Dublin City Marathon 29 Oct 2017 - *** NOTE: no number transfer!

youngrun

Ultraman100 wrote: »

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/competition/results/

Nothing there...!

youngrun

Chivito550 wrote: »

I hope Carrick-on-Shannon AC appeal now. Can’t have one rule for the marathon and another for the 100m. Jeremy Philips was as much of a resident here as I am in Japan! And I’m almost certain he had no passport at the time.

If Gary O’Hanlon gets upgraded, then Eanna Madden has to too.

What an absolute shambles of a situation created yet again by our governing body.

This situation re eligibility was as a result of the Vote approved by Athletics Ireland congress at which all clubs/counties vote on the rules. Its very democratic and not us and them , its up to people to get off their ass and do something concrete

if people have a problem then they need to act to change
ie Table a motion and get it voted in

Probably Multiple situations like this eg J Boit, and have ran in a lot of XCs where some teams have brought in overseas runners.

RayCun

Testosterscone wrote: »

If you are complaining about the price that is a different matter. The reason London can be much cheaper is because it receives substantially more sponsorship (not sure the figures of current deal but they previously got 17 million from Virgin for a 5 year deal between 2008 and 2013) as well as sponsorship due to being a World Marathon Major.

Also, a lot of the entries for London are charity places. Charities pay London marathon £3-400 per entry, and that subsidises the cost of the lottery/GFA/championship entries.

Murph_D

The Bin Man wrote: »

EDIT: just read on another thread that GOH has now explained he received exemption to wear his vest; time to celebrate GOH's unbelievable performance...

Well, I think you read that someone (i.e. me) said they read somewhere that that's what GOH said. Could be fake news!

average_runner

Quick question

In men's lead group, a good few of them cut the course at the UCD flyover, either up on the kerb in the middle of the road or footpath curve after it and intentionally on the second one.

What's the rule here?

healy1835

GO'H on Liveline now.....

RayCun

average_runner wrote: »

Quick question

In men's lead group, a good few of them cut the course at the UCD flyover, either up on the kerb in the middle of the road or footpath curve after it and intentionally on the second one.

What's the rule here?

I think you are allowed go over the kerb in the middle of the road. If you had to go one side or other there would be barriers, but both sides of the road are open, so both sides, plus the kerb in the middle, are part of the route.

Loads of people cut the corner on the other side of the flyover to gain what, a metre?

average_runner

RayCun wrote: »

I think you are allowed go over the kerb in the middle of the road. If you had to go one side or other there would be barriers, but both sides of the road are open, so both sides, plus the kerb in the middle, are part of the route.

Loads of people cut the corner on the other side of the flyover to gain what, a metre?

Just wondering, just wasn't sure if they had to stay on the road or not

Djoucer

average_runner wrote: »

Quick question

In men's lead group, a good few of them cut the course at the UCD flyover, either up on the kerb in the middle of the road or footpath curve after it and intentionally on the second one.

What's the rule here?

Come on. That's not cutting the course. You're still following the route.

aquinn

Djoucer wrote: »

Come on. That's not cutting the course. You're still following the route.

I'm not sure you are as the route is measured on the road?

average_runner

Djoucer wrote: »

Come on. That's not cutting the course. You're still following the route.

The second curve wasn't the course, they clearly aimed to cut on the footpath. But it seems its allowed!

robinph

The turning on Fortfield Road is where there is normally loads of people cutting the corner and would gain you quite a bit of distance. This year was the first time I've not seen anyone around me take that cut, but the numbers were quite thin still when I went round there so nobody was daring enough. That section should definitely be taped across though so that nobody is in any doubt as to which bit of road is the route.

Annie get your Run

robinph wrote: »

The turning on Fortfield Road is where there is normally loads of people cutting the corner and would gain you quite a bit of distance. This year was the first time I've not seen anyone around me take that cut, but the numbers were quite thin still when I went round there so nobody was daring enough. That section should definitely be taped across though so that nobody is in any doubt as to which bit of road is the route.

I was spectating at that corner for a while and tons of people were cutting the corner, there was on marshal there doing nothing, eventually a second came along and stopped the flow. I got there just after the 3 hour pacers went through (so after you'd gone past ).

Some of us spectating were calling over to the runners that they were cheating but they weren't too bothered...

noelearly

average_runner wrote: »

Quick question

In men's lead group, a good few of them cut the course at the UCD flyover, either up on the kerb in the middle of the road or footpath curve after it and intentionally on the second one.

What's the rule here?

The amount of kerb cutting was unreal In the 3 hour group, some people are seasoned pros at it. Particularly bad on one section I think it was in the park, one runner In front of me went from one side of the road and thru a gap on the other, when I rounded the corner I could see him about 20 metres ahead. I suppose it's down to course knowledge.

robinph

It's part of the problem of running in a big group. One person moves over to take a slightly tighter line around the next corner, the next person in feels a bit crowded out of it so move over a bit more, and the next, and the next, then the person on the inside either runs into a lamppost/ tree or has to hop the kerb. Then the people following behind see that one person took a slightly tight line so what harm if they cut a centimetre or two more and before you know it they are all running down a completely different road around that corner.

hot buttered scones

Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time
2803|echancrure|2:49:20|2:48:59|2:58:12|
9558|diego_b|3:43:41|3:39:30|3:54:53
|robinph|2:49:44|2:49:59|2:58:03
|ISOP|4:18:55|4:15:00|
3868|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|3:09:13
4514|davedanon|3:14:18|3:09:59|DNF
6501|Lazare|n/a|3:58:xx|3:58:08|
3241|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
1678|withcheeseplease|2:59:58|2:59:57|2:58:35
12429|Damo 2k9|n/a|3:59:59|3:57:57
|DC.|2:56:02|2:44:00| 2:42:29 |
12245|Dexter50|4:14:19|4:10:00|4:11:11|
4591|Wubble Wubble|3:49:01|3:29:59|
7703|RedRunner|3:52:30|4:15:00|4:13:05
|apjb82|3:35:15|3:10:00|3:12:33
|CCR|2:59:52|3:29:59|
|Peckham|2:58:27|3:44:59|
|Krusty_Clown|2:30:01|2:34:59|2:38:09
|Derco|4:16:04|4:12:59|
|Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59
10404|Unthought Known|4:16:44|3:44:59|3:41:41
3790|HibernianRunner|3:28:22|3:24:00|3:30:14
1558|Slow_Runner|3:42:26|3:33:xx|4:08:00
|Fiftyplus|3:29:45|3:29:44|
1371|Murph_D|3:28:28|3:19:59|3:22:11
|ThePiedPiper|2:49:00|3:19:59|
3364|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|3:10:20
|jaggiebunnet|3:32:39|3:24:59|
|Jakey Rolling|3:27:15|3:29:59|4:01:53
|Eric the Eagle|3:26:25|3:19:59|3:18:21
|El Caballo|3:15:29|3:11:29|
2634|Trampas|3:18:41|3:20:01|3:26:20
4143|boykev|4:00:56|3:29:30|3:31:35
1942|MisterDrak|3:07:24|3:14:00|3:13:43
|ciarraiabu1977|2:57:45|2:57:40
1322|Singer|3:32:04|3:14:15|3:14:11
|Doeshedare|n/a|3:39:59|
2855|Martyboy48|3:18:00|3:30|
4122|Brusna|n/a|3:27:59|3:29:11
|Hawkwing|3:58:30|4:59:59|5:06:20
1805|JohnDozer|3:59:13|3:39:59|3:40:14
20545|Jack Bracken|N/A|5:30:00|5:38:12
3247 |Quickfeet |3:17:30 |3:15:00|3:18:21

Singer

average_runner wrote: »

Quick question

In men's lead group, a good few of them cut the course at the UCD flyover, either up on the kerb in the middle of the road or footpath curve after it and intentionally on the second one.

What's the rule here?

I was watching some of the live stream afterwards, and they also cut onto the path coming out of the Phoenix Park.

They didn’t clamber over the cobbles at the Monument on Chesterfield Ave though, which I did!

martyboy48

Singer wrote: »

They didn’t clamber over the cobbles at the Monument on Chesterfield Ave though, which I did!

Same as that, although I was kinda sheparded over them. If I had space I'd probably have ran around as I hate those surfaces for fear I'd twist an ankle or something....

Anyways, last night I signed up for 2018 just to get it out of the way ☺
Noticed they are doing it for €70 for first 7000 entries, €80 for the next 7000, and €90 for the rest.... was it always like this or was it by date???

RayCun

martyboy48 wrote: »

Noticed they are doing it for €70 for first 7000 entries, €80 for the next 7000, and €90 for the rest.... was it always like this or was it by date???

it was by date

Arsenium

It must be a sign that they think it will sell out quickly? I reckon theyd be afraid all 20K spots would be gone at 70 euros before the date for the price increase hit.

Or maybe there's a totally different reason for it. Where's my credit card....

Annie get your Run

martyboy48 wrote: »

Anyways, last night I signed up for 2018 just to get it out of the way ☺

Likwise :eek::eek::eek::eek::D

Spirogyra

I could not really afford to stay in Dublin again, hotel accommodation gone crazy, I paid E199 ' room only' which was actually a bargain considering some prices I saw later.

If I run another marathon, big if, it'll be one close to home....I live 'in the West'.

robinph

Spirogyra wrote: »

I could not really afford to stay in Dublin again, hotel accommodation gone crazy, I paid E199 ' room only' which was actually a bargain considering some prices I saw later.

If I run another marathon, big if, it'll be one close to home....I live 'in the West'.

A hostel did me fine, not like I was spending a lot of time there and whilst it wasn't the greatest nights sleep ever it never really is the night before a marathon so didn't matter a huge amount.

I also got the joy of noisily rustling the kit bag in the morning as I left the room which I'm sure the hungover people there appreciated.

Krusty_Clown

Spirogyra wrote: »

I could not really afford to stay in Dublin again, hotel accommodation gone crazy, I paid E199 ' room only' which was actually a bargain considering some prices I saw later.

If I run another marathon, big if, it'll be one close to home....I live 'in the West'.

This conversation is not really relevant to the Dublin Marathon thread (Try consumer affairs?), but lots of accommodation options around the start/finish line on AirBNB for less than €80.

S.L.F.

RayCun wrote: »

it was by date

martyboy48 wrote: »

Same as that, although I was kinda sheparded over them. If I had space I'd probably have ran around as I hate those surfaces for fear I'd twist an ankle or something....

Anyways, last night I signed up for 2018 just to get it out of the way ☺
Noticed they are doing it for €70 for first 7000 entries, €80 for the next 7000, and €90 for the rest.... was it always like this or was it by date???

Thats gas, theres greed for you and they wont have transfers or postponement.

I'm waiting for all the wealthy boards crew to defend them :rolleyes:

Singer

S.L.F. wrote: »

Thats gas, theres greed for you and they wont have transfers or postponement.

I'm waiting for all the wealthy boards crew to defend them :rolleyes:

Greed? Where exactly do you think the money goes?

It's simply not exceptional to pay for a race and not be able to defer or transfer a registration. Very few races in Ireland, or similarly sized marathons in Europe, allow for these.

Murph_D

Don’t get sucked in, B!

ger664

S.L.F. wrote: »

Thats gas, theres greed for you and they wont have transfers or postponement.

I'm waiting for all the wealthy boards crew to defend them :rolleyes:

Yes there is greed involved. Dublin City Marathon is too expensive but if you dig a little deeper you will find out that its not BHAA/DCM that are pocketing your non refundable entry,

S.L.F.

Murph_D wrote: »

Don’t get sucked in, B!

haha sucked in, what are you talking about...this is what you live for!

You love nothing better :pac:

Spirogyra

S.L.F. wrote: »

haha sucked in, what are you talking about...this is what you live for!

You love nothing better :pac:

Yes Insurance is no doubt colossal. I do think cost of accomodation in Dublin is relevant. But I won't be there again anyway,so less so to me in the future☺.