UFC 212 Holloway v Aldo Sat 3rd June

Gamebred

Not draining enough too make him stop throwing them altogether its his bread and butter through his career, I think the writing was on the wall when Mendes re arranged his face and dropped him twice, that fight took lumps out of him.

Swashbuckler

Yeah maybe. The accumulation of Mendes and Conor fights maybe. Still doesn't explain why he's given up on the kicks. Or how he did so well against Frankie.

qwabercd

riffmongous wrote: »

Great, now get Frankie in there asap

Not overly excited by this. Different style of fighter but he fell well short against Aldo.

Swashbuckler

qwabercd wrote:

Not overly excited by this. Different style of fighter but he fell well short against Aldo.

Would love to see that fight. It's really the only fight to make at FW.

Richard tea

Absolutely delighted for max. Didn't Conor say jose will never be the same again after their fight. Guess he had a point.

xtal191

Will never happen but if I was Aldo I'd be following Gadelha and Barao out of Nova Uniao.

As mentioned earlier the Brazilians are falling behind, he's still only 30 and the only way I see Aldo improving is by moving camp.

EagererBeaver

Edgar clearly the only contender at FW. They've never fought, no reason to not make the fight. Everything Holloway has said or done suggests he'll take on anyone so can't see him having any problem with it. There's not much left for Holloway at FW - defence or two and he'll move up I think.

darced

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mdwexford

Was rooting for Max so happy he got the win.

Aldo was winning the fight up till the stoppage. Whether that was Max purposely starting slow because Aldo usually slows a bit in the latter rounds in a possibility. The shot that dropped him was accurate but didn't seem powerful. Maybe his chin isn't what it used to be.

He had plenty of chances to get back to his feet and once he didn't pop up the way he usually does I knew he was done. Can't just lie there getting tagged giving the odd thumbs up for 3 minutes and expect to see out the clock. Stoppage was fully justified imo.

Edgar will be an interesting opponent for Max. His tireless work rate and takedowns will pose a different challenge. Aldo just had Frankies number but vs anyone else at 145 he's been dominant.

I agree Conor would smoke Max based on last night though. Once he connects it's lights out. We need the Notorious one back in the octagon.

qwabercd

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Would love to see that fight. It's really the only fight to make at FW.

Agreed it's the fight to make, just don't think the division is hugely interesting any more.

Ultimate Seduction

Aldo threw 11 leg kicks in his last 5 fights, Don't know why people are Suprised he didn't throw any last night. He either hurt it before or got scared after seeing Anderson Silvas leg break.

Delighted for Max, he will become the greatest FW of all time if he beats Frankie.

Brussels Sprout

EagererBeaver wrote: »

There's not much left for Holloway at FW - defence or two and he'll move up I think.

I'd love to see him fight Tony Ferguson although I wouldn't fancy his chances in that matchup.

riffmongous

qwabercd wrote: »

Not overly excited by this. Different style of fighter but he fell well short against Aldo.

And he's destroyed everyone else, quite a few people wrote him off for his last fight against Yair and he smoked him. Aldo is the only guy who has ever made Frankie look ordinary

Gamebred

riffmongous wrote: »

And he's destroyed everyone else, quite a few people wrote him off for his last fight against Yair and he smoked him. Aldo is the only guy who has ever made Frankie look ordinary

Pmsl many times did Maynard have him on queer st? even Stephens nearly kicked his head into oblivion not long ago, Max will destroy him with ease.

riffmongous

Gamebred wrote: »

Pmsl many times did Maynard have him on queer st? even Stephens nearly kicked his head into oblivion not long ago, Max will destroy him with ease.

And every time he was hit he came back and he eventually knocked him, hardly an ordinary fighter :rolleyes: You honestly think Holloway will destroy him with ease, something no one has ever done? I'm pretty sure you were one of the ones who thought Yair would KO Frankie, how did that work out for you

GerryDerpy

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Delighted for Max, he will become the greatest FW of all time if he beats Frankie.

When you say greatest of all time, do you mean based on his excellent win streak? Or do you mean on the balance of everything, he is the greatest featherweight?

Because if it is the latter, surely you can't claim Max is a better FW than McGregor?

And I wouldn't even use the defeat to McG against him, long time ago and all that. Both have evolved. Still think Max doesn't have the attributes to beat McGregor.

Gamebred

riffmongous wrote: »

And every time he was hit he came back and he eventually knocked him, hardly an ordinary fighter :rolleyes: You honestly think Holloway will destroy him with ease, something no one has ever done? I'm pretty sure you were one of the ones who thought Yair would KO Frankie, how did that work out for you

Nope I hoped he would ko edgar theres a difference, there is every chance Holloway will murder Edgar considering he gave Aldo the worst hiding of his life last night, Edgar is an o.g of the game but he will have nothing but a few failed takedown attempts for Max before hes finished eventually, will have a bet for charity on the fight with you when its made should you fancy one.

riffmongous

Gamebred wrote: »

Frankie to be slept by a capoeira kick here

That's hoping huh?

Gamebred wrote: »

Nope I hoped he would ko edgar theres a difference, there is every chance Holloway will murder Edgar considering he gave Aldo the worst hiding of his life last night, Edgar is an o.g of the game but he will have nothing but a few failed takedown attempts for Max before hes finished eventually, will have a bet for charity on the fight with you when its made should you fancy one.

What are you betting on, that Frankie loses or gets destroyed with ease, or even finished? But yeah go on, 50 quid, charity of choice.

Gamebred

riffmongous wrote: »

That's hoping huh?


What are you betting on, that Frankie loses or gets destroyed with ease, or even finished? But yeah go on, 50 quid, charity of choice.

Ah come on you're reaching now going back searching for quotes and that was the best you could find a comment with capoeira ko ffs :pac:


No just winner of the fight 50e goes to charity of winners choice, hope its in New York on GSP Bisping undercard Nov time.

riffmongous

Gamebred wrote: »

Ah come on you're reaching now going back searching for quotes and that was the best you could find a comment with capoeira ko ffs :pac:


No just winner of the fight 50e goes to charity of winners choice, hope its in New York on GSP Bisping undercard Nov time.

Hardly, I remember being surprised at the time by people writing off Frankie so easily, but considering you're backing down now on your destroyed with ease stuff maybe your weren't being serious there alright.

Winner is grand, PM whenever it happens

Gamebred

Aldo Cub 2 is the fight to make next for Jose.

EagererBeaver

Gamebred wrote: »

Aldo Cub 2 is the fight to make next for Jose.

I'm not sure Jose will be back but a 155 fight against Khabib would be unreal.

0byme75341jo28

I think Aldo could retire tbh, don't think he has the mentality to build himself up.

sonofenoch

Avalynn Tasty Bugle wrote: »

I think Aldo could retire tbh, don't think he has the mentality to build himself up.

I think so too....there's a touch of the Ronda Rousey wobbles about him

Gamebred

He came back from the most embarrassing loss probably in mma history, he will be back from this wreck someone and then could retire on a win I think.

ricero

Gamebred wrote: »

He came back from the most embarrassing loss probably in mma history, he will be back from this wreck someone and then could retire on a win I think.

Reckon he may face cub swanson next. Im sure cub would want to erase his quick loss to aldo

Amazingfun

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

I'd love to see him fight Tony Ferguson although I wouldn't fancy his chances in that matchup.

God no, I think Max would be murdered tbh, and there are so many delicious fights for Tony before that, don't you think? At least I hope so, can't wait to see him again :-)

wonderfullife

Ronda and Jose share something in common:

They were dominant against certain types of opponents but the game evolved past them.

Jose looked exceptional against Frankie at UFC 200 but Frankie is a short wrestler. He looked great against Chad in the rematch. Another wrestler. Great against Faber. Short wrestler.

MMA striking evolved past the likes of Hominick and Florian. Guys like Conor and Max (and Holly and Amanda) use better footwork, better movement, better timing, better use of angles and distance.

Aldo is still a phenomenal fighter and if you throw him any typical featherweight or lightweight wrestler with an overhand I'd be backing him to win. I.e. throw him an Edgar or an Alvarez and he'll take them apart over 5 rounds.

He was once the elite striker at the lower weight classes but the striking game has gone by him.

The best thing the UFC can do now for Aldo is to give him Cub Swanson again and rebuild his confidence.

finglashoop

wonderfullife wrote: »

Ronda and Jose share something in common:

They were dominant against certain types of opponents but the game evolved past them.

Jose looked exceptional against Frankie at UFC 200 but Frankie is a short wrestler. He looked great against Chad in the rematch. Another wrestler. Great against Faber. Short wrestler.

MMA striking evolved past the likes of Hominick and Florian. Guys like Conor and Max (and Holly and Amanda) use better footwork, better movement, better timing, better use of angles and distance.

Aldo is still a phenomenal fighter and if you throw him any typical featherweight or lightweight wrestler with an overhand I'd be backing him to win. I.e. throw him an Edgar or an Alvarez and he'll take them apart over 5 rounds.

He was once the elite striker at the lower weight classes but the striking game has gone by him.

The best thing the UFC can do now for Aldo is to give him Cub Swanson again and rebuild his confidence.

Aldo is infinitely more rounded and skilled than ronda

darced

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