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The Nal · 28-09-2018 3:29pm

walshb wrote: »

Yes. There is a thread here on that match..

I think Mike takes Louis out in max 2 rds. Horrible style for Louis, who was there to be hit, and who could be hurt, and was hurt and dropped by far less dangerous men.

Agree 100% yeah. Maybe sooner. Never mind the physicality. He would be mauled very badly.

walshb · 28-09-2018 4:20pm

The Nal wrote: »

Agree 100% yeah. Maybe sooner. Never mind the physicality. He would be mauled very badly.

I never understood anyone giving Louis any chance against Tyson....

How they ever thought he'd last long enough to beat him is what I always found bizarre.....

So, he lasts long enough to beat Mike, and in doing so he is able to take Mike's best shots? It's juts ludicrous......

Tysin's chin was solid and he was a wicked hitter....Louis' chin was not near solid enough to allow him take Mike into deep waters...

Mauling is really the apt word alright!

Donald Trump · 28-09-2018 11:47pm

The Nal wrote: »

Dunno.

Holyfield KO'd Douglas with ease, who had just KO'd Tyson. He stopped Tyson aswell obviously. Which is why Id have him ahead of Tyson in the all time list.

Sure what about that all-time great Kevin McBride. :pac:

Sprinter Sacre · 29-09-2018 11:08pm

Aul Robert Helenius had a good win against Teper tonight. Bit of a shame Helenius, with a better mentality and a better work ethic he really could have found some more joy. That two year absence due to promotional issued hurt him badly as he was coming along nicely. He has some tragic flaws fundamentally but is quite useful.

Sprinter Sacre · 30-09-2018 8:18pm

pac_man wrote: »

Watched a bit of this and it was dire. Teper was in awful shape.

At one stage Teper nearly wobbled himself by head butting a camera at the ring post. I thought it wasn't a bad fight, not incredibly high standard stuff but both had good moments. Helenius lack of stamina and output and Teper being wild and out of shape made it a bit of an eyesore but not the worst half hour I've spent on Boxing.

ebbsy · 02-10-2018 1:31pm

The Nal wrote: »

Dunno.

Holyfield KO'd Douglas with ease, who had just KO'd Tyson. He stopped Tyson aswell obviously. Which is why Id have him ahead of Tyson in the all time list.

Same for Lewis. Who had an unusual career, granted. A late dash for greatness. Rahman, Tyson and Vitali in his last 3 fights. Beat all the same people Tyson did and more.

Being passed it at 30 isn't really any excuse. If thats the case Wilder is well past it, as is Fury, AJ has a year left and Conor McGregor is over the hill.

There are certain criteria for a boxer to be considered as a true great and Mike didn't pass the test on any of them. I don't think thats unfair or harsh and I wish I could say the opposite but I just can't. I've no agenda here either. Football aside, hes probably the sportsman I've watched the most. Both live and old fights, docs etc.

On a side note, with all the MeToo stuff, I do find it amazing that a convicted rapist is so loved globally. Appearing on Ellen and the like. Weird one.

While I agree that Holyfield was great, Douglas was definitely not in good shape when they fought.

walshb · 02-10-2018 1:44pm

ebbsy wrote: »

While I agree that Holyfield was great, Douglas was definitely not in good shape when they fought.

He had trained little and had eaten himself overweight.

normanoffside · 05-10-2018 7:42pm

normanoffside wrote: »

Miller vs Adamek in October.

Miller weighed in at 317 lbs :eek:

He must have felt he needed the extra bulk :pac:

squinn2912 · 05-10-2018 10:04pm

Is that genuine?! Holy Lord that’s over 22 stone!

normanoffside · 05-10-2018 10:16pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

Is that genuine?! Holy Lord that’s over 22 stone!

Yes and he's up against a natural light heavy

squinn2912 · 05-10-2018 10:25pm

Hardly much need to be so heavy. He will win though but what an easy fight for aj

normanoffside · 05-10-2018 10:27pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

Hardly much need to be so heavy. He will win though but what an easy fight for aj

He looks absolutely huge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iZw9_lTZto

squinn2912 · 05-10-2018 10:33pm

Sweet Jesus! That’s the biggest pair of boxers I’ve ever seen! Doesn’t look that fat but the chest... no need

liamoreilly · 06-10-2018 7:15am

...He actually doesn't look in terrible shape for 316lbs, but have to wonder why so heavy...7 lbs lighter than Valeuv was, who is 7ft tall...

Mookie Blaylock · 06-10-2018 7:28am

No gut or excessive fat, just a big solid guy who's going to hit hard and not run around the ring.
Could make for some interesting fights in a year or 2 if he keeps progressing.

squinn2912 · 06-10-2018 7:45am

Soon as he steps up to the top guys I think he’ll get destroyed

The Nal · 06-10-2018 6:11pm

Looking forward to seeing Daniel Dubois tonight

walshb · 06-10-2018 6:19pm

The Nal wrote: »

Looking forward to seeing Daniel Dubois tonight

Knocking out some no hoper?....experience or not!

The Nal · 06-10-2018 6:27pm

walshb wrote: »

Knocking out some no hoper?....experience or not!

Just part of the build I suppose.

walshb · 06-10-2018 10:24pm

Dubois dominating the heavy bag!

normanoffside · 06-10-2018 10:28pm

Dubois looks terrible.

The Nal · 06-10-2018 10:51pm

Yup awful stuff all round. Waste of time.

normanoffside · 17-10-2018 12:22pm

A bit of a turn-up for the books that Joe Joyce has now gone to the states and Haye has signed Del Boy.

squinn2912 · 17-10-2018 2:19pm

Weird. It's not unlike Haye going to Shane - bit of profile about the move but in fairness Del Boy did brilliantly last time out. I think he's having his last big push the next L will take him into British level contention and that's where he'll stay.

normanoffside · 17-10-2018 3:56pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

Weird. It's not unlike Haye going to Shane - bit of profile about the move but in fairness Del Boy did brilliantly last time out. I think he's having his last big push the next L will take him into British level contention and that's where he'll stay.

I'm not really sure what Haye can do for him that Eddie can't though...

squinn2912 · 17-10-2018 4:37pm

Agreed. It is a curious one. Slipped my mind that he was with Eddie in the first place. That's a very odd move unless there's a fall out. You'd wonder who his next opponent will be? Can;t see Whyte bothering with him so who is a credible opponent? He's hard to match

ACAguy · 17-10-2018 8:20pm

Haye is only managing him and helping him out. Eddie is still his promoter I would imagine. He will just be getting help with Nutrition S&C and guidance which he currently needs help with

squinn2912 · 17-10-2018 9:08pm

ACAguy wrote: »

Haye is only managing him and helping him out. Eddie is still his promoter I would imagine. He will just be getting help with Nutrition S&C and guidance which he currently needs help with

Thought he looked in fair shape last day out. Haye would be a good help there though I’d imagine.

normanoffside · 17-10-2018 9:14pm

ACAguy wrote: »

Haye is only managing him and helping him out. Eddie is still his promoter I would imagine. He will just be getting help with Nutrition S&C and guidance which he currently needs help with

BBC are saying it's a promotional deal

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/45887426

ASOT · 18-10-2018 7:21am

normanoffside wrote: »

BBC are saying it's a promotional deal

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/45887426

The headline mentions promoting but the whole article says talks about managing. I think whoever wrote it was slightly confused. Eddie's still promotion him.

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