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How do people survive on wages close to minimum wage?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    Computer Science, I'm specialising in softwared development.

    Being able to spell software would be a good start. Employers note that sort of thing. I know I do.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Its tough, but doable.

    I can understand setting a budget and sticking to it, but what about the unexpected emergencies or bills that pop up - must drown people, I really don't know how they do it. A holiday must be a dream as are most luxury goods. I know money and possessions are not everything - so much is now basically considered normal. Fair play to anyone doing it I really can't imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    I was on my phone.

    I wouldn't send a message to a colleague or clients without proof reading,

    Thats €80k material right there.

    Youre hired!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    Don't judge the happiness of your life by the money in your pocket

    Enjoy your youth revel in it

    It passes in a flash

    I understand that, but if you don't have money how do you enjoy your youth? If your friends are going abroad, socialising multiple times a week, buying cars ect and you have no money, you also miss out because of the lack of money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Zascar wrote: »
    I wonder that myself. €400 a week, €1600 a month, less tax - how do you pay rent, bills, food... and the rest...

    Live within your means. People on the dole live on half that.

    The trouble is people want everything, like the OP mentioning mortgages, not everyone has to buy a house & if you do want one it should be within your means not where you want it to be

    People are too greedy now, they want all they see when they can't afford it but think they should have it all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    Being able to spell software would be a good start. Employers note that sort of thing. I know I do.

    Are you conducting an interview now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    Computer Science, I'm specialising in softwared development.

    Try 35-45k if your lucky

    Senior software engineers are struggling to get 80k with certifications galore

    Degree doesn't mean **** in software development

    It's all about certification

    You'll put the real work in then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Don't be worring about what other people are doing, it's their life choices, good luck to them.
    You know what you want to do, you have your targets, so just go do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    bmwguy wrote: »
    You can't have a mortgage, a new car, kids,holidays and a social life on top of savings and pension funding on 400 a week but you can have some of them and be happy.

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    Being able to spell software would be a good start. Employers note that sort of thing. I know I do.

    I agree. I'm not exactly helping my case with my grammer. I'm on my phone though tbh.


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Someone should start a new thread without the spelling mistakes. Is this about living on minimum wage or Op's potential wage?


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    What the fcuk does the title mean? Or is it my basic level degree that's holding me back from understanding it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    OP gonna be a billionaire!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    I was on my phone.

    I wouldn't send a message to a colleague or clients without proof reading,

    Excuses excuses.. :D I was only jerking your chain anyway. I've no idea how anyone makes sense on a phone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭PaulKK


    Computer Science, I'm specialising in softwared development.

    I'm a developer and have been for 9 years.

    The amount of grads who say they'll be on 80/90/100k in 5 years is hilarious.

    I know some very talented guys in in their 40s who have been developers since gradation who aren't on that kind of cash. Its not because they are bad negotiators either.

    In fact, you'll find that kind of money is at the very top end of what's generally achievable without some niche specialisation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,118 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I understand that, but if you don't have money how do you enjoy your youth? If your friends are going abroad, socialising multiple times a week, buying cars ect and you have no money, you also miss out because of the lack of money.

    Who needs money when you have a bag of yokes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭tastyt


    Not everyone needs to earn or can earn 80k per year. If thats your ambition in life then fair play to you, you dont have to turn into a condescending asshole at the same time though


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    You'd be surprised.

    Not much good in Dublin or some of the urban areas, but in a more rural area it's doable.

    A couple on 500 or so gross each would have a fair chance of buying a 150k house.

    150k house in the sticks would be usually a 4 bed.

    If kids come along, there's a fair chance Granny might take the sting out of childcare costs.

    Don't go mad on new cars of foreign holidays & you'd do okay in the long run.

    What I don't understand is how anybody can afford to buy a half decent house in Dublin.:eek:

    Really. What kind of money would you want to be on?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    s4uv3 wrote: »
    What the fcuk does the title mean? Or is it my basic level degree that's holding me back from understanding it?

    Some existential shyte I presume


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    i hate this attitude. college isn't for everyone and you're not guaranteed a good job afterwards at all these days. everyone has a degree now.

    So you hate ambitious people? Unless you get a degree, or a trade your not building a career for yourself.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Kev1001


    Computer Science, I'm specialising in softwared development.


    When you finish college you will probably end up in a graduate program. You will earn around €25k a year for the first couple of years. Quick google search tells me that a Senior Software Engineer earns €60k a year.

    €80k might be more than 5 years away.... but it isn't out of reach long term. You'll get there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    I agree. I'm not exactly helping my case with my grammer. I'm on my phone though tbh.

    Speling is onle importint when ewe du owt ur kurikulem vetay.

    Dnt bee mindin dem luv.

    Xox


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    I'm on my phone though tbh.

    No excuse. It's as easy to spell correctly using a phone as using a keyboard. Though when you get your 80k job you can pay someone to do all your typing for you! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    i hate this attitude. college isn't for everyone and you're not guaranteed a good job afterwards at all these days. everyone has a degree now.

    Thats a poor attitude. Even if its common to have a degree now doesn't mean you shouldn't still try to get one, its an advantage when looking for a job. Also not all degrees are made equal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    Who needs money when you have a bag of yokes.


    That explains the gay baboon Google search!!


    (I thought it was brilliant btw:-))


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Kev1001 wrote: »
    When you finish college you will probably end up in a graduate program. You will earn around €25k a year for the first couple of years. Quick google search tells me that a Senior Software Engineer earns €60k a year.

    €80k might be more than 5 years away.... but it isn't out of reach long term. You'll get there.

    Oh you can see plenty earning more than that but it depends on the specialisation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    Zascar wrote: »
    Someone should start a new thread without the spelling mistakes. Is this about living on minimum wage or Op's potential wage?

    Or about OP showing some humility!

    Actually finishing his degree, getting his 80k salary before looking down and judging people on minimum wage

    Presuming they are uneducated

    OP you could be on minimum wage too after college, many are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    davo10 wrote: »
    Are you conducting an interview now?

    You're always interviewing, always selling davo10. It's the 21st century. Connected, turned on, wired. Be there or be square. Message me, we can do brunch.

    Or some such crap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭apieceofcake


    The thread title makes no sense.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    So you hate ambitious people? Unless you get a degree, or a trade your not building a career for yourself.

    The only ambition I like is Blonde Ambition. Good Album.

    Money=!ambition


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