December 2017 babies club

bee06

donkey10 wrote: »

Yeah it is unfortunate with the dates. I think he will just be too old starting school at 5 years and 8 months (if he had to do the 2 years of pre school) but I suppose it wouldnt be the end of the world

They do seem to say older is better to start school. I feel like 4 and 8 months will be too young. I’d prefer him to be the oldest in the class than the youngest. He’s very articulate etc but it’s the social skills piece that concerns me.

donkey10

bee06 wrote: »

They do seem to say older is better to start school. I feel like 4 and 8 months will be too young. I’d prefer him to be the oldest in the class than the youngest. He’s very articulate etc but it’s the social skills piece that concerns me.

Yeah totally understand what you mean. I'd be afraid that if he thought he was the eldest that he wouldnt have to "work" as hard or would be a "know it all".

Maybe I am wrong but I think kids these days have a totally different attitude to when we were kids

shesty

I'll be honest, I.am at the 4/5 year old end of this and as someone said last night....you will never regret sending them a bit old, but there is a strong chance you will regret sending them too young.And this seems to be particularly true for boys.

My daughter is a JI and her class have started turning 6 since Christmas.They were the first group to have 2 ECCE years available to them, and it really shows the difference.A good JI teacher will recognise it and push them on in school, as I am seeing now.

I know there are people who think sure throw then in, they will be grand, and I know Dec is a borderline month.But don't be afraid to give them another year if you think they need it socially and emotionally.Don't worry about how many letters or numbers they know, they aren't a measure of anything at that age.

OREGATO

Hi folks, just wanted to ask how much your toddlers are sleeping at night time now, we've been having a pretty rough time with sleep - as per this thread https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058044099

Our little one is a December 2017 baby. She normally sleeps between 1 to 1.5 hours in creche and we put her down at 7pm and we are up by 7am. The past 2 months have been really difficult for us with sleep issues and the past few weeks, we're finding she's awake until 7.30/8pm before she falls asleep.

We typically start the bedtime routine at 6.50 and try to have her in bed for a story by 7.10. But lately she's been bouncing and running around her cot not showing signs of wanting to sleep at all. We do see her rubbing her eyes the odd time around 6pm but when we put her in the cot that evening, she will be wide awake and running around the cot.

I know that not all kids are the same but I'd be interested to hear what your toddler sleep times are like.

bee06

I could only dream of a 7.30 bedtime. My little boy has a 1.30 to 2 hour nap during the day and doesn’t go to sleep until 9. Awake then between 6 and 6.30 every morning. He sleeps all night at the moment but due a 2nd in a month so expecting everything to go haywire when that happens as I’ve been told that’s quite common.

cherryghost

8pm sleep, 8am wake, uninterrupted, or if she wakes up in the middle of the night she goes back down by herself. Basically been like since birth (we were doing midnight feed ofc)

Pocos

Hi all

Thanks for all advice regarding the free year!

People were mentioning time for kids to start primary! Obviously every child is different but keep in mind what age they will finish school too! As a secondary teacher I see more 18/19 years old in 5th and 6th years and drinking socialising more important than leaving cert! Good kids getting distracted! Also if they go at 5 years 8 months there isn’t too much room for repeating years?!

Anyway that’s just another consideration but I do think every parent knows their own child best!

Also for those January babies (jan 2nd here!) we miss out by a few day starting the free years until next September 2021! The crèche my LO goes to says one year of the ECCE is fine!!!

BUT with the January birthday it will stand to them for sport so I’ve been told

heldel00

^^^ primary teacher here. Daughter is 11 Jan. She will def just do one year and will go to school at 4y 9mo. Every child is different but people are very hung up on the idea of two years ECCE. A couple of years ago children only got one year and before that maybe nothing at all.
April May would be cut off IMO to wait until the following year.

Milly33

Oh god I havent even thought of school yet.. To be honest it horrors me as I would be one of those who well I get creche but schools im like mmm.... Going to have to look into the ecche scheme once we figure out where to live..

Regarding the sleep doesnt sound like a nice time oregato.. I know you mentioned it all started during the storms, howth it like kite flying or something. Like herself goes out and i tell her to catch the wind and she loves it, just to play around... Sleep routine is defo importan t i think to get them to sleep, i try to have herself ready to go to bed by 8 (that does not work all the time)but on ideal days we would wind her down from 7ish onwards, then up by half seven to get changed and brush teeth then into bed for 8.

Now she has been a nightmare for a few weeks takes three more visits to get her to sleep sorry I have to stop typing as the keyboard is gone mad, but maybe tis just a phase with your little one

shesty

Pocos wrote: »

Hi all

Thanks for all advice regarding the free year!

People were mentioning time for kids to start primary! Obviously every child is different but keep in mind what age they will finish school too! As a secondary teacher I see more 18/19 years old in 5th and 6th years and drinking socialising more important than leaving cert! Good kids getting distracted! Also if they go at 5 years 8 months there isn’t too much room for repeating years?!

Anyway that’s just another consideration but I do think every parent knows their own child best!

Also for those January babies (jan 2nd here!) we miss out by a few day starting the free years until next September 2021! The crèche my LO goes to says one year of the ECCE is fine!!!

BUT with the January birthday it will stand to them for sport so I’ve been told

Repeating years is very rare these days unless there is a very serious problem,I believe.They won't let you do it just for age, unless there are very serious developmental issues there.It's not like it was when we were kids!

heldel00

shesty wrote: »

Repeating years is very rare these days unless there is a very serious problem,I believe.They won't let you do it just for age, unless there are very serious developmental issues there.It's not like it was when we were kids!

I think Poco meant repeating leaving cert?

Pocos

shesty wrote: »

Repeating years is very rare these days unless there is a very serious problem,I believe.They won't let you do it just for age, unless there are very serious developmental issues there.It's not like it was when we were kids!

Shesty I’m talking about secondary school repeating and college etc!! Doing your LC at 19 doesn’t give much options was all I was saying! But it’s up to every parent themselves

donkey10

My little lad goes down to sleep between 8 and 8.30ish in his own cot. He awakes during the night maybe around 1/2am and then I just bring him into my own bed as I am working the next day and cannot wait up to put him back to sleep.

He sleeps then until 6.30ish. I have to be up then for work anyway.

Funny, I was off for 2 weeks at xmas and he slept the whole night in his own cot. It wasnt as if he had later bedtimes but maybe it was beccuase i was with him all day! The minute I went back to work then the same thing happened again with waking up over night

shesty

Pocos wrote: »

Shesty I’m talking about secondary school repeating and college etc!! Doing your LC at 19 doesn’t give much options was all I was saying! But it’s up to every parent themselves

Sorry, I picked that up wrong, I am tired!
Actually I don't see anything wrong with repeating at older years, plus better age for the college social life, and often a more mature age to manage the hands-free college approach (assuming the repeats are almost always to get into a college course of some sort).However depends on the child as you say!

Pocos

shesty wrote: »

Sorry, I picked that up wrong, I am tired!
Actually I don't see anything wrong with repeating at older years, plus better age for the college social life, and often a more mature age to manage the hands-free college approach (assuming the repeats are almost always to get into a college course of some sort).However depends on the child as you say!

Very true too! It’s the 18 year olds in 5th year wanting to head out and drink and get distracted!!! That’s where I see issues in school! At least when they are turning 18 in 6th year they are a little more focussed! But every child is different and parents and rules will be different in every house! But if I had a 19 year old sitting their LC they would not want to repeat at 20 is all?!

But I think if we send at 4 they are 18 in the December year of LC! (That’s if they do 4th year!)
Sending at 5 will Mean they will be 18 January of fifth year and 19 in January of LC!

Look the whole schooling system could be different by then! I personally think 18 doing LC is nice as they will be 18 for college but not super old! Also big difference between boys and girls!

But as always parents have to make that call!

Regarding sleep our LO goes to bed at 8ish asleep by 8.30 usually and then wakes between 7-8 am!
But we cosleep with her so no idea If she would do that solo! She’s in a bed not a cot! Always hated the cot
Always been a rubbish sleeper but this way we all get sleep! Currently due baby number two so not gonna try anything new that will jeopardise sleep!!!

Milly33

How is everyone going with activities for their kids, outside the house?We have been stuck for a while as the weather has been so bad and while we normally go to the woods etc we were looking at indoor things. We took her to the aquarium today and she loved that, but was thinking of something like the jump lanes has anyone tried it in Galway..

Milly33

Yeah turns out they must be five, I thought she would be alright with it but nope.. Thought I was onto a good one there yeah that the thing here the kids things I must say are pretty crap.. There are lots of pet farms but sure if tis raining that bad tis no fun... Ah would love to go splashing in puddles even myself haha the good old memories

heldel00

Can any of ye recommend a scooter bike trike type thing for little girl? She's lost trying to follow big bro round while he whizzes past her on tractor.
She's quite slight and very cautious so would need to be something that her feet could touch floor on and preferably something that she could manoeuvre around on by herself.

Just to add we have a balance bike and smart trike. Has anyone any experience of scuttlebug?

Milly33

We havent got to the stage where ye are now, but would like to know for the future...We have the multi trike ones from smyths and find that great, she goes in it with the barrier part still around her,but she does not use the peddles sounds like it might be something more advanced ye need..

shesty

Chillafish trikes/balance bikes?Have seen them, they look quite good.Google them and you will see, Smyths have them.

heldel00

Had a big response typed and lost it.
Ended up getting scuttlebug XL. Very sturdy. Feet are almost to the floor but in a week or two she'll be flying.

Pocos

Hi all ,

Just wondering has anyone dropped the daytime nap yet? We don’t do it some days as LO starting to fight it!

Also anyone started toilet training yet? Or any advice on when it should start?

Thanks

bee06

Pocos wrote: »

Hi all ,

Just wondering has anyone dropped the daytime nap yet? We don’t do it some days as LO starting to fight it!

Also anyone started toilet training yet? Or any advice on when it should start?

Thanks

My little boy dropped his nap about 6 or 7 weeks ago just before his sister arrived. He will occasionally still sleep in the middle of the day if he’s wreaked but most days no nap. The evenings are tough because he’s wreaked so early. He has fallen asleep eating his dinner at 5.00 some days.

My fella definitely isn’t ready for potty training. There are signs of readiness like telling you they are going to pee before they do, hiding to poo, able to pull their pant up and down themselves. There are others as well that I can’t remember. He’s actually doing some of these bit not the first one ever so I’m going to wait another few months. No rush for us anyway.

Milly33

We are the same here with the naps.. She knocked it back from around 1 to 2.00 if she does go...Now the last few days she has skipped it, but sometimes I put her up just for even half and hour to rest as she still needs it...

We have tried her on the loo, and have a potty out (which I so hate) but she does enjoy sitting on it.. We havent really pushed her to use it, but have said to use the potty if she needs to go.

It has been great with the nice weather lately as she loves not having the nappy on and in fairness to her she has great control so we have left her without the nappy in her togs and just put the potty where she can see it. She has not had an accident in ages without the nappy on so I think she is nearly ready ..

Thinking of bee06 comments she has started doing these things like she knows how to take her clothes off, and pulls off the nappy and all that when she wants too, loves not having one on...

heldel00

We tried it for a day and I just knew she wasn't ready so we decided to leave it. Our oldest was a dream to train and he was 2 and a half so I'm going to give her the same chance.

Pocos

Hi all thanks so much for all the quick responses! First baby here and we just had another 4 weeks ago so I may leave Toilet training for a while! Might be too much change too soon! She’s been great with baby sister so I don’t want to rock the boat!

Ok the naps are the same here some days she takes it and some days she doesn’t! Can be hard not to get the break but as someone said bedtime is much quicker than! So I dunno hard to know when you want the break!

Weather is def helping and maybe when outside on a sunny day I may leave nappy off just to give her a feel for what it’s like without nappy! But as people say no rush yet!

Milly33

congratulations Pocos I hope the birth went great for ye, it must have been scarier with the times that are here... But congrats..

One thing and I rem saying I would never put her in a bikini but well just the pants so far, but they are good for getting them used to knickers or being able to pull them down

yourdeadwright

Milly33 wrote: »

We are the same here with the naps.. She knocked it back from around 1 to 2.00 if she does go...Now the last few days she has skipped it, but sometimes I put her up just for even half and hour to rest as she still needs it...

We have tried her on the loo, and have a potty out (which I so hate) but she does enjoy sitting on it.. We havent really pushed her to use it, but have said to use the potty if she needs to go.

It has been great with the nice weather lately as she loves not having the nappy on and in fairness to her she has great control so we have left her without the nappy in her togs and just put the potty where she can see it. She has not had an accident in ages without the nappy on so I think she is nearly ready ..

Thinking of bee06 comments she has started doing these things like she knows how to take her clothes off, and pulls off the nappy and all that when she wants too, loves not having one on...

My little one is still napping usually 2-3 but she is an anti Christ when she wakes up,
Iv no idea why , the last month the afternoons has been tuff on the OH at home with them mainly because of her waking up in foul form , takes a good hour or two to get back to normal ,

We have also started potty training, she is doing ok but I think till be a month or two before we lose the nappy altogether,

iv found girls are actually ore interested and excited in losing the nappy than there brothers ever where ,or could just be our house

Milly33

oh no, shame about her being hellish.. Maybe tis a phase or something and she will pass through it. Mind they can be so annoying phases that is only very sometimes the kids...

bee06

yourdeadwright wrote: »

My little one is still napping usually 2-3 but she is an anti Christ when she wakes up,
Iv no idea why , the last month the afternoons has been tuff on the OH at home with them mainly because of her waking up in foul form , takes a good hour or two to get back to normal ,

We have also started potty training, she is doing ok but I think till be a month or two before we lose the nappy altogether,

iv found girls are actually ore interested and excited in losing the nappy than there brothers ever where ,or could just be our house

My fella’s the same if he has a nap. I thought it was because I was walking him (he’d sleep for 3 hours if I let him) but he woke himself yesterday and had an absolute melt down soon after. It’s a case now of do I want a cranky 2 year old in there afternoon after the nap or one in the evening before bed. I can’t win!