Dairy chit chat II

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

Milk urea gone crazy here, last one was 40 :eek::eek: I think it's down to fertiliser on the ground?

Extra bitof moisture and heat still there prob means more N going into the plant, prob faster in your place as you weren't at as much of a moisture deficit.? Prob best to follow cows instead of blanket spread fert

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

Extra bitof moisture and heat still there prob means more N going into the plant, prob faster in your place as you weren't at as much of a moisture deficit.? Prob best to follow cows instead of blanket spread fert

ye. hopefully todays rain will sort it out, not going with anymore fertiliser for a while , everywhere has been covered

freedominacup

Say my name wrote: »

You have scope there to go down to a 13% now if you wish.

Probably know about the risks of abortion on too high a milk urea.

Make sure the 13% is made up of high quality protein though. 10% soya with cereals and some hulls would get you there.

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

Milk urea gone crazy here, last one was 40 :eek::eek: I think it's down to fertiliser on the ground?

Don't blame my hat

RedPeppers

Reggie. wrote: »

Some lads are unreal. A few days rain. Next week is to be back to dry hot weather again. A few mixed days won't kill anyone

Not everyone is mad looking for rain believe it or not

FarmerDougal

RedPeppers wrote: »

Not everyone is mad looking for rain believe it or not

Correct. Savage year for grass here and wouldn’t care if it’s the last rain we get.

Reggie.

RedPeppers wrote: »

Not everyone is mad looking for rain believe it or not

Well there's more looking for if than not I'd say

straight

Reggie. wrote: »

Well there's more looking for if than not I'd say

Tis lucky that we have no control over it because there would be some war.

RedPeppers

Reggie. wrote: »

Well there's more looking for if than not I'd say

It doesn’t matter who’s looking for it or not no point jumping on the backs of lads who don’t want it

whelan2

Great to see everywhere greening up. Not as much of a demand on drinking water now either

mickey1985

Lads plagued with flies in the parlour causing the cows to kick off clusters. Any advice on what to treat them to prevent this?

whelan2

mickey1985 wrote: »

Lads plagued with flies in the parlour causing the cows to kick off clusters. Any advice on what to treat them to prevent this?

spot on

mickey1985

whelan2 wrote: »

spot on

Thanks. Neighbor of mine says its ineffective but worth seeing for myself.

whelan2

mickey1985 wrote: »

Thanks. Neighbor of mine says its ineffective but worth seeing for myself.

I used it a month ago. Worked here. Flies were bad this evening though. Doing cows with pour on for worms in the next few days and there's fly repellant in it too. Also find if you wet the parlour down before milking not as many flies come in. Or do half a row first and let them out and the flies will go out with them

Buford T. Justice XIX

Have Glanbia an option of paying back this year's purchased feed and fertiliser in 2019 and 2020? Just reading Aidan Brennan about it now.
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/dairy-management-finding-alternative-winter-feed-and-managing-cashflow-390750

whelan2

See effydral tablets are back in stock, wasnt able to get them for a long time around here.

whelan2

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Have Glanbia an option of paying back this year's purchased feed and fertiliser in 2019 and 2020? Just reading Aidan Brennan about it now.
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/dairy-management-finding-alternative-winter-feed-and-managing-cashflow-390750

Yes it will help some lads out , only downer is it's kicking the can down the road and we dont know what next year or the year after will bring.

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

Yes it will help some lads out , only downer is it's kicking the can down the road and we dont know what next year or the year after will bring.

My thoughts too, there'll be plenty of farmers not using it wisely, it'd remind you of the lending that went on in the early noughties.
Using long term credit for a recurring cost was never a great idea.

Wildsurfer

wrangler wrote: »

My thoughts too, there'll be plenty of farmers not using it wisely, it'd remind you of the lending that went on in the early noughties.
Using long term credit for a recurring cost was never a great idea.

We would be hoping not to get a recurrence of a year like this though

whelan2

Wildsurfer wrote: »

We would be hoping not to get a recurrence of a year like this though

Yes but if the bottom falls out of milk price etc. You never know what will happen. This year is a great example

wrangler

Wildsurfer wrote: »

We would be hoping not to get a recurrence of a year like this though

yea, use it wisely though, not because no other lending institution will touch you

straight

Heard a good one today. Farmers are prisoners in their own yard. A Lot of lads getting fairly sick of it now. No return for the hours that are put in and the risk, stress, etc.

wrangler

straight wrote: »

Heard a good one today. Farmers are prisoners in their own yard. A Lot of lads getting fairly sick of it now. No return for the hours that are put in and the risk, stress, etc.

Farmers are in a bad place now and farmer apathy is no help.....too many happy to take what they get.
Reminds me of hearing during the week that IFA had met all the factories over that last few days. I was that soldier once, meet the factory bosses, ask them not to screw us any more. They'd have the price dropped before the day was out and sometimes before we'd even get to the gate on the way out

straight

I must sell my stock bull. Is it worth holding on to him for a few more weeks? He's a 6 year old angus weighing about a ton.

Keepgrowing

wrangler wrote: »

yea, use it wisely though, not because no other lending institution will touch you

I’ve very mixed feelings on this scheme. It will suit many but I agree that someone already under pressure it may actually cause more harm than good. In some cases the hardcore in the current ac/ overdraft needs to be dealt with. Longer term finance would probably be a wiser first step. Then when cash flow is restored pay as you go.

A blip in milk price in 19 or 20 could cause some problems. On the whole I’d welcome it as it’s interest free money and I’ll always take that

greenfield21

Have a high reading from a few bloods for lepto. Should I vaccinate now or wait till next year before breeding.

older by the day

greenfield21 wrote: »

Have a high reading from a few bloods for lepto. Should I vaccinate now or wait till next year before breeding.

I vaccinate my spring calving herd in December, I only heard that it should be done in the breeding season recently. I never had a problem doing it when things were quiet and the cows dry. Ring the vet and ask, to make sure tho

Gawddawggonnit

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/feed-trade-calls-for-action-as-73-more-compound-feed-needed/



“Granular conversation”...?


Do the merchants or farmers need more credit from banks...?

...piling on more debt for farmers should come with a financial health warning. Another feed crisis or a crash in milk price in ‘19 or ‘20 would be sore, very sore.

whelan2

greenfield21 wrote: »

Have a high reading from a few bloods for lepto. Should I vaccinate now or wait till next year before breeding.

Lepto can cause abortions and is also harmful to humans. Vaccinating next year could be too late. We do ours in June each year and has worked OK so far. If it's your first time doing them they will have to get the initial injection and then a booster after. Talk to your vet. It could also be causing cows not to go in calf in this breeding season

GrasstoMilk

What sort of mats have ye got in your cubicles? Mayo mat still a decent one?