Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

Feisar

Cass wrote: »

I've said it before but its worth repeating. We have to stop asking how stupid can people be/get as some are taking it as a challenge.

The congressional prayer ended yesterday with the words "Amen and Awomen".

The ignorant fool does not realise that Amen is Latin and the Awomen is a meaningless pander to seem like they are being gender equal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymL0gqnjrJY

Ah no, yer taking the pistachios. I'm not much of a scholar but we knew from primary it meant "so be it".

tudderone

Just listening to some daft cow on the telly going on about "Grease", the film being all sorts of wrong, sexist, racist etc, and then she went on to say that things like Dads army and Only fools and Horses are beyond the pale too.

We are definitaley leaving reason and logic behind for hurt feelings.

Feisar

BattleCorp wrote: »

This will sound quite strange but the way the world is going and with the level of stupidity rising very fast, I'm actually quite glad that I've over half my life lived at this stage. I'd hate to be a child born into today's world.

I've an 18 month old and I wonder what sort of world he's going to have to try and navigate. I know change is normal however the speed it's happening at due to the internet is mental. Anyone with a bonkers thought now that can screech loud enough and get a bunch of head-the-balls to shout with them is right. Anyone who tries to apply logic is shouted down as some sort of phobe or other. Then you have our politicians pandering to appear woke.

tudderone

Feisar wrote: »

I've an 18 month old and I wonder what sort of world he's going to have to try and navigate. I know change is normal however the speed it's happening at due to the internet is mental. Anyone with a bonkers thought now that can screech loud enough and get a bunch of head-the-balls to shout with them is right. Anyone who tries to apply logic is shouted down as some sort of phobe or other. Then you have our politicians pandering to appear woke.

Its not only that a group have similar ideas, its they constantly try to out-flank each other, "you are to the left, but i am more to the left than that, so i am more righteous". Sooner or later there will be a backlash, the pendulum swings both ways.

Grizzly 45

Cass wrote: »

I've said it before but its worth repeating. We have to stop asking how stupid can people be/get as some are taking it as a challenge.

The congressional prayer ended yesterday with the words "Amen and Awomen".

The ignorant fool does not realise that Amen is Latin and the Awomen is a meaningless pander to seem like they are being gender equal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

I despair as to what the Hell is going on in Congress. Nothing else to worry about in the country,or the world in general,with covid,people going tits up, mimature dictatorships in Michigan,California,New York city and state and others China and all the rest...What's the first bill from CRAZY Nancy Pelosi, who got elected for a 4th term this weekend?...GENDER PRONOUNS!!! Trump is dead right to call her bat sht crazy :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
https://newspunch.com/nancy-pelosi-bans-gender-terms-like-mother-daughter-father-son-in-new-congress-rules/

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

I despair as to what the Hell is going on in Congress. Nothing else to worry about in the country,or the world in general,with covid,people going tits up, mimature dictatorships in Michigan,California,New York city and state and others China and all the rest...What's the first bill from CRAZY Nancy Pelosi, who got elected for a 4th term this weekend?...GENDER PRONOUNS!!! Trump is dead right to call her bat sht crazy :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
https://newspunch.com/nancy-pelosi-bans-gender-terms-like-mother-daughter-father-son-in-new-congress-rules/

San Francisco based Pelosi...................enuff said :rolleyes:

Kranob

I’m hopeful that things will go full circle and all this “woke” bull**** will be a thing of the past, although I expect to be long dead by then.
A good saying I came across lately and it does ring true I believe.
“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

Rows Grower

Kranob wrote: »

I’m hopeful that things will go full circle and all this “woke” bull**** will be a thing of the past, although I expect to be long dead by then.
A good saying I came across lately and it does ring true I believe.
“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

Tough times don't last, tough people do.

Easier to remember.

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

San Francisco based Pelosi...................enuff said :rolleyes:

This is what happens to you if you pander to the loons long enough.Pelosis house was grafittied and a pigs head was left in front of her garage.
Aw well.so long as her gourmet ice cream and 20 K worth of fridge is okay.:rolleyes:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9105277/Speaker-Pelosis-house-VANDALIZED-red-paint-pigs-head-message-2-000-checks.html

Mississippi.

Cass wrote: »

I've said it before but its worth repeating. We have to stop asking how stupid can people be/get as some are taking it as a challenge.

The congressional prayer ended yesterday with the words "Amen and Awomen".

The ignorant fool does not realise that Amen is Latin and the Awomen is a meaningless pander to seem like they are being gender equal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymL0gqnjrJY

Did that really happen though or was the video edited?
Could they really be that silly?

Cass

Its been reported on multiple media platforms, main stream media and all the "ancillary" outlets too. So yes, they are that stupid.

Its not just them. Trudeau in Canada a couple of years back with his "peoplekind" comment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLfIPiqbRRs

Congressman Hank Johnson thinks an island will tip over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11X0Cl2f7Dg

Of course this braying idiot is the gift that keeps on giving:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XavQ4Y9p4ig

Closer to home, just across the water we have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Syo86gsHk

Back home we have this donut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wrYQ24x2UM

Or perhaps this plagiarizing unelected former leader :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SEJdJ0bf0w

As Napoleon Bonaparte once said "In politics, stupidity is not a handicap".

tudderone

Kranob wrote: »

I’m hopeful that things will go full circle and all this “woke” bull**** will be a thing of the past, although I expect to be long dead by then.
A good saying I came across lately and it does ring true I believe.
“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

The older generations of Irish ? Certainly. The newer generation ? :rolleyes:.

My grandparents (both sets) were born in the 1910's, lived through some very difficult times, WW1, the rising, the depression of the 30's when people were actually hungry, WW2 etc, and all had natural B.S. meters built-in.

Pure crap like what pro-nouns to use and all that, Police in the UK ringing people up, even though they hadn't committed a crime, but posted something on bookface and telling them to "check their thinking", would have had them up in arms.

But i think the western world is going like the last days of the Roman Empire, heading down the gurgler with decadence, weird sexual behaviour, drug taking, and soulless lives.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

This is what happens to you if you pander to the loons long enough.Pelosis house was grafittied and a pigs head was left in front of her garage.
Aw well.so long as her gourmet ice cream and 20 K worth of fridge is okay.:rolleyes:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9105277/Speaker-Pelosis-house-VANDALIZED-red-paint-pigs-head-message-2-000-checks.html

San Francisco is bad, but Portland is a complete open air nut house. The looney leftie mayor Ted Wheeler thought he was down with the (antifa) kids, but they decided he wasn't leftie enough for them and attacked him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVyJiav5mA

BattleCorp

tudderone wrote: »

But i think the western world is going like the last days of the Roman Empire, heading down the gurgler with decadence, weird sexual behaviour, drug taking, and soulless lives.

I think I'm missing out. No decadence, weird sexual behaviour or drug taking. What am I doing wrong?

Cass

tudderone wrote: »

The looney leftie mayor Ted Wheeler thought he was down with the (antifa) kids, but they decided he wasn't leftie enough for them and attacked him.

I find it "odd" that he declares the riots as being not about blm or protesting not only because they are now targeting him, but since biden won. This has been going on since June and he [the mayor] ordered the police, back then, to stand down even when cop cars, police stations and public buildings were being burned and targeted.

It was only a matter of time until they started to eat their own.

Grizzly 45

WOW! Washington DC is lighting up!! "Pro-Trump protestors" have stormed the Capitol building,they breached the security,are in Nancy Pelosi's office reading here emails and hair do appointments. :rolleyes:

Just now a woman possibly another person has been shot dead in the Capitol building by the Capitol police force:eek::eek: Are these the shots that will be heard around the World again?

Cass

Bigger wow, both Georgia senate seats have gone from Republican control to Democrat control meaning the Democrats have control of the white house, congress (led by Pelosi) and now the senate (led by Schumer).

There won't be another congressional or senate election until 2022 so it'll be interesting to see what biden does with this. He won't have unlimited ability to ake drastic changes, but can do a lot of damage between now and then based on his election promises (which are reported as having been broken already).

Mellor

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

WOW! Washington DC is lighting up!! "Pro-Trump protestors" have stormed the Capitol building,they breached the security,are in Nancy Pelosi's office reading here emails and hair do appointments. :rolleyes:

Just now a woman possibly another person has been shot dead in the Capitol building by the Capitol police force:eek::eek: Are these the shots that will be heard around the World again?

They broke into the capitol building (first wave was let in tbf). I’m surprised more weren’t the shot.
Can’t imagine somebody getting right up and into the speakers chair in the chambers during other protests.

Funniest part was a “revolutionary” crying into a news camera because she got pepper sprayed when trying to push in. Guess snowflakes come in red as well as blue varieties these days.

The harsh reality is that these people and most people are just sheep following the agenda fed to them.

Mellor

Cass wrote: »

Bigger wow, both Georgia senate seats have gone from Republican control to Democrat control meaning the Democrats have control of the white house, congress (led by Pelosi) and now the senate (led by Schumer).

There won't be another congressional or senate election until 2022 so it'll be interesting to see what biden does with this. He won't have unlimited ability to ake drastic changes, but can do a lot of damage between now and then based on his election promises (which are reported as having been broken already).

Yeah, that was a huge swing. I fully expected Reps to solidify it.
There’s a strong suggestion that Trump’s antics damaged the GOP chances in a big way. Expect the GOP to him to damage condo mode now or else they risk being on the losing side for a long time.

Trump pressuring Pence to breach his role, and act illegally in regards to electoral college votes was insane. Pence now public breaking ties with Trump. Greater than 0% chance we see the 25th enacted before inauguration.

Munsterlad102

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

WOW! Washington DC is lighting up!! "Pro-Trump protestors" have stormed the Capitol building,they breached the security,are in Nancy Pelosi's office reading here emails and hair do appointments. :rolleyes:

Just now a woman possibly another person has been shot dead in the Capitol building by the Capitol police force:eek::eek: Are these the shots that will be heard around the World again?

The absolute hypocrisy of the media, calling BLM "peaceful protestors" and Trump supporters "rioters" and screeching for nearly 4 years about election fraud for Trump but say any fraud this time are "bogus claims". Really goes to show the f*cking state of the media today.

BattleCorp

I'd a WhatsApp row with one of my woke cousins in America last night/this morning. They were spouting on about what was going on last night and when I asked what's the difference in this and what the BLM crowd are doing, she got thick and said they weren't remotely the same.

I agreed with her. The trump supporters aren't looting.

She's not talking to me now. ha ha.

BattleCorp

Mellor wrote: »

Trump pressuring Pence to breach his role, and act illegally in regards to electoral college votes was insane. Pence now public breaking ties with Trump. Greater than 0% chance we see the 25th enacted before inauguration.

I'm not a Trump supporter but what has he done in the last week to warrant trying to oust him using the 25th Amendment?

The only think I can see is that he's crapped on about election fraud but he's been doing that for 6 months now.

Cass

There is a conspiracy theory about the Dems using the 25th to remove him because they "know the election is false and a big surprise is coming".

In my opinion that is crap. Not the election part the big surprise part. As off this morning, yesterday actually, the election is certified and thats a done deal.

What the Dems are doing is simple. They didn't have the votes to fully impeach Trump the last time, but now they might just in the senate. While they only have a two seat majority and it requires a two thirds for impeachment there are a number of Rinos who have openly criticised the President and may just side with the dems.

So what is the point of the 25th if he is out of office in two weeks? Precedent. No President has ever been removed from office using the 25th Amendment and as a final "f**k you" to Trump the Dems want to stick this to him.

With Pence sensing the changing winds, the Rinos now being safe to openly jump ship, and the Dems having both houses and the white house they might, and a I stress might, just be able to squeeze him out.

Cass

Just as a side note i'm watching SKY news (otherwise known as liberal central) and they are laying on thick the way this past few days, even weeks, have been the worst in American history is laughable when they defended the terrorist blm and antifa riots that are still going on to this day and how they never laid those riots at the feet of any democrat.

That is not a Trump supportive point its an observation on the sickening double standards the media shows. They openly lie such as calling the Republican objection to the election results in congress as unprecedented. The Dems done the same thing in 2016 with Trump, in 2004 and 2000. And its not just about America. We are getting this on all sides about all topics.

The vaccine. We get hours of footage of people getting injected and being lauded for it. Why not cover the problems with the vaccine. I don't care how small they may be just let people know and let them make up their own mind.

RTE news refusing to show any coverage of the recent shooting or the racist calls for revenge and violence from the family of the guy that was put down. Reminds me of CNN doing the same thing, editing footage to push their agenda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drn0Lg5gIRc

I've said before that years ago the news gave you the facts and allowed you to make up your own mind, but now they tell you what you should be thinking and if you disagree then you're the problem.

Mellor

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

The absolute hypocrisy of the media, calling BLM "peaceful protestors" and Trump supporters "rioters" and screeching for nearly 4 years about election fraud for Trump but say any fraud this time are "bogus claims". Really goes to show the f*cking state of the media today.

The majority of BLM were peaceful. But a subset used it as an excuse to riot and loot. Scotes bandwagon IG, as happens everywhere. we all seen videos of those people clashing with police.

I’m sure most people today turned up intending to protest outside peacefully. Genuinely think they did. But as soon as a group forced their way inside a government building it’s no longer peaceful.
The guys who turned up with premade petrol bombs were not peaceful. Two pipe bombs were allegedly discovered, if that’s true then we’re into domestic terrorism.

For me, I care more about real life actions, not labels in the media. And my biggest eye opener was how lax the police were at the capitol building initially vrs at BLM protests. I think that’s mainly as the national guard were called in for BLM. But the initial wave today was essentially let pass the secure line.

If guy was seen openly (and illegally) carrying a handgun while rioting at BLM, he’d probably be arrested on sight, or worse. Yet that’s what was happening today. It’s getting ridiculously out of hand, these people are miles in the wrong.

Mellor

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'm not a Trump supporter but what has he done in the last week to warrant trying to oust him using the 25th Amendment?

The only think I can see is that he's crapped on about election fraud but he's been doing that for 6 months now.

Banging on about potential fraud prior to the ejection is raving, par for the course. Noting illegal afaik.

Since the ejection he has made numerous false claim on lines and the media. It’s somewhere between embarrassing and insane. The POTUS openly lying cannot be normal or ok.
He called a meeting with the military to discuss a potential coup. Seriously.
Encouraging Pence to delay certification, break the law, and send the votes back to th states. Pence can’t do that. Trumps grip on reality is slipping. Condoning the riots in DC (which led to his social media being suspended).

I haven’t always agreed with Trump. I’ve openly criticised his mistakes. But he won the 2016 election fair and square, he is the president.
But for the last 2 months, he’s increasingly looked unfit for office.

Cass wrote: »

There is a conspiracy theory about the Dems using the 25th to remove him because they "know the election is false and a big surprise is coming".

I’m no an expert on the 25th. But afaik it has to be instigated by the White house and Trumps own cabinet. The reports are that they have met to discuss it.

Cass

Mellor wrote: »

I’m no an expert on the 25th. But afaik it has to be instigated by the White house and Trumps own cabinet. The reports are that they have met to discuss it.

It does. I discussed this back when Trump was impeached the first time and how it would not pass the senate. Shortly after the election Pelosi held talks among the Democratic party about using the 25th and i said then it wouldn't happen as it requires the VP and Trump's cabinet to get done. It requires a letter/declaration by the VP signed by the majority of the cabinet/executive branch and presented to congress and the senate.

Even back then i was firm in my belief it would never happen, and frankly i still think its "too late" to happen now, but if it did and Pence decided to go that route, along with Trump firing basically everyone, and then coupled with recent events in Georgia the Dems would have an easy time of it.

If it were to happen it may not be done in time before the inauguration but as said above it would be the final middle finger to Trump the Dems so badly want to give him. Of course there would be no VP for the remaining time, but i doubt anyone would consider trying to fill that position and as a new VP would require senate approval and the Dems have that now.

tudderone

Mellor wrote: »

Banging on about potential fraud prior to the ejection is raving, par for the course. Noting illegal afaik.

Since the ejection he has made numerous false claim on lines and the media. It’s somewhere between embarrassing and insane. The POTUS openly lying cannot be normal or ok.
He called a meeting with the military to discuss a potential coup. Seriously.
Encouraging Pence to delay certification, break the law, and send the votes back to th states. Pence can’t do that. Trumps grip on reality is slipping. Condoning the riots in DC (which led to his social media being suspended).

I haven’t always agreed with Trump. I’ve openly criticised his mistakes. But he won the 2016 election fair and square, he is the president.
But for the last 2 months, he’s increasingly looked unfit for office.



I’m no an expert on the 25th. But afaik it has to be instigated by the White house and Trumps own cabinet. The reports are that they have met to discuss it.

The Dem's banged on long and hard over Russian interference when Trump beat that clinton creature in the last election, despite there being no evidence . It also amazes me how the media pounches on one of them, Trump having a fling with a porn star, two consenting adults, and yet let Biden away with all sorts of creepy carry on with very young people and kids, hair sniffing, letting kids touch him in a swimming pool etc. Maybe that will change when he finally gets into the oval office, but i won't hold my breath.

The media don't seem overly concerned with bidens son's carry on either, can you imagine the melt down there would have been if it was Trumps son doing dodgy deals in Ukraine will coked out of his skull ?

tudderone

Mary lou favorite to be the next Taoiseach, what you think ?


https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/mary-lou-mcdonald-boylesports-taoiseach-19577122

Cass

Never happen.

Sinn Fein will never be able to get the majority so that she could become Taoiseach, but if by some miracle it did happen i'd hate to see it. I know i criticised FF and FG (although they're the one party now) but the alternative in my mind is a far cry from SF lead coalition or God forbid a SF majority.

They are far, FAR, from the nationalist party they once were and are doing more pandering to the radical left ideology and socialist type agenda than most others and that includes those that call themselves socialist.