Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

seligehgit

ProudDUB wrote: »

Hmmmm. A feature length episode with Mr Shoes himself.

Don't spoil it for me, but does it start with "WHAT THE FCUK WERE YOU THINKING?????"

Nice soft interviewing technique by Mike Finnerty as is to be expected.

Presuming it was swept very quickly under the carpet as one of couple of incidents in the game that swayed it either way.:)

ProudDUB

No discount code 'till after the Tyrone game either. Savvy business man is aul Donie.

Had to laugh at him flogging Mrs BOD's shoes too. Is there no GAA WAG he could get?

Always_Running

ProudDUB wrote: »

Hmmmm. A feature length episode with Mr Shoes himself.

Don't spoil it for me, but does it start with "WHAT THE FCUK WERE YOU THINKING?????"

While he's on there to promote his own business i think its better to have him on a Mayo GAA podcast than having Willie Joe from the Mayogaablog on it who thinks he knows what he is talking about.

ureds

This Willie Joe who does the blog.....

It used to be very Intresting but he's put on a pedestal by far too many.
Unless you agree with him and his over strict moderator rules he will silence you.

ProudDUB

I used to think he was ok. Very blinkered and biased, but sure that's to be expected on every county specific site. But some of the comments he let go after the Kerry game were outrageous. There is one rule for Mayo players & another for Kerry's. Hypocrisy of the highest order imo.

It is "his" blog after all. It's not intended to be a discussion board, like this place. So he can run it any way he likes, but I lost a lot of respect for him after that.

jr86

Yeah, I enjoy the match reports which are very well written & concise, and it's a great source of information such as team news and squad updates

Whether he likes it or not though it has grown massively in popularity and with that also means it has more nationwide exposure - that is the nature of the internet. As you say the comments after the Kerry game were outrageous indeed. You just can't go around calling young players thugs on such a large platform. and there was barely a passing mention of two despicable acts by Mayo players against Galway

The comments section are a complete no-go unless you just want to profess lavish praise each time

boosabum

In fairness to the man's blog, he does moderate it under the house rules where rationale criticism is very much allowed.
As mentioned, it's a popular blog and i'm sure many people who are friends and family with players use it too, so the idea of personal criticism without warrant or fact needs to be censored.
is it biased ? Of course it is but the man himself seems to be level headed so i'd be cutting him some serious slack for the taking on the moderation himself when it would be easy to let all comments go live.

jr86

I don't mean him I mean other users on the site, plenty of whom berate anyone who posts a comment with a contrary view.

For example people torn apart for actually predicting Dublin would beat Mayo any of the last few years, others for critcising Donal Vaughan's transfer. Thankfully in real-life no-one I've ever met challenges these reasonable views to such an extent

It's far more balanced here

Blackjack

jr86 wrote: »

I don't mean him I mean other users on the site, plenty of whom berate anyone who posts a comment with a contrary view.

For example people torn apart for actually predicting Dublin would beat Mayo any of the last few years, others for critcising Donal Vaughan's transfer. Thankfully in real-life no-one I've ever met challenges these reasonable views to such an extent

It's far more balanced here

To be fair he does take a no nonsense approach with regard to trolls, something this place could take a more active approach to if I’m honest.

ProudDUB

Blackjack wrote: »

To be fair he does take a no nonsense approach with regard to trolls, something this place could take a more active approach to if I’m honest.

No he doesn't. If you are in anyway negative about a Mayo player, it is off with your head.

But comments about Dublin, Kerry, Galway players being scumbags, thugs etc etc are allowed remain up.

It is his blog and can do whatever he wants with it. Just don't go preaching the gospel of "no personal abuse" or "these are amateur players" or "their families could be reading this" when you allow people say what they want, as long as their targets aren't from Mayo. That is a double standard.

yop

ProudDUB wrote: »

No he doesn't. If you are in anyway negative about a Mayo player, it is off with your head.

But comments about Dublin, Kerry, Galway players being scumbags, thugs etc etc are allowed remain up.

It is his blog and can do whatever he wants with it. Just don't go preaching the gospel of "no personal abuse" or "these are amateur players" or "their families could be reading this" when you allow people say what they want, as long as their targets aren't from Mayo. That is a double standard.

Its an equivalent of this https://hill16army.podbean.com/ so every county has them in fairness.

ProudDUB

Ah, the good old Whataboutery counter arguement ! :P

Hill 16 can be a madhouse at times, which is why I rarely give it the time of day. Willie Joe seems to think he holds his blog to a higher standard of behaviour, posting and moderating, when he really doesn't imo. The recent Kerry/Galway games proved that. He is just as capable of letting the site get down in the muck, with everyone else, when it suits him. That is my point.

spudz murphy

Dublin have had a large slice of luck on their side in winning their matches in the last few years against Mayo. People shouldn't disregard the nature of Mayo's spirited performances against the Dubs. What will happen in the game in Castlebar on Saturday night. Mayo to force a goal inside the first 35 minutes and Mayo to edge it by 1 score at full time.

yop

ProudDUB wrote: »

Ah, the good old Whataboutery counter arguement ! :P

Hill 16 can be a madhouse at times, which is why I rarely give it the time of day. Willie Joe seems to think he holds his blog to a higher standard of behaviour, posting and moderating, when he really doesn't imo. The recent Kerry/Galway games proved that. He is just as capable of letting the site get down in the muck, with everyone else, when it suits him. That is my point.

Remove Willie Joe and insert Hill16. Not whataboutery, but its a reality. EVERY county has it. Plenty non Dublin fans banned off those pages.

Thats my point.

jr86

To be honest there's no comparison whatsoever between an All Ireland final and league match. Mayo simply don't have the squad to be in such a competitive position in the league, there's a big gap between 'league' Dublin and 'league' Mayo

I expect a much more spirited Mayo showing on Saturday, but would be lying if I said my main realistic hope wasn't keeping down the score difference

yop

spudz murphy wrote: »

Dublin have had a large slice of luck on their side in winning their matches in the last few years against Mayo. People shouldn't disregard the nature of Mayo's spirited performances against the Dubs. What will happen in the game in Castlebar on Saturday night. Mayo to force a goal inside the first 35 minutes and Mayo to edge it by 1 score at full time.

Lotto numbers for Saturday ....

Blackjack

ProudDUB wrote: »

No he doesn't. If you are in anyway negative about a Mayo player, it is off with your head.

But comments about Dublin, Kerry, Galway players being scumbags, thugs etc etc are allowed remain up.

It is his blog and can do whatever he wants with it. Just don't go preaching the gospel of "no personal abuse" or "these are amateur players" or "their families could be reading this" when you allow people say what they want, as long as their targets aren't from Mayo. That is a double standard.

That’s not true. If you justify your reason for your criticism of a player, that’s fine and per the house rules. If you don’t, it’s off with your head and rightly so.
And it’s a MayoGaa blog, not “every other county” blog. It’s hardly going to come without some element of bias towards the county in the name.

I’d suggest you take a look at some of your own county blogs to see what passes for balance there but to do that seems to be “whataboutery”.

flasher0030

spudz murphy wrote: »

Dublin have had a large slice of luck on their side in winning their matches in the last few years against Mayo. People shouldn't disregard the nature of Mayo's spirited performances against the Dubs. What will happen in the game in Castlebar on Saturday night. Mayo to force a goal inside the first 35 minutes and Mayo to edge it by 1 score at full time.

Do you remember last years league game between Mayo and the Dubs. Spirited performance? They lost by 4 goals. An I cannot see any reason why it won’t be something similar again.
The only player showing any form in the league ids doubtful, and half the regulars are missing. Think of the match-ups – Jason Gibbons versus Brian Fenton. Caff versus any number of Dublin full forwards – O’Gara, Andrews, etc. Stephen Coes v Kilkenny. And so on. I’m sorry that I have to be so negative about it, but I can only see it being one way traffic.

Dyr

What's the story with Higgins, is he just sticking with the hurling?

Oldtree

yop wrote: »

Lotto numbers for Saturday ....

I like spudz analysis...
so I'm going for the euromillions too going to be a hellof a weekend,
i'll send ye a postcard

(The fog is a secret weapon created by the houses chimneys outside of McHale and the McHale generator going at full blast.)

muddle84

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/former-afl-starlet-cian-hanley-back-in-the-mayo-fold-1.3402528?mode=amp

He's not wasting any time.......

TommyDe

flasher0030 wrote:

His form was awful at the beginning of the season. Was playing bad. Got sent off against Galway, which ultimately cost us the game in my opinion and led to the team have to graft through the lottery of the qualifiers. Form was still bad after the Galway games, and it was widely speculated that he would be dropped from the first 15. Fortunately, he clicked when it matters. Came to life against Roscommon. That’s what makes him special. He’s a big game player. He rises to challenges and shows nerves of steel. Rather than shying away in All-Ireland Finals.

You can't blame him for loosing to galway. We had enough chances after he got sent off to win/draw that game but we didn't take them.
He was really good against cork, there wasn't much he could do when that huge gaping hole opened up in front of him.
He also put in a huge amount of work during the drawn roscommon game. He was driving us forward all the time but the ball was being spilled so much in the half forward line.

Fr Tod Umptious

muddle84 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/former-afl-starlet-cian-hanley-back-in-the-mayo-fold-1.3402528?mode=amp

He's not wasting any time.......

Thanks for that bit of news.
The blog talk was taking its toll, hopefully a team will be named tonight and we can get talking about that too.

yop

Good article, some good stats and makes a lot of interesting observations

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-aidan-oshea-and-mayo-have-been-spat-on-by-many-but-they-are-lions-not-lambs-36633675.html

jr86

TommyDe wrote: »

You can't blame him for loosing to galway. We had enough chances after he got sent off to win/draw that game but we didn't take them.

It was a major turning point

We started slow but had just about got to grips with the game and were starting to cut them open and over-run them. Next thing we were down to 14 and naturally the pendulum swung back in galway's favour

Blackjack

yop wrote: »

Good article, some good stats and makes a lot of interesting observations

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-aidan-oshea-and-mayo-have-been-spat-on-by-many-but-they-are-lions-not-lambs-36633675.html

Twitter has gone all aflutter with certain fans not liking the article. Mckenna is great at putting them back in their box.

I note a comment of mine from here has been deleted but the comment I was responding to was left in place too. I wonder if mods would like to explain what was wrong with what I said, and how it differed to what I was responding to?. A pm would be fine.

TommyDe

jr86 wrote:

We started slow but had just about got to grips with the game and were starting to cut them open and over-run them. Next thing we were down to 14 and naturally the pendulum swung back in galway's favour

I get what your saying but it's too easy to blame the red card.
In the last 15minutes galway were being overrun again. COC and Reagan had 4 bad wides between them and DOC missed a great goal chance. 7 points missed in the last 15 minutes alone, in a 1 point defeat. That's the stat, not 14 v 15.

Kerry beat us with 13 men a few weeks ago because they put the ball over the bar when the chance arose.

jr86

Ah yeah I'd never blame losses on one incident really myself, matches are 70 minutes long there's always so many variables at play

Fr Tod Umptious

yop wrote: »

Good article, some good stats and makes a lot of interesting observations

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-aidan-oshea-and-mayo-have-been-spat-on-by-many-but-they-are-lions-not-lambs-36633675.html

I like McKenna, he was the only one to make an proper argument against the BS that was the rugby world cup bid.

It’s funny alright that Dublin can be lauded as the best in a generation, as well they should be, and that the team that gets closest to them be mocked.

Just last week on Terrace Talk on Radio Kerry during a discussion about Dublin the host , Timmy Moynihan, said that “Mayo are miles behind Dublin”.
Sure Timmy, that’s right, they are.

jr86

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I like McKenna, he was the only one to make an proper argument against the BS that was the rugby world cup bid.

Seems to be the only Irish journalist in general who doesn't heap nothing but lavish praise on the national rugby team, who are overhyped every single 6n campaign, and get off scott free after every bad loss (while the soccer team get pillared after bad performances)