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    #1472
    Ash.J.Williams
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    L1011 wrote: »
    No.

    I, however, know that they're pseudoscience preying on the easily lead or worse.



    What on earth are you talking about?

    If you think a polygraph works, you're an idiot.

    These were debunked decades ago - its not like its a recent thing.

    The us use them in high profile cases


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    #1473
    L1011
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    The us use them in high profile cases

    No, they don't - and they haven't done so for decades. They are inadmissible for evidence at a federal level, as they are nonsense.


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    #1474
    Ash.J.Williams
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    L1011 wrote: »
    No, they don't - and they haven't done so for decades. They are inadmissible for evidence at a federal level, as they are nonsense.

    They do


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    #1475
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    The polygraph got Chris watts

    You say only if you’re an idiot

    What is a man who kills his wife and 2 kids to run off with a fancy woman and buying a meal for two with the family bank card? A genius?


    :)

    That obviously wasn’t the only thing.WTF? It’s called evidence , that was the beginning of his downfall, for ****sake. Sad to even suggest that.


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    #1476
    L1011
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    They do

    No, they don't. They can't.

    A Netflix show is not proof that they do.


    The "science" behind these as is as solid as it is for flat earthers. Idiots one and all.


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    #1477
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    L1011 wrote: »
    No, they don't. They can't.

    A Netflix show is not proof that they do.


    The "science" behind these as is as solid as it is for flat earthers. Idiots one and all.

    Oh cause it was only ever used in a Netflix show..l. What the **** is ur problem with lie detector tests? Have u had one before or something?


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    #1478
    L1011
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    fin12 wrote: »
    Oh cause it was only ever used in a Netflix show..l. What the **** is ur problem with lie detector tests? Have u had one before or something?

    My "problem" is that the general public believing absolute pseudoscience is not good for society.

    Lie detector tests are bull****. They have always been bull**** and will always remain bull****.

    They do not work.

    You may as well believe the earth is flat or that JFK was abducted by aliens - its all the same level.


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    #1479
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    L1011 wrote: »
    My "problem" is that the general public believing absolute pseudoscience is not good for society.

    Lie detector tests are bull****. They have always been bull**** and will always remain bull****.

    They do not work.

    You may as well believe the earth is flat or that JFK was abducted by aliens - its all the same level.

    Well there is plenty of experts that would disagree with u, I doubt u are an expert in the field of polygraph tests. U basically haven’t a clue like anybody else.


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    #1480
    L1011
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    fin12 wrote: »
    Well there is plenty of experts that would disagree with u

    There aren't.

    Anyone with a financial interest in providing polygraph tests is not an expert - they're a conflicted interest.

    You won't find anyone else who thinks they're anything but bull****


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    #1481
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Oh ok so FBI conduct polygraph tests for the fun off it.

    Seriously this guy is trying to get people banned using his mod status.


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    #1482
    L1011
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    fin12 wrote: »
    Oh ok so FBI conduct polygraph tests for the fun off it.

    Seriously this guy is trying to get people banned using his mod status.

    They conduct them because idiots who think they work may confess due to the (false) belief the machine will "find out". It won't.

    I am not a mod on this forum.



    Do you think the earth is flat? Do you think the scientologists magic box can actually detect your personality? These have as much 'science' and as many 'experts' as polygraphs do.


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    #1483
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    L1011 wrote: »
    They conduct them because idiots who think they work may confess due to the (false) belief the machine will "find out". It won't.

    I am not a mod on this forum.



    Do you think the earth is flat? Do you think the scientologists magic box can actually detect your personality? These have as much 'science' and as many 'experts' as polygraphs do.

    So they do work then?


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    #1484
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    L1011 wrote: »
    No, they don't. They can't.

    A Netflix show is not proof that they do.


    The "science" behind these as is as solid as it is for flat earthers. Idiots one and all.

    A convicted murderer is a Netflix show? I’d say it’s more of a convicted murderer?


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    #1485
    L1011
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    So they do work then?

    No.

    A lightbulb with "YOU'RE LYING" painted on it that an interviewer turns on and off when they think a suspect is lying would be just as effective, and a hell of a lot cheaper.

    As a lie detector, truth detector, guilt detector or whatever - the polygraph does absolutely nothing.
    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    A convicted murderer is a Netflix show? I’d say it’s more of a convicted murderer?

    You are relying on a Netflix show as your evidence.


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    #1486
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    L1011 wrote: »
    No.

    A lightbulb with "YOU'RE LYING" painted on it that an interviewer turns on and off when they think a suspect is lying would be just as effective, and a hell of a lot cheaper.

    As a lie detector, truth detector, guilt detector or whatever - the polygraph does absolutely nothing.



    You are relying on a Netflix show as your evidence.

    No I’m relying on the video footage of his polygraph 7 hrs of it are online


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    #1487
    L1011
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    No I’m relying on the video footage of his polygraph 7 hrs of it are online


    ...which is still a TV show.

    Its not his trial.


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    #1488
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    No we aren’t relying on evidence on a Netflix show, please present ur evidence that they don’t work?


    So ****ing annoying.


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    #1489
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    L1011 wrote: »
    ...which is still a TV show.

    Its not his trial.

    CCTV is a tv show now?


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    #1490
    L1011
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    fin12 wrote: »
    No we aren’t relying on evidence on a Netflix show, please present ur evidence that they don’t work?


    So ****ing annoying.

    Present your evidence that they actually work. The burden of proof is on you - you are the one pushing the pseudoscience. TV shows and hearsay are not evidence.

    You may find having your deep-seated, wrong, beliefs challenged annoying but that's nobodies problem but your own.
    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    CCTV is a tv show now?


    You are being deliberately obtuse now.


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    #1491
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    L1011 wrote: »
    Present your evidence that they actually work. The burden of proof is on you - you are the one pushing the pseudoscience. TV shows and hearsay are not evidence.

    You may find having your deep-seated, wrong, beliefs challenged annoying but that's nobodies problem but your own.




    You are being deliberately obtuse now.

    No present ur evidence they don’t work? We have named a Netflix show where it’s worked, where is ur source that they haven’t worked


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    #1492
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Some posts deleted, anymore sniping, name calling or any other argumentative behaviour from here on will be actioned

    Just to add L1011 is a poster here NOT a mod and subject to the same rules as anyone else

    Any issues regarding this warning PM myself or another mod of this forum directly, questioning on thread will lead to a threadban


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    #1493
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    L1011, fin12, Ash.J.Williams closing thread for a few hours, tempers might settle, when i reopen any bickering will result in threadbans for you all.


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    #1494
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    After some discussion thread will remain closed, new thread may be opened in Current Affairs, be mindful of the charter there.


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    #1495
    Ten of Swords
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    New thread has been created in Current Affairs to discuss this

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115873595

    Moderator: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender, Vegan & Vegetarian

    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



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