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December 2017 babies club

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Not taking it personally is defo a good one, i was getting really annoyed that i put in all this effort and she was not eaten it..Like cooking a gourmet meal and then someone going for a McDonalds


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,133 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Herself now basically eats what we eat, but we sneak some more greens into her meals and she still devours it thank god. We've done partially homemade pizzas, bought pizzabase then added our down toppings and she loved it. I gave her a spoon to spread passata and add her own cheese to it too, was super fun.

    That being said my mother gave her Pringles over Christmas and goes running for the tins in Tesco, causing a scene because I sure as hell ain't buying any.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭Milly33


    She herself was like that and now tis nope... Laughing at lunch she actually ate Koka noodle! Im just like right.. Himself was having them for lunch and she asked to try and loved them. he just gave her some of the plain noodles, tis the oddest thing but sure ill try her again on noodles and maybe she will like them..

    Have pizza bases on my list for the next shop or maybe pittas might do will try them too thanks.. Oh god i can just see it in Tescos haha, those pringles are yummie in fairness but so so bad all in moderation


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,896 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Milly33 wrote: »
    Not taking it personally is defo a good one, i was getting really annoyed that i put in all this effort and she was not eaten it..Like cooking a gourmet meal and then someone going for a McDonalds

    It's true and sure they haven't a clue.All they see is that mammy says I REALLY HAVE to eat this and there's no more surefire way to get a toddler to go in the opposite direction!!!!
    I get fed up trying to keep it healthy all the time and to find something they all eat without cooking 3 different dinners, but sure all you can do is keep trying and hope it will all work out!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭Milly33


    well tis like she knew we were talking about her and has been trying lots of differant foods this weekend, including a mouthful of baking flour! Very funny this evening we gave her some fish and chips (homecooked) and she wanted to eat the fish in chunks like her dad was
    funny to watch, she was looking at him to see how he was eating his and copying...

    Have just about got the house back to normal today after christmas, one more room to go and a pile of clothes herself has outgrown and himself has outgrown and then I came across the dreaded potty.. Has anyone thought about training? Id be delighted to stop having to buy nappies anymore


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  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    Hi all

    We have a fussy enough eater on our hands! She literally eats three types of dinners, fish pie, lasagne and chicken pie! Very poor to try new foods! We keep putting them in front of her but she’s very slow to try anything new ! Any suggestions how to change this? Will eat fruit no problem which is at least something

    Oh the potty! Thinking maybe summer to try and train! New baby due in April so I’m trying to avoid around then so not to upset her more or put too much on at one time so I’m hoping summertime will make things easier!
    Anyone else even make an attempt yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Oh wow congratulations to ye!!! Very exciting times ahead so..Is this your second or do you have more than one?

    At least pies are good and she is eating something solid... Going to try herself with a noodle dish today and see how she goes... Such a loverly morning here hoping we get out for a nice stroll to the woods it has been far too long..

    I have just put her on the big loo (really did not want to use a potty but got one as a gift) and she has no problem with it, but she has never gone to the toilet as such on it... Was trying to tackle the soother the last few days so might just concentrate on that or now.. I still laugh at my sis telling me about her boys training them the stories


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    I would have thought it’s a bit early for potty training? My fella is nowhere near ready anyway. Maybe in the summer when I’m on maternity leave.


  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    Hi all,

    Havent been on this thread in a while!

    Congrats to those all due new babies :-)

    I've been thinking about pre-school enrolement lately. I have my fella enroled to start in September 2020 - he will be 3 years and 8 months at that stage. I just think he might be too young to start this September - he would be only 2 year and 8 months.

    I was only going to send him for a year so that he would be starting school when he is 4 years and 8 months.

    Has anyone anyone opinions/thoughts on this?

    Thanks in advance :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭Anne_cordelia


    donkey10 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Havent been on this thread in a while!

    Congrats to those all due new babies :-)

    I've been thinking about pre-school enrolement lately. I have my fella enroled to start in September 2020 - he will be 3 years and 8 months at that stage. I just think he might be too young to start this September - he would be only 2 year and 8 months.

    I was only going to send him for a year so that he would be starting school when he is 4 years and 8 months.

    Has anyone anyone opinions/thoughts on this?

    Thanks in advance :-)
    We did the same as you and it worked perfectly for us. I found the younger kids (aged 2 olds) starting playschool with her were more difficult to settle, struggled with toileting and were wrecked. It’s not like creche as there is learning and cooperation required with their peers so my own opinion is that 2+8 was too young. There was no disadvantage to only doing one year or anything.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    I have a December 2015 baby who is in ecce this year. He could have started last year but he was too young. He wasn’t toilet trained, but even aside from that, I didn’t think he was ready. I tried to start him last April and he went a bit nuclear so had to drop it. He went in no bother in September, he was well ready. He will start JI next year. (My eldest only had one ecce year too, that’s all that was funded at the time, so that’s what most kids did).
    There’s a couple of girls in the preschool now who are a year younger, and they can’t manage the full week, only 3 or four days, because they’re wrecked after it.
    I’m sure some kids are fine starting at that age, but you know your own best, there’s no disadvantage to only having one year!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,896 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Having seen it with family I would say no.Especially not if they are all in a room together, so the 3 and 4 year olds all in one.They just don't have the language and social ability to cope with the bigger kids at 2 and 8 months.They are way too tired to get through a whole week of it too, and then toilet training can go either way at that age too.

    1 year of preschool is no disadvantage - or 2, and a start in school at 5, nothing wrong with that either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    shesty wrote: »
    Having seen it with family I would say no.Especially not if they are all in a room together, so the 3 and 4 year olds all in one.They just don't have the language and social ability to cope with the bigger kids at 2 and 8 months.They are way too tired to get through a whole week of it too, and then toilet training can go either way at that age too.

    1 year of preschool is no disadvantage - or 2, and a start in school at 5, nothing wrong with that either.

    I might be mistaken, but I think that if they wanted to wait and start school a year later at 5 and 8 months, they’d have to pay for the second year of pre-school


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,896 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I was under the impression that funding was in place until 5.5...which should cover up to the June of the second year.But that can be clarified, I couldn't swear to it.

    Edit: I checked, end date would be June 2022 for a Dec 2017 baby.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    shesty wrote: »
    I was under the impression that funding was in place until 5.5...which should cover up to the June of the second year.But that can be clarified, I couldn't swear to it.

    Edit: I checked, end date would be June 2022 for a Dec 2017 baby.

    I think it’s a crazy system. Parents should be able to choose (within reason), which two years to send their kids. The babies with birthdays at the very beginning/end of the years could often do with starting earlier/later. My guy is Dec, and my best friends girl Is five weeks younger. Last year she paid for a full year of preschool, while we didn’t use ours. They’ll both start school the same time, but I could easily have needed to hold off a year with school, and then I’d have been paying for ecce next year, even though I hadn’t availed of the first year? It’s mad!


  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    OSI wrote: »
    Have our little lad enrolled for this September. It does seem young, but I think it will be great for him. You can see it in him when he's out about now that he's looking to interact with kids his own age so I'm hoping he'll love it.

    What age will he be? I'm just worried my fella will be too tired with 5 days a week ! PLus he isnt potty trained which I am hoping to tackle this Summer :-/


  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    jlm29 wrote: »
    I have a December 2015 baby who is in ecce this year. He could have started last year but he was too young. He wasn’t toilet trained, but even aside from that, I didn’t think he was ready. I tried to start him last April and he went a bit nuclear so had to drop it. He went in no bother in September, he was well ready. He will start JI next year. (My eldest only had one ecce year too, that’s all that was funded at the time, so that’s what most kids did).
    There’s a couple of girls in the preschool now who are a year younger, and they can’t manage the full week, only 3 or four days, because they’re wrecked after it.
    I’m sure some kids are fine starting at that age, but you know your own best, there’s no disadvantage to only having one year!

    Its hard to know really at this stage as most places need to have them booked in. Plus my lad isnt potty trained and he needs to be. I would be in favour of doing the 2/3 days a week but can they do this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    jlm29 wrote: »
    I think it’s a crazy system. Parents should be able to choose (within reason), which two years to send their kids. The babies with birthdays at the very beginning/end of the years could often do with starting earlier/later. My guy is Dec, and my best friends girl Is five weeks younger. Last year she paid for a full year of preschool, while we didn’t use ours. They’ll both start school the same time, but I could easily have needed to hold off a year with school, and then I’d have been paying for ecce next year, even though I hadn’t availed of the first year? It’s mad!

    How do you check this out to see what they are entitled to or avail of?
    There are two sessions in the place I will be sending him - so year 2 of preschool is separate to year 1.
    The primary school i am sending him to is the same one so if I just send him to one year of preschool he will more than likely be going in on him own (he wont have known the year 2 pre schoolers).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    I have my little boy down for this Sept at the moment. Still in two minds about it but he doesn’t go to crèche so I do think some socialisation is needed. I’m going to be off on mat leave as well so toilet training in the summer if he’s ready and I’ll worry about it closer to the time and see how he’s getting on. Planning on doing toddler groups etc while I’m off as well to give him more exposure to kids his age.

    It’s so stupid that as parents we don’t have control over what 2 years they have for the ECCE. Even children of the same age can be so different.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    donkey10 wrote: »
    How do you check this out to see what they are entitled to or avail of?
    There are two sessions in the place I will be sending him - so year 2 of preschool is separate to year 1.
    The primary school i am sending him to is the same one so if I just send him to one year of preschool he will more than likely be going in on him own (he wont have known the year 2 pre schoolers).

    They can start from when they’re 2 and 9 months, for two years. So a December baby can start the September they are two, and do their second year when they are 3 and 9 mo, starting school the following year. If you google it you’ll find a chart or something


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    donkey10 wrote: »
    Its hard to know really at this stage as most places need to have them booked in. Plus my lad isnt potty trained and he needs to be. I would be in favour of doing the 2/3 days a week but can they do this?

    In our preschool you can’t go part time, you take a full place. I think it’s the same everywhere but not certain. I know plenty parents just don’t send them a couple of days a week, but as far as I know the school have money taken back from ecce for missed days


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,896 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Some smaller schools might come to an arrangement with you for 2 or 3 days a week for a few months.All you can do is ask!


  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    jlm29 wrote: »
    They can start from when they’re 2 and 9 months, for two years. So a December baby can start the September they are two, and do their second year when they are 3 and 9 mo, starting school the following year. If you google it you’ll find a chart or something

    I get what you mean - I must check this out. I am just missing out as he is a January baby and only 2 years and 8 months this September. Maybe they can pay for the extra month though would it work out that way?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    donkey10 wrote: »
    I get what you mean - I must check this out. I am just missing out as he is a January baby and only 2 years and 8 months this September. Maybe they can pay for the extra month though would it work out that way?

    No, if he’s a jan baby, he can’t start his free years until the following year, so when he’s 3 and 8 months. If you want him to start when he is two, you will pay for the full year


  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    I just checked there and for a Jan 2018 birth date, the ECCE start date is 1st Sept 2021 and 1st Sept 2022 so the end date is June 2023.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2459ee-early-childhood-care-and-education-programme-ecce/

    The above are the dates for anyone interested.


  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    jlm29 wrote: »
    No, if he’s a jan baby, he can’t start his free years until the following year, so when he’s 3 and 8 months. If you want him to start when he is two, you will pay for the full year

    I just checked out the enrolement dates in my post above and it says for a Jan baby start date is 2021. I must check out with the preschool what the story is


  • Registered Users Posts: 304 ✭✭coffeyt


    Just popped in here and can say for certain that a January born baby will not be allowed to start the free ECCE the September before they turn 3.
    My daughter is a late December baby and started play school at 2 and 8 months, (she was the youngest by about 5 months) they allowed her to attend 3 days a week and once she was 3, I upped her days. (This option would be specific to each play school so you would need to check). She is now in her 2nd year and had no problems, in fact she thrived there.
    Having said that she was extremely articulate at a young age and her older brother was attending the same play school for her 1st year so she had him there with her every day so that also helped her.

    Alternatively a friend of mine has a little girl whose birthday is 3rd January, (she is 10 days younger than my daughter) andstarted play school at the same time as the school advised she should be fine as she was so close to the cut off date.
    However 6 weeks after starting she was advised that they had been turned down for the free ECCE year for her and they had the option of paying for the year or removing her. So it seems as if they are very strict unfortunately on the cut off dates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    coffeyt wrote: »
    Just popped in here and can say for certain that a January born baby will not be allowed to start the free ECCE the September before they turn 3.
    My daughter is a late December baby and started play school at 2 and 8 months, (she was the youngest by about 5 months) they allowed her to attend 3 days a week and once she was 3, I upped her days. (This option would be specific to each play school so you would need to check). She is now in her 2nd year and had no problems, in fact she thrived there.
    Having said that she was extremely articulate at a young age and her older brother was attending the same play school for her 1st year so she had him there with her every day so that also helped her.

    Alternatively a friend of mine has a little girl whose birthday is 3rd January, (she is 10 days younger than my daughter) andstarted play school at the same time as the school advised she should be fine as she was so close to the cut off date.
    However 6 weeks after starting she was advised that they had been turned down for the free ECCE year for her and they had the option of paying for the year or removing her. So it seems as if they are very strict unfortunately on the cut off dates.

    This happened a friend of mine also. It was the first year where the rules changed from 3 entry points to one, and the playschool told her she’d be grand (early jan birthday), and then at a later date came on with the bill. I think that the school can’t share a place between two kids, so if a child is attending part time they’re actually in a full time place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    We recently moved county and I have my daughters name down for the local playschool, we have an info day tomorrow week and should find out shortly after that if she gets a place. She will be one of if not the youngest going if she does get a place but I think she will be ok. I hope to toilet train soon and shes talking in full sentences for 6 months so hope she will be ok.

    If not I guess we can pull her out and try again a few months later?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    coffeyt wrote: »
    Just popped in here and can say for certain that a January born baby will not be allowed to start the free ECCE the September before they turn 3.
    My daughter is a late December baby and started play school at 2 and 8 months, (she was the youngest by about 5 months) they allowed her to attend 3 days a week and once she was 3, I upped her days. (This option would be specific to each play school so you would need to check). She is now in her 2nd year and had no problems, in fact she thrived there.
    Having said that she was extremely articulate at a young age and her older brother was attending the same play school for her 1st year so she had him there with her every day so that also helped her.

    Alternatively a friend of mine has a little girl whose birthday is 3rd January, (she is 10 days younger than my daughter) andstarted play school at the same time as the school advised she should be fine as she was so close to the cut off date.
    However 6 weeks after starting she was advised that they had been turned down for the free ECCE year for her and they had the option of paying for the year or removing her. So it seems as if they are very strict unfortunately on the cut off dates.

    Yeah it is unfortunate with the dates. I think he will just be too old starting school at 5 years and 8 months (if he had to do the 2 years of pre school) but I suppose it wouldnt be the end of the world


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