69.99.

Ace Attorney

Wolverine359 wrote: »

It’s gone up already? I preordered it on amazon just a few days ago for 69.99.

probably realised they were cheaper than ninty and put it up. ya got a nice deal there

sligeach

Introduction to Xenoblade 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSTAM5fP0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSTAM5fP0s

It's in Japanese but it's still nice to watch.

sligeach

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Q&A: 40 of YOUR Questions Answered by Chuggaaconroy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2_aV6v04aw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2_aV6v04aw

Banjo

Jaysus, Pikachu has really let himself go....

sligeach

Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Behind the story development

https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/xenoblade-chronicles-2-behind-the-story-development

sligeach

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - In search of Elysium (Nintendo Switch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw5nTUDtC78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw5nTUDtC78

Sephiroth_dude

Thinking about buying a switch just for this

CiDeRmAn

I'm going to wait, I have the franchise on Wii, WiiU and N3DS and can't get into any of them, no sense in throwing money at the game only for it to only look pretty on my shelf.

Banjo

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I'm going to wait, I have the franchise on Wii, WiiU and N3DS and can't get into any of them, no sense in throwing money at the game only for it to only look pretty on my shelf.

Who are you and what have you done with our mod??

sligeach

Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Shadow of the Lowlands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKS3X0wlm8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKS3X0wlm8

Sephiroth_dude

The xeno games always have great music.

CiDeRmAn

Banjo wrote: »

Who are you and what have you done with our mod??

You really need to come along to the Christmas Beers in my place on the 15th of December to see just how dreadful my game collection has gotten.
Shelves of great games that have gotten little more than the tutorial played
You know you're in trouble when you don't even have the time to play all of your Switch games, the rest has no hope.


That said....


Playing Titanfall 2 right now, it's amazing.

Ace Attorney

Just a few more days, cant wait but wont be able to play fully for a few weeks too much work to do over the next 3 weeks

https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/935146199518031875

CiDeRmAn

Is it promising that there isn't a preinstall pack for the game, as there was for Xenoblade Chronicles X on the WiiU?

sligeach

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Story Trailer - Nintendo Switch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOQ9q4HDb0U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOQ9q4HDb0U

sligeach

I'm glad we got this interview, after watching that trailer today I had a few questions.

Find out more about the music of Xenoblade Chronicles 2

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2017/November/Find-out-more-about-the-music-of-Xenoblade-Chronicles-2-1310312.html

It's well worth reading, with a mention of Ireland and ANÚNA.

CiDeRmAn

sligeach wrote: »

I'm glad we got this interview, after watching that trailer today I had a few questions.

Find out more about the music of Xenoblade Chronicles 2

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2017/November/Find-out-more-about-the-music-of-Xenoblade-Chronicles-2-1310312.html

It's well worth reading, with a mention of Ireland and ANÚNA.

There's a great piece to be written about the influence and use of Irish music in Japanese video games, from Metal Gear Solid to the obvious influences in LoZ.

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

There's a great piece to be written about the influence and use of Irish music in Japanese video games, from Metal Gear Solid to the obvious influences in LoZ.

Mitsuda has always been influenced by Irish music. There's a heavy influence in all the games he has composed since Chrono Cross.

I know Clannad recorded an official FF4 album as well called Celtic Moon which is fantastic.

super_furry

Ordered it today, €50 delivered from Smyths was too good to turn down. Do they ever get games out the day of release or is it a few days after?

sligeach

super_furry wrote: »

Ordered it today, €50 delivered from Smyths was too good to turn down. Do they ever get games out the day of release or is it a few days after?

I seem to remember that there were people here that had their SNES Classic Mini delivered on the release date. But any time I've ordered games from them they would arrive on the following Monday or Tuesday. Plus with Nintendo now cracking down on street dates being broken I'd say there's less chance of it being delivered on the release date. See what others have to say about more recent games like Super Mario Odyssey and other first party titles.