This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

ELM327

I imported a 2016 S90D last year and paid 2k VRT

eamondunphy

ELM327 wrote: »

I imported a 2016 S90D last year and paid 2k VRT

Thanks, did you pay that after appealing or was that the first price the they told you.

Have imprinted cars before so am familiar with the process, its jus that tesla info is very vague and ambiguous when it comes to vrt

Pkiernan

jhegarty wrote: »

Facelift 75D for £35k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202009143698008

Why wouls the 4th pic in that ad show its as an S70D?

Gumbo

Pkiernan wrote: »

Why wouls the 4th pic in that ad show its as an S70D?

Good spot.
A UK Car check has it as a 75D alright.

Tax 1st Sep 2021
MOT 9th Sep 2021

MOT dates

13.08.2019 @ 39,652 miles
08.09.2020 @ 51,453 miles
10.09.2020 @ 51,473 miles

slave1

Pkiernan wrote: »

Why wouls the 4th pic in that ad show its as an S70D?

Could be a software restricted 75D down to 70D which has been uncorked by current owner, these do exist.
Beautiful colour

jhegarty

Pkiernan wrote: »

Why wouls the 4th pic in that ad show its as an S70D?

All (I think) facelift 70D cars are actually a software locked 75D.


It was available as an unlock for cheap. Not sure on the UK , but it was $500 at one stage in the US.

Gumbo

slave1 wrote: »

Could be a software restricted 75D down to 70D which has been uncorked by current owner, these do exist.
Beautiful colour

jhegarty wrote: »

All (I think) facelift 70D cars are actually a software locked 75D.


It was available as an unlock for cheap. Not sure on the UK , but it was $500 at one stage in the US.

Why would the DVLA have it listed as a 75d though?

Kramer

Gumbo wrote: »

Good spot.
A UK Car check has it as a 75D alright.
MOT dates

13.08.2019 @ 39,652 miles
08.09.2020 @ 51,453 miles
10.09.2020 @ 61,473 miles

Isn't is listed as:
"52,000 miles"

People need to be very careful buying privately from the UK.
Very careful.

I've seen people advocating doing instant transfers of 10s of thousands of €uros to complete strangers in the UK, based on internet adds.

Someone is inevitably going to get badly stung I fear.

Be careful :cool:.

unkel

slave1 wrote: »

Beautiful colour

My loaner the last few days was that colour. Not offense, but rather bland. Beige. I'd rather have any other colour. Except white of course

jhegarty

Gumbo wrote: »

Good spot.
A UK Car check has it as a 75D alright.

Tax 1st Sep 2021
MOT 9th Sep 2021

MOT dates

13.08.2019 @ 39,652 miles
08.09.2020 @ 51,453 miles
10.09.2020 @ 61,473 miles

Here is what I see:


September 2020 | Pass | 51,473 mi


September 2020 | Fail | 51,453 mi

Reasons:

Offside Front Tyre has ply or cords exposed (5.2.3 (d) (ii))

Nearside Front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (5.2.3 (e))
Advisories

Nearside Rear Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

Offside Rear Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

August 2019 | Pass | 39,652 mi


Registered on road | September 2nd, 2016

unkel

Gumbo wrote: »

08.09.2020 @ 51,453 miles
10.09.2020 @ 61,473 miles

Not even Nyland could have done 16000 km on the Autobahn in 2 days

Gumbo

Kramer wrote: »

Isn't is listed as:
"52,000 miles"

People need to be very careful buying privately from the UK.
Very careful.

I've seen people advocating doing instant transfers of 10s of thousands of €uros to complete strangers in the UK, based on internet adds.

Someone is inevitably going to get badly stung I fear.

Be careful :cool:.

That’s my fault. The retest was 20 miles later. Should be 51, 473.

I’ve edited my original post.

garo

Kramer wrote: »

Isn't is listed as:
"52,000 miles"

People need to be very careful buying privately from the UK.
Very careful.

I've seen people advocating doing instant transfers of 10s of thousands of €uros to complete strangers in the UK, based on internet adds.

Someone is inevitably going to get badly stung I fear.

Be careful :cool:.

Edit: I see that the original post has been corrected but my point below remains.

Yes couldn't agree more. As someone who has just gone through the process and transferred tens of thousands to a private party, my advice is if anything feels even slightly amiss, just walk away. There will always be another car but if your money is gone it is gone.

I walked away from a couple of cars that were probably ok but I wasn't 100% convinced. In the end, I went with a seller who though selling private, was selling a company car. So I was transferring to a well-established company bank account that I checked out on the company directory and on their own website. And got full service records from Tesla. And spoke to the man on video as he showed the car. And did a street view on google maps to make sure he was where he claimed he was. And a few other things.

Do your own due diligence before buying private. And if you feel unconfortable, go with a dealer. Good deals on UK dealers do pop up every now and again. The two sub-30k Teslas on autotrader right now are both dealer cars. With the GBP so low and Brexit approaching this is a good time to buy.

slave1

When buying private from UK I always insist on two page contract, Autotrader have a template I think.
I also exchange Driving Licences.

If seller not okay with above I'll just move on.
Never been in any bother to date.

garo

Yes a written contract is a must. I took the autotrader template and added a few things that were specific to my situation. It has to Ben signed by both parties before any money changes hands.

listermint

slave1 wrote: »

When buying private from UK I always insist on two page contract, Autotrader have a template I think.
I also exchange Driving Licences.

If seller not okay with above I'll just move on.
Never been in any bother to date.

What use is the contract. Genuinely? How would it stand up in court. Or is this just a box checking exercise. Have you ever attempted to enforce such a contract.

garo

IANAL but if you ever land up in court, having a written contract is better than not having a written contract. A contract doesn’t guarantee anything but better than not having one.

slave1

listermint wrote: »

What use is the contract. Genuinely? How would it stand up in court. Or is this just a box checking exercise. Have you ever attempted to enforce such a contract.

A signed detailed contract with proof of sale, payment amount and passing over of ownership, verified addresses and identity of both parties.
If you don't see how something like that would be of use then good luck with your private sale.
We're not talking short change here...

Pappajohn

Gumbo wrote: »

Good spot.
A UK Car check has it as a 75D alright.

Tax 1st Sep 2021
MOT 9th Sep 2021

MOT dates

13.08.2019 @ 39,652 miles
08.09.2020 @ 51,453 miles
10.09.2020 @ 51,473 miles

jhegarty wrote: »

Here is what I see:


September 2020 | Pass | 51,473 mi


September 2020 | Fail | 51,453 mi

Reasons:

Offside Front Tyre has ply or cords exposed (5.2.3 (d) (ii))

Nearside Front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (5.2.3 (e))
Advisories

Nearside Rear Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

Offside Rear Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

August 2019 | Pass | 39,652 mi


Registered on road | September 2nd, 2016

Can I ask you guys what UK Car Check site did you use to get this level of detail?

I assume it was one of the paid for services.

jhegarty

Pappajohn wrote: »

Can I ask you guys what UK Car Check site did you use to get this level of detail?

I assume it was one of the paid for services.

I use https://www.checkmyreg.com/

unkel

Very good deal here, Tesla CPO 2017 Model S 75 facelift, 2 year warranty with FSD for just GBP36,400

Linky


This won't hang around. If you're in the market, buy it quickly...

garo

unkel wrote: »

Very good deal here, Tesla CPO 2017 Model S 75 facelift, 2 year warranty with FSD for just GBP36,400

Linky

This won't hang around. If you're in the market, buy it quickly...

Feck it! Had to show up the week I bought my car. Bit rich for my taste anyhoo. But 2017 facelift. Man!

unkel

garo wrote: »

Feck it! Had to show up the week I bought my car. Bit rich for my taste anyhoo. But 2017 facelift. Man!

With HW2 and FSD. Not very useful at the moment, but it has the potential to make a real difference in future and If I'm not mistaken, the hardware will be upgraded for free if you have FSD

Car is pretty base for the rest, except it does have the upgraded charger so it can do 17kW AC. CCS conversion is now just €294 incl VAT

garo

Yeah it is a bargain alright. Battery and drivetrain warranty till 2025 and at the current Revolut rate comes in a shade under 40k EUR.

unkel

garo wrote: »

Yeah it is a bargain alright. Battery and drivetrain warranty till 2025 and at the current Revolut rate comes in a shade under 40k EUR.

With a VRT bill likely below a grand (before or after appeal)

@jhegarty - would a car like this not change your mind back to getting used Model S instead of new Model 3?

garo

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/hyundai/kona/fpa/202008102324367
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-kona-electric-64kwh-450km-range/25609476

A non-Tesla bargain. 32k for a 192 64kWh Kona.

unkel

Yes that was posted in the for sale thread on here

Kona 64kWh is a lot of car / range for €30k. For the near €40k it was new, not so much.

eagerv

unkel wrote: »

Yes that was posted in the for sale thread on here

Kona 64kWh is a lot of car / range for €30k. For the near €40k it was new, not so much.

Or new price at €42500 as I saw on the window sticker at a dealer in Waterford.

garo

unkel wrote: »

Yes that was posted in the for sale thread on here

Kona 64kWh is a lot of car / range for €30k. For the near €40k it was new, not so much.

Ah sorry you are right.

Casati

eagerv wrote: »

Or new price at €42500 as I saw on the window sticker at a dealer in Waterford.

They’ve gone up in price haven’t they - think they were circa 38/39k new two years ago? 32k is over 80% value retained - if they get it