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This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

  • 23-12-2016 10:16PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Might be an interesting thread for people in the market for buying (or selling!) a second hand EV :)

    Rules: not many. It would be nice for everyone if we stick to the following format. With a pic of the car, a description with asking price and a link to the ad. Fine if it's your own car, but you have to clearly state it is yours. Please only cars without a leased battery

    I'll start it off...

    '11 Leaf, 88k miles, NCT 03/17, tax 10/17, fast charge cable + granny cable

    only 10 bars left

    asking €6,890

    ZDFjODNlZDVmYmI4OGNkODQ3YTVkNzU3OTRlNjgyZDTAwYFDuYvkDCoigNZYtlcaaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b182NjIwNjg4OXx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

    Linky
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Smck1983


    Yes thought of that afterwards. Think they really don’t want to be dealing with second hand and now they are so well know I guess their main focus is new cars.

    Leaves an opening for independent here to do all the small repairs. Hopefully someone will step in.

    Meanwhile will enjoy CPO warranty until 2022.
    Is it a question of reliability, or are they trying to push people to buy newer cars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,191 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    So they take away the free Suc and free connectivity, and only for 1 year/10k miles additional warranty?
    Pfffhh thats crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,727 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Smck1983 wrote: »
    Yes thought of that afterwards. Think they really don’t want to be dealing with second hand and now they are so well know I guess their main focus is new cars.

    Leaves an opening for independent here to do all the small repairs. Hopefully someone will step in.

    Meanwhile will enjoy CPO warranty until 2022.


    Lets gets Rich Rebuilds on the case :D


    Seriously, I think you're correct. There's an opening here for Tesla & other EV focused garages. You could even get OEMs making copycat parts to replace components that Tesla won't sell

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,727 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    ELM327 wrote: »
    So they take away the free Suc and free connectivity, and only for 1 year/10k miles additional warranty?
    Pfffhh thats crap.


    What Elon giveth, he also takes away...:rolleyes:

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    If Tesla do not want to deal in CPO then they simply should go purchase only model, no trade ins.
    Simples....glad I have my free Suc and connectivity and 2022 warranty before it all collapsed

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Orebro


    Surely they couldn't be expected to continue providing 2/4 year warranties on 5/6/7 year old cars? They're mental money even with the warranty imho, and deffo not a car to own outside of warranty, you wouldn't be going to Micks garage for Tesla parts thats for sure.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Orebro wrote: »
    Surely they couldn't be expected to continue providing 2/4 year warranties on 5/6/7 year old cars? They're mental money even with the warranty imho, and deffo not a car to own outside of warranty, you wouldn't be going to Micks garage for Tesla parts thats for sure.

    If that’s the case will they be scrapped once the warranty runs out?
    The parts are no more expensive than BMW, Audi or any of the other premium brands.

    The big thing is the battery in fairness. If it goes. But the same for a 520d. If the engine goes. If.

    I’m biased though. I drive a 2014 :)


  • Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Not well respected here, but if a 38 ioniq suits your needs here's 2 bargains

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1398421950294098/permalink/2074839079319045/?sale_post_id=2074839079319045


    UK ex demo 202 reg white ioniq38. 2 of them. 30k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,727 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Gumbo wrote: »
    If that’s the case will they be scrapped once the warranty runs out?
    The parts are no more expensive than BMW, Audi or any of the other premium brands.

    The big thing is the battery in fairness. If it goes. But the same for a 520d. If the engine goes. If.

    I’m biased though. I drive a 2014 :)

    Well if you look at Rich rebuilds (and yes, I know he's biased too) it's not so much the expense as the hassle.

    First getting parts of Tesla seems to be nearly impossible as they won't sell most of their parts to end users. So you need to get parts second hand from a crashed Tesla, not exactly the best source.

    Then you need to find someone to fit it. Tesla won't support any vehicles that haven't been repaired in their service centers (of which there's 1 in Ireland) and will start yanking features on cars that have been repaired by third parties.

    Now, to be fair, I'm sure if Audi or BMW could do any of that they would, but at the moment they don't and there's a well established chain of parts suppliers, OEMs, and independent mechanics who can fix issues with those cars

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,727 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Not well respected here, but if a 38 ioniq suits your needs here's 2 bargains

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1398421950294098/permalink/2074839079319045/?sale_post_id=2074839079319045


    UK ex demo 202 reg white ioniq38. 2 of them.

    They lost me at the white paint :(

    Normally demo cars only have a few hundred miles, which would mean you need to pay VAT as well. I wonder have these ones been driven more or is that the ex-VAT price?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,141 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Well if you look at Rich rebuilds (and yes, I know he's biased too) it's not so much the expense as the hassle.

    First getting parts of Tesla seems to be nearly impossible as they won't sell most of their parts to end users. So you need to get parts second hand from a crashed Tesla, not exactly the best source.

    Then you need to find someone to fit it. Tesla won't support any vehicles that haven't been repaired in their service centers (of which there's 1 in Ireland) and will start yanking features on cars that have been repaired by third parties.

    Now, to be fair, I'm sure if Audi or BMW could do any of that they would, but at the moment they don't and there's a well established chain of parts suppliers, OEMs, and independent mechanics who can fix issues with those cars

    Doesn't seem to have stopped him opening two shops in different states within 12 months specialising in Tesla repairs.....


  • Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    They lost me at the white paint :(

    Normally demo cars only have a few hundred miles, which would mean you need to pay VAT as well. I wonder have these ones been driven more or is that the ex-VAT price?

    I'd imagine the advertised price is the price you pay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Not well respected here, but if a 38 ioniq suits your needs here's 2 bargains

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1398421950294098/permalink/2074839079319045/?sale_post_id=2074839079319045


    UK ex demo 202 reg white ioniq38. 2 of them. 30k

    I feel a 2019 Kona 64kWh for €30k already here is much better value than a 2020 Ioniq for GBP30k that you will have to bring in yourself or pay someone else significant money to do so.

    Not a bargain in my book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    And on that note, why on earth is nobody buying that yellow GBP14,999 (!!!) asking price Ioniq EV? Yours for around GBP14,500, or €16k, a steal.


  • Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    unkel wrote: »
    I feel a 2019 Kona 64kWh for €30k already here is much better value than a 2020 Ioniq for GBP30k that you will have to bring in yourself or pay someone else significant money to do so.

    Not a bargain in my book.

    I read the ad as Phil selling you the car for 29999. Ioniq is a different car to the Kona. Kona could be 20k and I'd still not buy it, it doesn't work for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I read the ad as Phil selling you the car for 29999.

    Apologies, I didn't read that properly at all. A nearly brand new 38kWh Ioniq on Irish plates for sub €30k is a reasonably good deal. Remember plenty of people out there paid €28k-€29k for their classic 28kWh Ioniqs!

    Makes a private sale second hand one from the start of the year for €31k look woefully overpriced...


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,062 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    unkel wrote: »
    And on that note, why on earth is nobody buying that yellow GBP14,999 (!!!) asking price Ioniq EV? Yours for around GBP14,500, or €16k, a steal.

    and if you really didnt like the yellow you could get it wrapped


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    It's a great colour imho. Wrapping professionally is €1500, that would make the car not such a great deal anymore.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    2016 Facelift 70D, free Supercharging, nice colour, next gen seats and appears in good nick with 21" turbines, asking £34, bit pricey but about the best that's out there at the minute

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010024530763?modal=description

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

    Public Profile active ads for slave1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    With AP1 that's a decent price imho

    High enough miles though for the year, no warranty (unless you want to drive it back to the seller in the UK), looks like a pretty basic spec too. And the 21" wheels are not great in Ireland, unless you mostly drive on motorways.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    All agreed but the super bargains gone now, think this thread could be renamed This Week's EV Good Value I'm not Buying....

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    There always were and always will be super bargains. We've seen plenty in this thread, even this year. But I agree they are fewer and more far between now. Demand for second hand EVs is much higher than it used to be now even the slowest adapting people out there have finally realised this is where things are going and supply is still very low. And supply is about to become only a fraction of what it is today when Brexit, which means pretty much all second hand EVs will keep their value relatively very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,727 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    unkel wrote: »
    There always were and always will be super bargains. We've seen plenty in this thread, even this year. But I agree they are fewer and more far between now. Demand for second hand EVs is much higher than it used to be now even the slowest adapting people out there have finally realised this is where things are going and supply is still very low. And supply is about to become only a fraction of what it is today when Brexit, which means pretty much all second hand EVs will keep their value relatively very well.

    It'll be a seller's market soon, which suits me :)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,583 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    It'll be a seller's market soon, which suits me :)

    Will there be buyers though?

    I think a lot of folk are watching their spending the way the virus is going. The future is fairly uncertain at present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,727 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Will there be buyers though?

    I think a lot of folk are watching their spending the way the virus is going. The future is fairly uncertain at present.

    EV sales keep going up despite the pandemic. Granted a lot of people buying those probably had their minds made up before the pandemic hit, but it shows there's still demand out there.

    I imagine there's plenty of folks out there looking for a second hand EV with low running costs to use as a second car for the household

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭garo


    https://www.electricautos.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=2656976


    This looks alright? High mileage but 2018 28kWh Ioniq for < 20k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,752 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    EV sales keep going up despite the pandemic.

    Poperty market is doing similar at least around here. I expected a slump but not thus far. Going to be a pop at some point though and I expect cars to do similar before things are back to normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010084777134

    £35,990

    Facelift 2016 75D
    Looks to be AP2

    72,045 miles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭garo




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