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How do people survive on wages close to minimum wage?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Speling is onle importint when ewe du owt ur kurikulem vetay.

    Dnt bee mindin dem luv.

    Xox

    u ok hun, wha wud day no anal!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    So you hate ambitious people? Unless you get a degree, or a trade your not building a career for yourself.

    i don't hate anyone, i hate the attitude! you're doing computer science, fair play but not everyone has the aptitude. just worry about yourself!

    do you plan on leaving Ireland to get your €80k salary? what field do you plan on working in?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    s4uv3 wrote: »
    What the fcuk does the title mean? Or is it my basic level degree that's holding me back from understanding it?

    It is the lack of lateral thinking caused by a stifling education which values rote learning and regurgitation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    The thread title makes no sense.

    You make no sense!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    I agree. I'm not exactly helping my case with my grammer. I'm on my phone though tbh.

    Grammar


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,120 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    thierry14 wrote: »
    Or about OP showing some humility!

    Actually finishing his degree, getting his 80k salary before looking down and judging people on minimum wage

    Presuming they are uneducated

    OP you could be on minimum wage too after college, many are

    He's missed the bit where the chap in centra has earned 180k while he's reading books and dreaming what he'll do 5yrs after college when he's got 80k before tax.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Grammar

    must be a Nokia...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Computer Science, I'm specialising in softwared development.
    Completely unrealistic for 80k after 5 years, I'm in the industry 20 years and 120k would most likely be the max I would get in Dublin with Big Data experience etc. etc. maybe with some extra perks, car, shares etc.

    Just saying, I got into software dev because I love it and still do after 20 years, long hours though, you need to like it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    He's missed the bit where the chap in centra has earned 180k while he's reading books and dreaming what he'll do 5yrs after college when he's got 80k before tax.

    the guy in Centra makes 80k selling dodgy yokes to gullible students....


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,247 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    i hate this attitude. college isn't for everyone and you're not guaranteed a good job afterwards at all these days. everyone has a degree now.

    A degree is the new leaving cert.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    thierry14 wrote: »
    Try 35-45k if your lucky

    It's all about certification

    Certifications are so 2010, It's all about your public GitHub now.

    If someone thinks he will bet getting 80k after 5 years then he's underestimating as the effort to get that would be the same as being a millionaire on paper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    snowflaker wrote:
    the guy in Centra makes 80k selling dodgy yokes to gullible students....


    The beauty of it is that's before AND after taxðŸ˜ðŸ˜


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,714 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    thierry14 wrote: »
    Try 35-45k if your lucky

    Senior software engineers are struggling to get 80k with certifications galore

    Degree doesn't mean **** in software development

    It's all about certification

    You'll put the real work in then

    Also entrepreneurialism and luck. Over 15 years out of computer science degree and one lad is worth a fortune through his own business and another while not stinking rich is very well off but that was initially through luck in getting work experience in a company he knew very little about and then specializing in a very niche area. None of my actual college friends are on that kind of money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭boardie100


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    Completely unrealistic for 80k after 5 years, I'm in the industry 20 years and 120k would most likely be the max I would get in Dublin with Big Data experience etc. etc. maybe with some extra perks, car, shares etc.

    Just saying, I got into software dev because I love it and still do after 20 years, long hours though, you need to like it

    120k ! contracting right?...


  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭apieceofcake


    snowflaker wrote:
    You make no sense!

    I make perfect sense. You're up too late snowflaker


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,247 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Fecking Phone.

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    endacl wrote: »
    A degree is the new leaving cert.

    a red honour and 4 passes!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭circadian


    I admire your optimism for €80k after 5 years as a software dev. You'll need to specialise and be exceptionally amazing at it to get that return.

    Or inflation, who knows?

    I'm curious, what language/field would you specialise in? Big Data is where the money is at despite a large number of companies having no idea what they could use the information for. Solve that problem and you'll be wiping your arse with rolls of €100 notes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭annettea


    I'm on minimum wage, have a college degree , also single mum with childcare and house expenses. Surviving just about but is achievable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    I'm on >€100k per annum, and I'd burn you all on this thread to be 21 again and on €25k per annum. ALL of you. ALL OF YOU.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Certifications are so 2010, It's all about your public GitHub now.

    If someone thinks he will bet getting 80k after 5 years then he's underestimating as the effort to get that would be the same as being a millionaire on paper.
    Agree with this, certs are junk and a money scam by Oracle/M$/Cisco etc. as they're expensive and you have to redo them every few years.

    Github/apache project committers are generically the current best to have


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    The minmum wage is a disgrace. Clear just over 350 after tax. Hoe on earth can one survive on that especially in a city like Dublin. The tax payer yet again foots the bill with schemes like FIS instead of employers paying there workers a living wage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    I make perfect sense. You're up too late snowflaker

    Should be asleep! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    The minmum wage is a disgrace. Clear just over 350 after tax. Hoe on earth can one survive on that especially in a city like Dublin. The tax payer yet again foots the bill with schemes like FIS instead of employers paying there workers a living wage.

    Hoe? Its a disgrace Joe! Useless garden equipment!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    circadian wrote: »
    I admire your optimism for €80k after 5 years as a software dev. You'll need to specialise and be exceptionally amazing at it to get that return.

    Or inflation, who knows?

    I'm curious, what language/field would you specialise in? Big Data is where the money is at despite a large number of companies having no idea what they could use the information for. Solve that problem and you'll be wiping your arse with rolls of €100 notes.

    Not English anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Hoe? Its a disgrace Joe! Useless garden equipment!

    What?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    I'm on >€100k per annum, and I'd burn you all on this thread to be 21 again and on €25k per annum. ALL of you. ALL OF YOU.

    You can't buy youth I'm afraid, unless you can clone dead foetus cells and use them to regenerate your own body...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    The minmum wage is a disgrace.

    Yeah, everyone should be on €80k per annum. Problem solved. Why hasn't anyone ever thought of this before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭is this username available


    80k is possible after 5 years if you get into the right company after graduation, build experience and go contracting. Need to really enjoy the job, keep learning and be willing to put in the hours.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    What?

    hoe1
    həʊ/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a long-handled gardening tool with a thin metal blade, used mainly for weeding


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