Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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Antics21

This is nonsense by the way. Tipp and Cork out of all counties have a mutual respect for each other. The great teams of the 50s and 60s contested fierce battles and remained friends for years after. Yesterday was no different where I was sitting.

Straight Talker

Think back to that semi final against Clare in 2005. They had us on the ropes but we still found a way to win. We've been waiting twenty years for an all Ireland since because we never really replaced the warriors and leaders that the 2004 and 2005 team had in abundance. You could sense the fear and tension rising when Tipp came at us in the start of the second half. Once the first Tipp goal went in that was that. We were done.

It was unforgivable really to just surrender like that. 2007 against Kerry was a bad day alright but i kind of knew we were going to lose despite hoping for the best beforehand. Yesterday was worse because i genuinely believed we were going to do it, and i just didn't forsee an implosion like that happening.

Philip82

As an outsider looking in I honestly think that both Limerick and Cork got caught up in the whole recent rivalry that was completely hyped up to new heights this year mostly by the gaa, the media, Sunday Game etc. As it turned out it did have an undesired result. Both teams fell into the trap of peaking and completely burning the bodies and minds out in an unbelievable effort to win Munster this year. Limerick and Cork showed enough bottle, hurling,fight,spirit and determination in June but the hidden toll that takes results in performances like Limericks in the semi and Corks yesterday. The momentum was with Tipp yesterday with fresh minds and enough hunger to put in that once a year huge performance that wins you an All Ireland. Unfortunately for Cork that performance came in June.

thefa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657448#Comment_123657448

Clare semi in 2005 and Waterford semi in 2006 are two games etched in my memory for atmosphere. Neither had cricket scores like the classics down the home stretch last year but great cork games from a super & resilient team.

Somebody posted last week that this team basically wasn’t a patch on many of that team which I thought was harsh but looking at it now, I don’t know.

Gamb!t

Well the final certainly lived up to the hype some game, unfortunately not our day but fair fecks to Tip,they roared back.

That final will haunt us for a long time, the warning signs were there throughout the year though with us racing ahead only for teams to claw back points (Clare and Tip) earlier in the year.

loadwire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657436#Comment_123657436

Agree. My dad was a tipp man who always had loads of time for Cork, both the people and the hurlers, and would talk the ear off you about great games between them in that period. He brought me to great tipp cork games in the 80s/90s. I thought of him yesterday when I saw how sound the cork fans around me were in defeat.

New Scottman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123654057#Comment_123654057

Galway scored 0-2 in the second half of the 1981 All Ireland final.

namloc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657582#Comment_123657582

Kilkenny scored 0-2 in the second half in 2004 also.

realdanbreen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657268#Comment_123657268

So you're saying the Tipp woman didn't have a "healthy respect " for you , how come?

almostover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657475#Comment_123657475

Complete rubbish, Tipp had to battle to draw with Limerick in Munster, battle again to beat Clare and again with 14 men against Kilkenny only 2 weeks ago. This peaking early talk is nonsense. We had a soft underbelly this year and it reared it's head again in the 2nd half yesterday.

lukin

A lot of the glee at Cork's defeat is down to that idiot with the tattoo.

But it's wrong to tar everyone with the same brush. Not all Cork supporters were confident beforehand.

It's just that those that were have bigger mouths.

Large bottle small glass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657499#Comment_123657499

Pat Mulcahy, The Rock, Sherlock, Sean Og, Curran and Gardiner there is no comparison with the current crop of defenders.

Corcoran was a man apart, quite said very little, but really effective wherever he played and led by example when he returned.

I'm not seeing any replacement for Niall McCarthy; heart as big as a house, fearless and tough as nails.

The two O'Connors, Deane.

There is no comparison.

almostover

I'm still trying to rationalise yesterday's 2nd half meltdown. And maybe it can't be rationalised. Maybe there is no logic to it.

One question that springs to mind though is did last year's defeat to Clare really hurt this group of players. Did it sicken them enough that they would rather die with their boots on than taste the bitter disappointment of loss again. It really feels like that it didn't. Like it was somehow accepted that their time would come and all they had to do was keep doing what they were doing. Like it was ordained.

All this BS talk about how 'We're Cork' and that 'This team's time has come' from the media and fans has to have some effect. It has to permeate the psyche. But it's all just empty words, rubbish to sell papers and get people to listen to podcasts. Commercial nonsense. Any final that's lost should be grieved, a gut punch that knock the wind from your sails. There's never any guarantee that you'll get another chance, you have to fight to earn the right to win.

They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results. We've been at that for over 20 years in Cork hurling. I'm not writing off this team yet but their reaction next season will be the telling thing. Will they be like this Tipp team who won no championship game last year and used that as the fuel for this year's triumph? Or will they accept their fate and be the nearly men again? Time will tell.

JanuarySnowstor

I was asked by a shop assistant in Dublin Saturday if I thought Cork would win. I replied by saying I thought there was really only one team in it! I wasn't being arrogant this was my judgement having been to Cork v Tipp matches over last 18mts. He thought I was giving a very arrogant answer. In hindsight he was right but for me I was just saying what I thought pre match

The_Kew_Tour

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657754#Comment_123657754

1000%

I also saw sport twitter accounts saying Cork fans were showing poor form for not staying on after the game.

I don't know of any support I have seen stay on after All Ireland defeat.

Most my friends were hopeful.

I was praying for Kilkenny win 2 weeks ago. I was still hopeful yesterday.

Fellas like Dan Casey and that tattoo fella makes us look bad but plenty supporters in other counties do same.

The_Kew_Tour

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123656674#Comment_123656674

Funny I was near pub by Croker for 2008 final and was sea of white before full time whistle went. Google pictures around stands also tell different picture.

Straight Talker

I feel the same way as poor John McHale in the Evening Echo here but we'll all get over it in time.

https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-41673191.html

Straight Talker

We've had nice guys in Kieran Kingston and Pat Ryan managing us in recent years and some people still have it in for us! We need someone who's ruthless and not afraid to ruffle some feathers as our next manager. It's going to take someone from the 2004/2005 panel to take us all the way back to the top again. That someone is Ben O'Connor.

eastie17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657212#Comment_123657212

nonsense, the reason Dublin and limerick became successful was because from the top of the organisation to the bottom they got their houses in order, got some serious people involved, planned well and executed on it. Nothing to do with “hurt”

The_Kew_Tour

Ben O Connor won't take Cork job by all accounts

eastie17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657754#Comment_123657754

who is from Waterford apparently

Straight Talker

I couldn't give a shite about league or Munster titles next year either. Third place in the Munster group stage will do fine and pray for Kilkenny, Galway or Wexford at a long shot in the final if we make it back there. We're cursed when it comes to all Ireland finals against Munster teams!

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123655453#Comment_123655453

Not that it’s hugely relevant here, but League genuinely.. and I mean this now.. seriously means absolutely sweet fúck all.

flatty

Galway are at least a decade away from a serious challenge.

flatty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123656636#Comment_123656636

And that is one of the greatest strawmen you'll ever see in fairness.

Straight Talker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123656725#Comment_123656725

Seriously we don't need lectures on general conduct from outside the county. Some Dublin GAA fans were full of their own horseshit for example when they were serious bottlers in football. Confidence and Cork will always go hand in hand. I grew up with the mentality that a Cork hurler should bow down to and respect no one during the heat of battle. Then shake hands afterwards etc. Sadly the more current generation of Cork players have lost that mentality. You argue that we don't win because we're too arrogant. Well i would argue that the problem is that our players are not arrogant or confident enough on the field in both senior codes.