Dairy chit chat II

Mooooo

White Clover wrote: »

As in too much N? Would have got about 55 units N since early July.

Possibly, in drier weather more N may not have been used and is all coming together now with growthier conditions. Have heard it can sour grass. As mf said too tho, if they have been getting meal or silage they might just be giving out in the hopes of more the feckers

Say my name

White Clover wrote: »

What rate did u mix and spray the sea water?

I know this is an anonymous forum.
But still I'm not advising anyone to do it.

But just what I did myself.
4 or 5 litres/acre diluted 20:1 with non chlorine water.

Some say to dilute it out further to 30:1.
Obviously don't get it near a sewage discharge or industry.

From my own observations spray during the daytime. A cloudy day seems to be best and as long as there's good moisture in the ground and forecast.
Rinse out your sprayer very well beforehand. Possibly leave the lid off and let the sun shine in for a while too.

whelan2

orm0nd wrote: »

are you about dosing or vaccine?

Soiry dose for worms etc. Was pour on I used

White Clover

mf240 wrote: »

They are spoilt. Leave them there.

That was my first thought too!

charolais0153

White Clover wrote: »

That was my first thought too!

A lot of n in my opinion for this time of year. Grass lush As It is

jaymla627

Pretty sobering figure in the journal where j.k reckons they are looking at a 150k loss this year, really drives home the financial impact dairy farmers are facing heading into the winter with bills mounting and milk Cheques going to be getting smaller

stretch film

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Would ye rather they dumped it in the ocean, that was the kiwis attitude to it.
There only a by product and the general population need to stop using palm oil and palm kernel products not the farmers to be honest.

Exactly... not a tree planted for the bounty that is pke ...
Cart before the horseism

Gawddawggonnit

stretch film wrote: »

Exactly... not a tree planted for the bounty that is pke ...
Cart before the horseism

Mightn’t be such a bad idea if it was banned from entering the Eu so...

I think they want to ban the oil and PKE
from being allowed in, then to ban all products containing palm oil.
I would support such a ban.

whelan2

jaymla627 wrote: »

Pretty sobering figure in the journal where j.k reckons they are looking at a 150k loss this year, really drives home the financial impact dairy farmers are facing heading into the winter with bills mounting and milk Cheques going to be getting smaller

And tax bill to be paid

Gawddawggonnit

jaymla627 wrote: »

Pretty sobering figure in the journal where j.k reckons they are looking at a 150k loss this year, really drives home the financial impact dairy farmers are facing heading into the winter with bills mounting and milk Cheques going to be getting smaller

Aren’t they sitting on a couple of hundred thousand in the bank?
Comes in handy when a little blip happens.

jaymla627

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Aren’t they sitting on a couple of hundred thousand in the bank?
Comes in handy when a little blip happens.

120k, handy put away to be fair, when you are living hand to mouth re fodder stocks

stretch film

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Mightn’t be such a bad idea if it was banned from entering the Eu so...

I think they want to ban the oil and PKE
from being allowed in, then to ban all products containing palm oil.
I would support such a ban.

I still get confused sometimes about your stance on protectionism lol..
Bit like the non gmo aspirations it'll never make a value added base for milk just a new norm with added layers of cost imo

yosemitesam1

stretch film wrote: »

I still get confused sometimes about your stance on protectionism lol..
Bit like the non gmo aspirations it'll never make a value added base for milk just a new norm with added layers of cost imo

The majority of the oil goes to biodiesel. Its not a terrible idea to stop them chopping down rainforest and maybe put a more solid base under likes of osr

blackdog1

Don't know why people want palm kernel at all. It effects the milk and damages our green image. In NZ they are paying premiums to farmers who don't use it.

mahoney_j

blackdog1 wrote: »

Don't know why people want palm kernel at all. It effects the milk and damages our green image. In NZ they are paying premiums to farmers who don't use it.

And at end of the day it’s nothing only. ****e quality filler for rations .

stretch film

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

The majority of the oil goes to biodiesel. Its not a terrible idea to stop them chopping down rainforest and maybe put a more solid base under likes of osr

My tongue was well planted in my cheek.
No doubt Palm oil replacing plant and animal fats .it's not a bad idea at all Sam but there will be no premium for the primary producer.

Timmaay

Beet pulp nuts through the parlour? Will I have any issues, are they palatable enough?

freedominacup

Timmaay wrote: »

Beet pulp nuts through the parlour? Will I have any issues, are they palatable enough?

They were always legendary for forming lumps if that's any help to you.

stretch film

mahoney_j wrote: »

And at end of the day it’s nothing only. ****e quality filler for rations .

Filled a gap for many when max parlour nuts were fed and fodder short
Didn't drop cow's here.

Timmaay

freedominacup wrote: »

They were always legendary for forming lumps if that's any help to you.

So don't risk it ha?

mahoney_j

stretch film wrote: »

Filled a gap for many when max parlour nuts were fed and fodder short
Didn't drop cow's here.

No doubt they did and will again but hulls or beet pulp much better feed value .all things equal u wouldn’t like to see it in a mix

blackdog1

stretch film wrote:

Filled a gap for many when max parlour nuts were fed and fodder short Didn't drop cow's here.

I can understand why. When you don't have a diet feeder it's easy to feed in a field. Look it might be suitable during emergencies like some lads had but it wouldn't want to become the norm.

Still feeding silage here pushed the cows up 2.5 kgs of meal (2 barley and 0.5kg soya) and they went up 3 litres.

Gonna take at least a week maybe 2 before I can pull the silage.

stretch film

mahoney_j wrote: »

No doubt they did and will again but hulls or beet pulp much better feed value .all things equal u wouldn’t like to see it in a mix

Hulls used also. Low in protein% for high feeding rate I felt .
Fed 10 kgs dairy and hulls at one stage with pk in paddock and cow's were very content on little grass and milked v well.
Just my experience.

freedominacup

stretch film wrote: »

Hulls used also. Low in protein% for high feeding rate I felt .
Fed 10 kgs dairy and hulls at one stage with pk in paddock and cow's were very content on little grass and milked v well.
Just my experience.

You were literally just filling a gap with the pk. Too many thought there was performance to be got from it.

kevthegaff

We used to feed every spring with diet feeder in the field at home, worked well

stretch film

freedominacup wrote: »

You were literally just filling a gap with the pk. Too many thought there was performance to be got from it.

Yes fair enough to a point
Didn't see any promotion of it as anything else. But gap has/had to be filled and I was surprised and happy with it and the convenience involved.
Shur its all about sharing experiences on here lads.
It's something that punches above its weight I found .
The global sustainability questions and morals involved in feeding it are for another day.

Birdnuts

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

The majority of the oil goes to biodiesel. Its not a terrible idea to stop them chopping down rainforest and maybe put a more solid base under likes of osr

There's a proposal being voted on soon by MEP's to ban all palm oil imports for biofuel. The timeline though is nonsense - by 2030!! Not a tree will be left standing in SE Asia by then!!:(

Timmaay

freedominacup wrote: »

They were always legendary for forming lumps if that's any help to you.

Thank Fook I didn't blow them in, put them in the feed face for today's buffer and the cows weren't keen at all on them, took 3hrs to clean them out against 5mins with the hulls.

mahoney_j

Timmaay wrote: »

Thank Fook I didn't blow them in, put them in the feed face for today's buffer and the cows weren't keen at all on them, took 3hrs to clean them out against 5mins with the hulls.

Miolassed of unmollased Tim ??

orm0nd

Timmaay wrote: »

Thank Fook I didn't blow them in, put them in the feed face for today's buffer and the cows weren't keen at all on them, took 3hrs to clean them out against 5mins with the hulls.

found it took the cows over a week to take to them , now most of them are mopping them up

seems to be helping b/f and controlling mu and dungs are nice and solid