Syria Again

The_Kew_Tour

http://www.rte.ie/news/world/2017/0404/865042-syria-gas-attack/

Just the 58 people killed today for no reason. 11 children today died for no reason.

When will this world ever stop. Forget about Trump bashing(bar war talk) we should be concentrating on targeting countries whos army kill innocent people for no reason but pure greed.

America and Russia are the leaders in the pack, but we have so many nut jobs out there who have so much power is scary to think.

Elmer Blooker

I see the "activists" and your man in Coventry are back in business.
Most likely a diversion from the mass killings of civilians in Mosul.

Elemonator

While strict propaganda is likely minor in the EU and USA, I don't believe everything I hear on the news because of all the bias.

There are many armed groups operating in Syria, to say the Syrian Army is responsible is premature.

wes

Attack on the hospital after makes it doubly awful. All sides are pretty dispicable in this conflict.

Gatling

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I see the "activists" and your man in Coventry are back in business.
Most likely a diversion from the mass killings of civilians in Mosul.

Seriously you will do yourself​ a mischief one of these days ,

Gatling

Elemonator wrote: »

While strict propaganda is likely minor in the EU and USA, I don't believe everything I hear on the news because of all the bias.

There are many armed groups operating in Syria, to say the Syrian Army is responsible is premature.

A government airforce jet was seen releasing the weapon moments before​ people started suffering immediately afterwards ,
And its not the first time Assad had used chemical weapons against his own population

nacho libre

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/31/britain-odds-us-bashar-al-assads-future-syria/

They are now back on message after this latest attack. I wonder why a leader would engage in a course of action that would bring this about. Then again maybe he did not personally sanction the attack, which, if so, indicates he is not fully in control.

The_Valeyard

nacho libre wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/31/britain-odds-us-bashar-al-assads-future-syria/

They are now back on message after this latest attack. I wonder why a leader would engage in a course of action that would bring this about. Then again maybe he did not personally sanction the attack, which, if so, indicates he is not fully in control.

You're right. He might not be in control of his military.


Horrific and cowardly weapon to use. Disgusting and barbaric way to fight a war.

Jimmy Garlic

Lol, rinsing and repeating this tired old story again? Sources - the Syrian observatory for human rights ( the fat bloke in a semi-d in Coventry) and the white helmets (proven terrorists). Such a steaming load of BS. More fake news peddled by the BBC and friends.

Jimmy Garlic

Gatling wrote: »

A government airforce jet was seen releasing the weapon moments before​ people started suffering immediately afterwards ,
And its not the first time Assad had used chemical weapons against his own population

:rolleyes: Did the fat bloke in Coventry say that or his terrorist friends in the white helmets?

Jimmy Garlic

The Syrian observatry for human rights-



The White Helmets -

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

The Syrian ]

President repeatedly using chemical weapons against his own population,
Gets cheers from random internet serial denier ,

Jimmy Garlic

Gatling wrote: »

President repeatedly using chemical weapons against his own population,

Pure nonsense, bunkum, balderdash, lies, propaganda. It was BS the last time and it is BS now. Assad has absolutely nothing to gain by using chemical weapons.

Elmer Blooker

Interesting that news of this "chemical attack" breaks just before a conference on the future of Syria opens in Brussels! Isn't it good to see Germany and the UK sit down with the likes of Kuwait and Qatar to discuss democracy. There might even be one or two Syrians at this conference- make that Syrian "activists" or "leading opposition"- I doubt if any of the 60% of the population of Syria who live in government controlled areas are invited to discuss Syria's future though.
https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/news_corner/news/brussels-conference-supporting-future-syria-and-region-4-5-april-2017_en

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Pure nonsense, bunkum, balderdash, lies, propaganda. It was BS the last time and it is BS now. Assad has absolutely nothing to gain by using chemical weapons.

Lol really nothing to gain really ,

So it's been repeatedly proven he's used chemical weapons against his own population and yet some randomer claims propaganda ,

Gold comedy gold

The_Valeyard

I dont know, I'd be in favour of dropping a few Daisy cutters on Assad's head if his forces try and take more territory.

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Watched the program done on those abducted and killed by the Assad regime on C4 last week
. Horrific.

When shown the photos taken by his own people he claimed they were doctored.

Gatling

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I dont know, I'd be in favour of dropping a few Daisy cutters on Assad's head if his forces try and take more territory.

Considering he's under seige in Damascus as we speak it wouldn't much to remove certain capabilities to launch chemical weapons ,
Take away his jets and helicopters first and foremost

The Oort Cloud

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/world/2017/0404/865042-syria-gas-attack/

Just the 58 people killed today for no reason. 11 children today died for no reason.

When will this world ever stop. Forget about Trump bashing(bar war talk) we should be concentrating on targeting countries whos army kill innocent people for no reason but pure greed.

America and Russia are the leaders in the pack, but we have so many nut jobs out there who have so much power is scary to think.

As long as paper and digital money exists, the war with greed will continue. It will never end until we create a new working system of equality for all. The Utopia we all want.

Elmer Blooker

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I dont know, I'd be in favour of dropping a few Daisy cutters on Assad's head if his forces try and take more territory.

If Syrian forces try to take Syrian territory?

Yourself isit

This is as bad as the time saddam was butchering babies in incubators.

Gatling

Benjamin Netanyahu has called on the international community to "fully and finally remove these horrible weapons from Syria."

Makes you wonder if isreal might take the lead on removing Assads chemical weapons ,Putin proved useless after claiming assad gave up his chemical weapons ,

Yourself isit

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

If Syrian forces try to take Syrian territory?

Putins bad because he took non Russian territory. Assad is bad because he wants to keep his own.

Killing shia in Yemen and civilians in Iraq is OK because, well, let's not mention the war(s). Sure aa hell the media doesn't.

Yourself isit

Gatling wrote: »

Lol really nothing to gain really ,

So it's been repeatedly proven he's used chemical weapons against his own population and yet some randomer claims propaganda ,

Gold comedy gold

The comedy is assuming that assad had any reason to do this. Why?

Of course it's nonsense. Trump is not interested in overthrowing assad and hey, presto, just as he is getting away with it assad goes and drops chemical bombs. The man has no self control.

Gatling

Yourself isit wrote: »

The comedy is assuming that assad had any reason to do this. Why?

The man has no self control.

Exactly 6 years and numerous chemical attack's later and some randomer with a keyboard said it didn't happen ,

Because why would he ,

YFlyer

Yourself isit wrote: »

This is as bad as the time saddam was butchering babies in incubators.

Are you saying that the incident didn't happen?

Gringo180

The same owl sources that said Saddam had chemical weapons :pac:

Western media is filth.

Shurimgreat

Nothing like a thread about Syria to attract the usual tin foil hat brigade.

Richard Hillman

I was wrong about Saddam Hussein and Iraq. He should have just been left at it. Saddam Hussein was a bad man but he kept order.

I want a bad man governing Syria. As long as they man those borders and stop people from invading Europe, I couldn't give a **** what he does.

Shurimgreat

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

If Syrian forces try to take Syrian territory?

Rwandan Hutus were also trying to take back Rwandan territory until the pesky international community started to complain.

If only we all kept quiet and allowed Assad massacre his own people in peace.

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Rwandan Hutus were also trying to take back Rwandan territory until the pesky international community started to complain.

If only we all kept quiet and allowed Assad massacre his own people in peace.

What massacre?

Shurimgreat

Gringo180 wrote: »

The same owl sources that said Saddam had chemical weapons :pac:

Western media is filth.

Not a patch on Russian, North Korean or Chinese media.

The Cold War is over. Your side lost. Accept it and move with the times.

Shurimgreat

Gringo180 wrote: »

What massacre?

I'd be in favour of equating deniers of Assads crimes with deniers of the Holocaust.

Both groups of deniers are equally disturbed in my view.

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Not a patch on Russian, North Korean or Chinese media.

The Cold War is over. Your side lost. Accept it and move with the times.

What are you talking about my side?

Zebra3

Yourself isit wrote: »

This is as bad as the time saddam was butchering babies in incubators.

Aye, pre-fake news fake news.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_(testimony)

Moral of the story: Western propaganda is no different.

Shurimgreat

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I was wrong about Saddam Hussein and Iraq. He should have just been left at it. Saddam Hussein was a bad man but he kept order.

I want a bad man governing Syria. As long as they man those borders and stop people from invading Europe, I couldn't give a **** what he does.

And hows that "stopping people invading Europe" working out? 2 million refugees have come to Europe and Syrian based ISIS carry out almost weekly attacks here since Assad started his murderous crackdown. A real success indeed. "Bad men" tend to beget many more bad men.

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

I'd be in favour of equating deniers of Assads crimes with deniers of the Holocaust.

Both groups of deniers are equally disturbed in my view.

If you care to provide some evidence to back up your claim?

The only massacre in the region I can recall is the one that went on in Iraq where over 5 hundred thousand people lost there lives in an illegal war.

Shurimgreat

Ah well the usual Assad apologists and fans are out in force again.

The more crimes he commits the more they cheerlead and apologise for him.

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

And hows that "stopping people invading Europe" working out? 2 million refugees have come to Europe and Syrian based ISIS carry out almost weekly attacks here since Assad started his murderous crackdown. A reall success indeed. "Bad men" tend to beget many more bad men.

Your blaming ISIS attacks in Europe on Assad? Am I reading this right :pac:

Richard Hillman

Shurimgreat wrote: »

And hows that "stopping people invading Europe" working out? 2 million refugees have come to Europe and Syrian based ISIS carry out almost weekly attacks here since Assad started his murderous crackdown. A reall success indeed. "Bad men" tend to beget many more bad men.

That should be the mandate given to Assad and the other tyrants. Secure your border and we'll leave you alone.

North Korea do a great job of it. Although North Koreans don't have a cultural mandate to kill us all.

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Ah well the usual Assad apologists and fans are out in force again.

The more crimes he commits the more they cheerlead and apologise for him.

Can you provide some evidence that Assad massacred innocent civilians please? You said he did surely you can at least back this up?

dublinman1990

I saw the pictures of the attack from the BBC not too long ago. They were very harrowing to watch on the news.

The images on TV of real children and adults being victims of this attack is an absolute disgrace. Any intervention that the international community does in stopping these attacks has to make a real immediate impact so innocent people do not get killed instantly.

My thoughts are with them in the aftermath.

Shurimgreat

Gringo180 wrote: »

Your blaming ISIS attacks in Europe on Assad? Am I reading this right :pac:

ISIS were non existent in Syria before your hero directly and indirectly created them through brutality and driving tens of thousands of new recruits to their ranks due again to his brutality.

So in short yes I am.

nacho libre

The fact Qatar are being invited to a discussion on democracy is also comedy gold.

Beyondgone

Iraq and Libya have been "£$done".

Iran and Syria are now up on the agenda, to be "£$done".

Ergo, whoever rules Iran or Syria are "Bad Pason". They gas babies, ride nuns and leave the loo seat down, while riding teenagers. They also want to kill you - you personally.

Honest.

They need to go. It's in everyone's interest. And for "safety".. and terrorism is bad M'kay

Shurimgreat

Gringo180 wrote: »

Can you provide some evidence that Assad massacred innocent civilians please? You said he did surely you can at least back this up?

Again I put you in the same category as a Holocaust denier and hence not worthy of my time.

Shurimgreat

Beyondgone wrote: »

Iraq and Libya have been "£$done".

Iran and Syria are now up on the agenda, to be "£$done".

Ergo, whoever rules Iran or Syria are "Bad Pason". They gas babies, ride nuns and leave the loo seat down, while riding teenagers. They also want to kill you - you personally.

Honest.

They need to go. It's in everyone's interest. And for "safety".. and terrorism is bad M'kay

You're right. What were we thinking? Assad and those in Iran who support him are lovely people. Wouldn't hurt a fly. Great democrats, etc etc

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

ISIS were non existent in Syria before your hero directly and indirectly created them through brutality and driving tens of thousands of new recruits to their ranks due again to his brutality.

So in short yes I am.

Hes no hero of mine dont be putting words into my mouth.

There was no ISIS before the invasion of Iraq. Its funny that most of the terror attacks in Europe have been from European citizens born and bred. All the have to do is turn on the news and there half way to been radicalised, because they see the injustice of western foreign policy in the middle east and the complete hypocrisy of it all.

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Again I put you in the same category as a Holocaust denier and hence not worthy of my time.

Your an absolute clown of the highest order. Brainwashed.

Mod-Banned for personal abuse

Shurimgreat

Gringo180 wrote: »

Hes no hero of mine dont be putting words into my mouth.

There was no ISIS before the invasion of Iraq. Its funny that most of the terror attacks in Europe have been from European citizens born and bred. All the have to do is turn on the news and there half way to been radicalised, because they see the injustice of western foreign policy in the middle east and the complete hypocrisy of it all.

After the invasion of Iraq ISIS or their predessesor were a small fringe group in the deserts of Iraq. During the course of the Syrian conflict they grew to a force of tens of thousands and controlled territory the size of britain. Most of these recruits were radicalised by Assads brutality. Its not a difficult one.

Shurimgreat

Gringo180 wrote: »

Your an absolute clown of the highest order. Brainwashed.

Oh the irony