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Dáil is an ‘assembly of half-wits and lunatics’ - Michael O'Leary

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    #32
    Fleawuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Well let's apply the Ryanair model to the country: we're going to get people to do the jobs of two or three people at once, expand services, have lots of hidden costs, charge for services previously included in the price, launch pr offensives about side issues, have sh*t quality for the client, make wealthy people even wealthier.


    Thanks Mr O'Leary. We've tried it and it has seriously pissed off most of the population. You are quite right about the Dail: only the type of people you describe would apply your business model to a society. Now fcuk off.


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    #33
    Idbatterim
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    Mr O’Leary said the Irish electorate needed to take responsibility for choices made at the ballot box. People needed to stop voting in the local lunatic or the village idiot if they wanted a strong, serious government - “We, when given the opportunity, chose to vote in the worst assembly of half-wits and lunatics.
    The electorate cannot complain about the lack of activity by this Government because it was what they voted for.

    yeah it is what was voted for, you think we have been ignoring the good candidates or parties or something michael, they are all beyond a joke! thats what gets to me, its as if we are complaining about the sham that this country is, while ignoring the good option! Spare me!
    Well let's apply the Ryanair model to the country: we're going to get people to do the jobs of two or three people at once, expand services, have lots of hidden costs, charge for services previously included in the price, launch pr offensives about side issues, have sh*t quality for the client, make wealthy people even wealthier.


    Thanks Mr O'Leary. We've tried it and it has seriously pissed off most of the population. You are quite right about the Dail: only the type of people you describe would apply your business model to a society. Now fcuk off.
    maybe we should apply his model, you get good service for a cheap price. What do we get here, ****e results and this country spends a bloody fortune every year...


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    #34
    pauliebdub
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    While I like Ryanair for giving us cheap flights, we'd be treated like slaves on ****e money if he were in charge.


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    #35
    pauliebdub
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    Fleawuss wrote: »
    Well let's apply the Ryanair model to the country: we're going to get people to do the jobs of two or three people at once, expand services, have lots of hidden costs, charge for services previously included in the price, launch pr offensives about side issues, have sh*t quality for the client, make wealthy people even wealthier.


    Thanks Mr O'Leary. We've tried it and it has seriously pissed off most of the population. You are quite right about the Dail: only the type of people you describe would apply your business model to a society. Now fcuk off.

    Totally agree! Be careful what you wish for is what I would say.


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    #36
    fly_agaric
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    a strong, serious government

    It think likes of Micheal O'Leary wouldn't really like that though.
    (Who knows) the "strong, serious" government might not always be minded to do what Michael O'Leary wants, and I'm sure its easier to get away with murder when many of the "legislators"/regulators" are, shall we say, not so focused on their job in the Dail.


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    #37
    ygolometsipe
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    relax carry on wrote: »
    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    Ireland is too corrupt to govern effectively.

    The public sector should also have limits on terms of service.

    The entire public service? Firemen, teachers, nurses, DSP staff, Revenue auditors etc? What is your rational for that statement and how do you see your system working?
    I uses the term public service only in the context of politics.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_service
    "A civil servant or public servant is a person in the public sector employed for a government department or agency."
    relax carry on wrote: »
    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    Ireland is too corrupt to govern effectively.

    The public sector should also have limits on terms of service.

    The entire public service? Firemen, teachers, nurses, DSP staff, Revenue auditors etc? What is your rational for that statement and how do you see your system working?
    I uses the term public service only in the context of politics.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_service
    "A civil servant or public servant is a person in the public sector employed for a government department or agency."
    In a good functioning democracy officers/representatives make the decisions (in theory)
    and they are chosen from a selection at random.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
    However like the satire Yes minister, civil servants (politicians) can be limited by other civil
    service members.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Minister
    If you read about the true foundation of Democracy it is autonomous in this regard.
    by rotation.


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    #38
    KingBrian2
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    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    Ireland is too corrupt to govern effectively.

    The system does not work but then democracy is massively flawed.

    You would likely get a better government if it was randomly selected
    like jury duty.

    The public sector should also have limits on terms of service.

    So much hatred and veiled racism in your post.


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    #39
    ygolometsipe
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    So much hatred and veiled racism in your post.

    racism? really...


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    #40
    Paulzx
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    annnnnddddd Michael O Leary gets more free publicity in all the national newspapers, tv station s websites etc. because of yet another catchy soundbite

    Well played sir.

    He really is a one man pr machine.


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    #41
    goose2005
    Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    snubbleste wrote: »
    :confused::confused:
    Éamonn Ó Cuív

    My mistake. Still, that's only two.


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    #42
    JuliusCaesar
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    Here he is, spouting his unreserved criticism of the goverment: http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/michael-oleary-dail-an-assembly-of-halfwits-and-lunatics-765879.html
    He also reserved strong criticism for The Irish Times and RTÉ for prioritising cyclists in Ranelagh and Drumcondra over others.

    WTF??


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    #43
    BlindBoyRB
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    Hard to disagree with anything he said in that article.


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    #44
    diomed
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    Not an honest man.


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    #45
    Wheeliebin30
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    He's right.

    Mick Wallace who is a tax fraud who took money that was owed to his employees and who openly breaks the law.


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    #46
    Arcade_Tryer
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    Lunatic half wit refers to Government as an assembly of half wits and lunatics.

    Lunatic half wit followers laud lunatic half wit leader for doing so.

    All in all, a great day for lunatic half wits.


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    #47
    SterlingArcher
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    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    racism? really...

    Yeah. Guy at all black gang bang. Hey guys I don't like black dicks in my ass. Brian logic.. "You must be racist so".


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    #48
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    diomed wrote: »
    Not an honest man.
    You don't get to his position as the recipient of persistent rimming and oral adulation by Newstalk radio by being an honest man.


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    #49
    maudgonner
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    goose2005 wrote: »
    My mistake. Still, that's only two.

    Also Seán Haughey, grandson of Seán Lemass.


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    #50
    Collie D
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    Paulzx wrote: »
    annnnnddddd Michael O Leary gets more free publicity in all the national newspapers, tv station s websites etc. because of yet another catchy soundbite

    Well played sir.

    He really is a one man pr machine.
    100% this.

    O'Leary spouts some anti-government claptrap every year and the media and its consumers fall over themselves to say "Oh, Michael should be running the country" despite the guy having never put forward a solution or an opinion other than a moaning soundbite. And God help us if he did, I doubt the man does democracy.

    In other news, Ryanair are having their Black Friday sale all weekend.


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    #51
    Oodoov
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    He's bang on the money. A society that votes in utter clowns like Varadkar, Ahern, Kenny, Healy Rae, Boyd Barrett, Donohoe etc... deserves all that's coming to them.


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    #52
    The_Valeyard
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    I don't agree with his Bart-killing policy, but I do approve of his Selma-killing policy


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    #53
    Alf Stewart.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    He's right.

    Mick Wallace who is a tax fraud who took money that was owed to his employees and who openly breaks the law.

    Taught how to do it by the best.


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    #54
    CrabRevolution
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    Can anyone point out the ultra qualified candidates that our electorate are supposedly not electing? I mean candidates, not random business people you reckon can do the job.

    It's all well and good to say "the current politicians are crap", but not one alternative has been named. No point proposing Michael O'Leary since he has never run for office and never will.

    I think too many people are suffering from exposure to American politics, where one person can shoot to the very top in the space of one election and subsequently appoint anyone they like to important posts. This gives huge freedom to govern as you see fit, which results in hugely different policies every 4/8 years, depending on how 51% of the population voted.

    Our proportional system prevents this to a degree, so there are far more varied interests represented.


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    #55
    CatFromHue
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    Paulzx wrote: »
    annnnnddddd Michael O Leary gets more free publicity in all the national newspapers, tv station s websites etc. because of yet another catchy soundbite

    Well played sir.

    He really is a one man pr machine.

    I'm not sure that's 100% true. He hasn't mentioned Ryanair or aviation in his interview for example.

    What he is though, and why he gets air time, is one of Ireland's leading business people who was a major player in creating one of Ireland's most successful, possible our most successful ever, business.

    He actually is someone worth listening to because of what he has achieved and what he still does.


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    #56
    CatFromHue
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    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    Can anyone point out the ultra qualified candidates that our electorate are supposedly not electing? I mean candidates, not random business people you reckon can do the job.

    It's all well and good to say "the current politicians are crap", but not one alternative has been named. No point proposing Michael O'Leary since he has never run for office and never will.

    I think too many people are suffering from exposure to American politics, where one person can shoot to the very top in the space of one election and subsequently appoint anyone they like to important posts. This gives huge freedom to govern as you see fit, which results in hugely different policies every 4/8 years, depending on how 51% of the population voted.

    Our proportional system prevents this to a degree, so there are far more varied interests represented.

    I thought Aodhan O Riordain seemed to be a capable TD.

    He lost his seat at the last election when Finian McGrath and Denise Mitchell were elected ahead of him. I'm not fully sure what they actually bring to the table.


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    #57
    Paulzx
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    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I'm not sure that's 100% true. He hasn't mentioned Ryanair or aviation in his interview for example.


    Michael O leary doesn't have to mention "Ryanair" to garner publicity for the airline.

    He is Ryanair. There isn't one person in this country who doesn't automatically think "Ryanair" irrespective of what subject he is talking about.

    If MOL is discussing the fertility and ballbag size of his prize bulls people still think of "Ryanair"

    It's nearly a version of product placement. The guy is a genius at self promotion for his company.


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    #58
    osarusan
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    CatFromHue wrote: »
    He actually is someone worth listening to because of what he has achieved and what he still does.

    I don't agree.

    I don't think his undoubted achievements in one field means that what he says about another field should automatically be respected or considered worth listening to.

    In fact, the crude way in which he speaks, the way in which he exaggerates, makes me think that he is not taking yourself seriously and not worth listening to.

    The way he speaks is not the way a person speaks when they have a serious point to make and want to be taken seriously.


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    #59
    Sand
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    snubbleste wrote: »
    People needed to stop voting in the local lunatic or the village idiot if they wanted a strong, serious government

    Why should people ever want a strong government? Strong Irish governments have always been hopelessly incompetent, arrogant and corrupt. People want weak governments that are accountable to the Dail and forced, kicking, screaming and bawling to govern in an open, transparent and vaguely evidence based manner. Thats why they vote for Independent TDs who represent them in the Dail and are abandoning the whipped party TDs which do not represent them.


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    #60
    CatFromHue
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    Paulzx wrote: »
    Michael O leary doesn't have to mention "Ryanair" to garner publicity for the airline.

    He is Ryanair. There isn't one person in this country who doesn't automatically think "Ryanair" irrespective of what subject he is talking about.

    If MOL is discussing the fertility and ballbag size of his prize bulls people still think of "Ryanair"

    It's nearly a version of product placement. The guy is a genius at self promotion for his company.

    He was speaking at a meeting for business's in the Midlands so not doing Ryanair stuff.

    Yeah he is associated with Ryanair, for good reason, but doing PR for them would mean taking about sales, Ryanair news, aviation news etc. which he clearly isn't doing here.


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    #61
    Idbatterim
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    how do the independents represent them, unless they are in power?


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