Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

mr spuckler

nee wrote: »

Nope !

I was only thinking yesterday the reason it feels like there are more incidents with taxis as one close passed me Is because of proximity more than anything else. Incidents with cars increase for me just after 7pm and of a Sunday when normal cars are in the bus lanes, taxis are in with/ beside us there all the time.

while I've had my share of issues with taxi drivers, I fully subscribe to the view that private cars using the bus lanes are more of a danger. particularly when they use them when the lanes are operational - ie during rush hour.

RGS

mr spuckler wrote: »

while I've had my share of issues with taxi drivers, I fully subscribe to the view that private cars using the bus lanes are more of a danger. particularly when they use them when the lanes are operational - ie during rush hour.

There are hours when private cars are not allowed in the bus lanes.

Do motorists know theses rules????:)

Felexicon

nee wrote: »

Nope !

I was only thinking yesterday the reason it feels like there are more incidents with taxis as one close passed me Is because of proximity more than anything else. Incidents with cars increase for me just after 7pm and of a Sunday when normal cars are in the bus lanes, taxis are in with/ beside us there all the time.

It was a joke.

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Felexicon wrote: »

It was a joke.

Doh!

Kaisr Sose

nee wrote: »

Doh!

Double ‘Doh’

When is comedy hour over – 7pm ?

Ray Bloody Purchase

Driver on her mobile phone started slowly veering into cycle path this morning around KCR. I saw her from far out. I pulled up behind her, she spotted me in her mirror and pulled out again.

I think people pay a lot less attention when they are in slow traffic. I thought she was going to slowly hit the footpath.

Mercian Pro

Heading home yesterday on the R122 after a club spin when a truck close-passed me at speed. There were a couple of cars coming the other way and, rather than slowing, he decided to squeeze through the gap. I've had closer passes but not at 60+kph.

Caught up with him at the lights at Charlestown and explained in reasonable terms what he had done. There was a pause as he contemplated his response before he invited me to go f**k myself. On the basis that this guy urgently needed some re-education, I went to take a photo of his reg plate. In an attempt to prevent this, he edged forward until he was well into the junction despite the red light and crossing traffic. When I got the photo the driver got out of the cab, pushed a phone in my face and told me he could take photos too and that if he ever saw me again he would kick the bo**ix out of me. I headed to Finglas Garda Station.

The Garda there was very helpful and set out the options. I could either make a statement with a view to a possible prosecution or give her the details so that she could call him in for a warning. Without video evidence or a witness I reckoned the former was unlikely to happen so she took all the details and promised to let me know how things went. As the lorry had a big company website address painted on it I was able to send them a full report of what had happened once I got home.

I await developments.

steamsey

Mercian Pro wrote: »

Heading home yesterday on the R122 after a club spin when a truck close-passed me at speed. There were a couple of cars coming the other way and, rather than slowing, he decided to squeeze through the gap. I've had closer passes but not at 60+kph.

Caught up with him at the lights at Charlestown and explained in reasonable terms what he had done. There was a pause as he contemplated his response before he invited me to go f**k myself. On the basis that this guy urgently needed some re-education, I went to take a photo of his reg plate. In an attempt to prevent this, he edged forward until he was well into the junction despite the red light and crossing traffic. When I got the photo the driver got out of the cab, pushed a phone in my face and told me he could take photos too and that if he ever saw me again he would kick the bo**ix out of me. I headed to Finglas Garda Station.

The Garda there was very helpful and set out the options. I could either make a statement with a view to a possible prosecution or give her the details so that she could call him in for a warning. Without video evidence or a witness I reckoned the former was unlikely to happen so she took all the details and promised to let me know how things went. As the lorry had a big company website address painted on it I was able to send them a full report of what had happened once I got home.

I await developments.

I had a nearly identical issue recently, with the addition of a poorly delivered punch to my head for daring to photo the reg of a lunatic driver who quite literally tried to run me off the road. We'll see where it goes with the Garda. I had no camera on at the time and that will never happen again.

I used to try to police what was going on around me - tell people to get off their phones, shout and gesticulate if someone was doing something crazy but I've realised that it's a loosing battle. The amount of bad driving and sheer aggression towards cyclists out there is terrifying. I would love to not have to commute via bike but it's the only practical option at the moment.

Everyone is on their phone. There are no police about, no checkpoints and zero enforcement of traffic rules. It's essentially a free for all and people will only go as far as they are let, and in this case that's all the way.

Watch yourselves out there. Get a camera. Get home safe and don't bother trying to be a policeman - the Garda themselves are getting paid to do this and even they aren't bothered. While it may chafe to ignore what's going on and let people away with it so to speak, it chafes more to be knocked down, punched, sworn at, threatened and run off the road.

helimachoptor

Cyclist down @ RTE towards UCD.

Wife is on the bus but says it looks serious with a lot of blood on the ground and lots of emergency services at the scene

Paradicia

Does anyone find people who cycle slowly to be more dangerous than people cycling fast -- especially in bike lanes. If someone is going as slow as you can jog or walk, I find that to be really dangerous as it causes people to push out onto the street where cars are.

TheChizler

Paradicia wrote: »

Does anyone find people who cycle slowly to be more dangerous than people cycling fast -- especially in bike lanes. If someone is going as slow as you can jog or walk, I find that to be really dangerous as it causes people to push out onto the street where cars are.

This often comes up in the motors forum when talking about slow drivers. The danger comes from a careless overtake of the slower person normally.

amcalester

Paradicia wrote: »

Does anyone find people who cycle slowly to be more dangerous than people cycling fast -- especially in bike lanes. If someone is going as slow as you can jog or walk, I find that to be really dangerous as it causes people to push out onto the street where cars are.

If I come up behind a slow moving cyclist then I wait until it is safe to pass before passing.

The slow moving cyclist doesn't push others out into the road, the individual cyclist decides to do this.

Sounds similar to the oft heard motorist saying the cyclist made them overtake dangerously.

magicbastarder

helimachoptor wrote: »

Cyclist down @ RTE towards UCD.

Wife is on the bus but says it looks serious with a lot of blood on the ground and lots of emergency services at the scene

Cyclist seriously injured in Dublin crash
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0418/955509-dublin-cyclist/

mr spuckler

magicbastarder wrote: »

Cyclist seriously injured in Dublin crash
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0418/955509-dublin-cyclist/

I always get even more concerned when I read that the scene has been sealed off. fingers crossed for this man.

Truck involved according to the RTE piece

micar

magicbastarder wrote: »

Cyclist seriously injured in Dublin crash
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0418/955509-dublin-cyclist/

I cycle to work 4 days a week......except on Wednesdays. Go through that junction heading into town on my way home.

Seriously hope he's ok.

robindch

Mercian Pro wrote: »

Caught up with him at the lights at Charlestown and explained in reasonable terms what he had done. There was a pause as he contemplated his response before he invited me to go f**k myself.

Been in similar situations myself a few times. Best option is to be completely non-confrontational and follow some or all of the following steps:

• Photograph the number plate and insurance details on the passenger side
• Move back the vehicle and knock politely on the passenger window - approaching on the driver side could get you a door in the face, plus it's less intimidating for the driver anyway.
• Explain politely that you were almost run over, pushed off the road, etc, etc - some people will admit driving badly immediately and apologize in which case, just thank them for their honesty, wish them a safe journey and get on with your day.
• If they bollock you, attempt to drive off over you, then explain that you'll be in touch with the police, see if you can take a picture of the driver but from a safe location.
• Look around to see if there are security cameras and photo them if there are, also any witnesses.
• When there, describe the incident carefully, with photos and presence of security cameras, witnesses etc.
• The cops will give you the options above - either prosecute in which case it's your word against theirs, or request that they get in touch with the driver and ask them to apologize on the understanding that you reserve the right to prosecute if they do not. Most should be happy with that.

I've found the police helpful with the above and, so far, all drivers have apologized (perhaps six or eight at this point over the last few years). Main thing is to be friendly, non-confrontational, smile as much as possible, even if you're shaking all over.

Chiparus

robindch wrote: »

Been in similar situations myself a few times. Best option is to be completely non-confrontational and follow some or all of the following steps:

• Photograph the number plate and insurance details on the passenger side
• Move back the vehicle and knock politely on the passenger window - approaching on the driver side could get you a door in the face, plus it's less intimidating for the driver anyway.
• Explain politely that you were almost run over, pushed off the road, etc, etc - some people will admit driving badly immediately and apologize in which case, just thank them for their honesty, wish them a safe journey and get on with your day.
• If they bollock you, attempt to drive off over you, then explain that you'll be in touch with the police, see if you can take a picture of the driver but from a safe location.
• Look around to see if there are security cameras and photo them if there are, also any witnesses.
• When there, describe the incident carefully, with photos and presence of security cameras, witnesses etc.
• The cops will give you the options above - either prosecute in which case it's your word against theirs, or request that they get in touch with the driver and ask them to apologize on the understanding that you reserve the right to prosecute if they do not. Most should be happy with that.

I've found the police helpful with the above and, so far, all drivers have apologized (perhaps six or eight at this point over the last few years). Main thing is to be friendly, non-confrontational, smile as much as possible, even if you're shaking all over.

Get a cycle cam, after one close pass I called the owner of the haulage firm and directed him to the youtube link.

A few minutes later I got a phone call with an apology and a plan of action.

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Paradicia wrote: »

Does anyone find people who cycle slowly to be more dangerous than people cycling fast -- especially in bike lanes. If someone is going as slow as you can jog or walk, I find that to be really dangerous as it causes people to push out onto the street where cars are.

I’d consider myself a pretty fast cyclist, I’d pass a fair amount of other cyclists on my commute, some very slow at a jogging pace. Having a small handlebar mirror helps, or recognising their speed from a distance so you’ve more time to signal and move out.

To be fair, as cyclists we hit very little traffic and our commutes are almost identical in time each day bar a few factors like wind, rain, etc. Depending on lights, my commute is within the 26-27 minute range 99% of the time. Slowing down for a couple of cyclists is nothing in the grand scheme of things, considering a bus or car commute varies wildly day by day. My wife’s commute by car is the almost the same route and can be anything from 40 mins to 1.5hrs

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helimachoptor wrote: »

Cyclist down @ RTE towards UCD.

Wife is on the bus but says it looks serious with a lot of blood on the ground and lots of emergency services at the scene

Fcuk. Hope they're ok

AndrewJRenko

Chiparus wrote: »

Get a cycle cam, after one close pass I called the owner of the haulage firm and directed him to the youtube link.

A few minutes later I got a phone call with an apology and a plan of action.

I got two positive responses from businesses in the last 24 hours, one about a driver on the phone, and one about a truck parked in a bike lane.

It is well worth following up with video footage.

magicbastarder wrote: »

Cyclist seriously injured in Dublin crash
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0418/955509-dublin-cyclist/

helimachoptor wrote: »

Cyclist down @ RTE towards UCD.

Wife is on the bus but says it looks serious with a lot of blood on the ground and lots of emergency services at the scene

micar wrote: »

I cycle to work 4 days a week......except on Wednesdays. Go through that junction heading into town on my way home.

Seriously hope he's ok.

Citizen W0lf regularly publishes video of drivers breaking red lights at that junction.

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nee wrote: »

Fcuk. Hope they're ok

Unfortunately he has passed away.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0418/955509-dublin-cyclist/

Pinch Flat

RIP. Very sad news to read.

mr spuckler

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Unfortunately he has passed away.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0418/955509-dublin-cyclist/

RIP poor young man.

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Horrific. R.I.P.

Panjandrums

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AndrewJRenko

Panjandrums wrote: »

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Isn't it amazing how all these 'near misses' so rarely translate into actual road deaths, whereas by comparison, motorists actually kill three or four people on the road each week.

helimachoptor

ah man, RIP to the cyclist, my wife said it was a very grim scene at the time :(

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