4Chan with another brilliant trolling social commentary

Canis Lupus

silverharp wrote: »

Here is how the Germans troll nazis, contrast with antifa who seem intent on creating more nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvjIYl_Nlao

I think you'll find this is the best way to troll them.

Are Am Eye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrABvZy8uc

Saruhashi

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Nothing wrong and indeed everything right with punching Nazis - of whatever sex. They're Nazis.

Is there an age restriction on that?

Would you punch a 12 year old Nazi?

Doctor Nick

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Is dog poo an acceptable alternative?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/24/san-francisco-dog-poo-protest-patriot-prayer-rally

Tuffy Tuffington? Seriously? What else was he going to be but a SJW. I blame the parents.

VinLieger

Very little comes out of 4chan these days that anyone over the age of 14 would consider clever social commentary

osarusan

VinLieger wrote: »

Very little comes out of 4chan these days that anyone over the age of 14 would consider clever social commentary

Indeed, taking some photos from an existing campaign, adding a slogan and an anti-fascist logo, then tweeting them from puppet accounts as if real...is not any kind of social commentary, it's idiots doing idiotic things to entertain themselves and other easily impressed idiots.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I'd be more than a bit annoyed if I was a battered woman who was then portrayed as being a nazi and in some way deserving of the battering, to be honest.

Saruhashi

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Maybe.

A more pertinent example for the US left/hard-left in how opposition can strengthen your opponents is the Reichstag fire, the ability to portray your opponents as dangerous and wanting to destroy the state is a blessing if you are looking to bring in authoritarian measures and delegitimize your opponents.

Violence to achieve political goals is a moral question, using violence in a way that ineffective to your goals is worse than amoral its stupid.

It's honestly amazing to me how many people don't see this.

Also ridiculous that people constantly bring up WW2 as an example of when "violence stopped the Nazis".

People tend to forget the contribution the USSR made to defeating the Nazis. The Germans suffered 75% of their military losses fighting the Russians.

Stalingrad. Kursk.

Instead we have to listen to this nonsense idea that the USA came swooping in to beat the Nazis because they are just such good and wonderful guys.

No. Racism and White Supremacy was RAMPANT in the USA in the 1940s but we need to brush that under the carpet when it suits us because they fought the Nazis.

Many Black Muslim men were imprisoned in the USA for refusing to fight in the war. That's right, there were black men in early 1940s America who were put in jail because they didn't want to get involved in violence with Nazis.

Nowadays if you don't agree with violence against so-called "Nazis" then that must mean you are a Nazi.

andekwarhola

Remember when AH was fun?

Cienciano

dreamers75 wrote: »

Can we reject 4chan ?

By having a job and not living with your parents you are rejecting 4chan

Saruhashi

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'd be more than a bit annoyed if I was a battered woman who was then portrayed as being a nazi and in some way deserving of the battering, to be honest.

But there are people who do believe that women who are Nazis should be battered.

There are people who will falsely accuse others of being Nazis before battering them.

So how do people who would batter a woman because she is a "Nazi" differ from people who would batter a woman for other reasons?

Violence is violence.

Christy42

Saruhashi wrote: »

It's honestly amazing to me how many people don't see this.

Also ridiculous that people constantly bring up WW2 as an example of when "violence stopped the Nazis".

People tend to forget the contribution the USSR made to defeating the Nazis. The Germans suffered 75% of their military losses fighting the Russians.

Stalingrad. Kursk.

Instead we have to listen to this nonsense idea that the USA came swooping in to beat the Nazis because they are just such good and wonderful guys.

No. Racism and White Supremacy was RAMPANT in the USA in the 1940s but we need to brush that under the carpet when it suits us because they fought the Nazis.

Many Black Muslim men were imprisoned in the USA for refusing to fight in the war. That's right, there were black men in early 1940s America who were put in jail because they didn't want to get involved in violence with Nazis.

Nowadays if you don't agree with violence against so-called "Nazis" then that must mean you are a Nazi.

The entire punch a nazi campaign is a false flag http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41036631

Why do you think they picked women for the pictures? It was to provoke an emotional response of sympathy for them. Similarly just showing the injuries which again gives sympathy to the injured party. If you actually wanted to create a campaign to promote violence you would show the targets in scenarios that make them seem deserving of violence, not as victims.

There was no social commentary here. Just a bad attempt at a smear campaign.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Saruhashi wrote: »

But there are people who do believe that women who are Nazis should be battered.

There are people who will falsely accuse others of being Nazis before battering them.

So how do people who would batter a woman because she is a "Nazi" differ from people who would batter a woman for other reasons?

Violence is violence.

Bit of a strawman arguemnt there, or did you reply to the wrong post...?

Saruhashi

Christy42 wrote: »

The entire punch a nazi campaign is a false flag http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41036631

Why do you think they picked women for the pictures? It was to provoke an emotional response of sympathy for them. Similarly just showing the injuries which again gives sympathy to the injured party. If you actually wanted to create a campaign to promote violence you would show the targets in scenarios that make them seem deserving of violence, not as victims.

There was no social commentary here. Just a bad attempt at a smear campaign.

I know it was a fake campaign.

I thought the point the 4chan posts were making here is that despite all the campaigns condemning violence against women you have many people who are saying that violence against women is OK, so long as the woman is a Nazi.

Saruhashi

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Bit of a strawman arguemnt there, or did you reply to the wrong post...?

Yes. A bit of a blunder there. Sorry!

Mr. CooL ICE

jacksie66 wrote: »

Left wing. Ring wing. A bunch of willie arses if you ask me. Who's with me?

Willie arses. Hehehehehehe

Hector Savage

All you "Liberals" clapping and thinking punching Nazis is great - Do you know Antifas definition of a nazi ?
It's basically anyone with a different opinion then they have.

Anyone with even slightly conservative views - so yeah - Punch away lads!!

Chips Lovell

Meanwhile, in the real world....

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Hector Savage wrote: »

All you "Liberals" clapping and thinking punching Nazis is great - Do you know Antifas definition of a nazi ?
It's basically anyone with a different opinion then they have.

Anyone with even slightly conservative views - so yeah - Punch away lads!!

I think I'll pass on etymological advice from someone who doesn't even know what a "liberal" is, thank you very much.

WinnyThePoo

Isn't 4chan famous for unfiltered child porn and spider man thread memes? .

Mena

riffmongous wrote: »

Thanks for the inane pedantry

Ah it's my pleasure.

Christy42

Saruhashi wrote: »

I know it was a fake campaign.

I thought the point the 4chan posts were making here is that despite all the campaigns condemning violence against women you have many people who are saying that violence against women is OK, so long as the woman is a Nazi.

It isn't even though given it is calling on all Trump voters to be hit as opposed to nazis.

As for hitting nazis. Kinda depends on what they are doing amongst their business of being a nazi. If it is in self defense or the defense of others (let's be fair violence is a large part of idealogy of being a nazi and racism makes it easy to justify) then let fly (irregardless of their gender).

I have never agreed with hitting nazis for the sake of hitting nazis (or any other extremist). I think counter protests like the ones seen in Boston are the best way to stop nutters as seen by them cancelling their further protests. Having said that I am never going to have too much support for nazis who do get hurt-supporting violence and complaining about it when you get hurt is a bit hypocritical.

marcus001

steddyeddy wrote: »

I seem to remember violence being pretty effective against Nazis.

Perhaps your memory is not as sharp as mine because I see to remember the Nazis were so effective at bashing communists in the street they were put into power to avoid a communist take over.

VinLieger

marcus001 wrote: »

Perhaps your memory is not as sharp as mine because I see to remember the Nazis were so effective at bashing communists in the street they were put into power to avoid a communist take over.

That's a pretty filtered view of the complexities going on in 1930's germany

marcus001

VinLieger wrote: »

That's a pretty filtered view of the complexities going on in 1930's germany

Yes, but the summary of 1930s Germany is enough to demonstrate that violence against Nazis didn't work.

The only violence that worked was violence against Germans in the form of world war 2.

conorhal

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I think I'll pass on etymological advice from someone who doesn't even know what a "liberal" is, thank you very much.

Neither do Antifa, here, they left a message for you in Berkley....

kunst nugget

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Creating Nazis? They haven't turned me into a Nazi, have they turned you into a Nazi?
I think if you're a Nazi because of antifa, you were probably a Nazi anyway and are just looking for an excuse.

I was totally going to be not a Nazi until Antifa turned me into a racist scumbag. I am entirely blameless in this scenario…

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

conorhal wrote: »

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I think I'll pass on etymological advice from someone who doesn't even know what a "liberal" is, thank you very much.

Neither do Antifa, here, they left a message for you in Berkley....

Never said they did, to be fair.

scopper

Ah Nazis and Antifa, the two most insufferable elements of society locked in an inconsequential battle playing out mostly via youtube clips of someone getting a punch.

WoollyRedHat

Antifa seem to relish confrontation even if bystanders sometime are wrongly targetted. Violence begets violence. Far-right nuts then use this as a way to entrench their views that they are the victim with their rights impugned upon. It's a merry-go-round.

These clashes of extreme organizations with conflicting viewpoints is bad news for those who don't want to be caught up in the charade.