Dairy chit chat II

K.G.

ill admit i wouldnt be great with labour.decided to take a fella.on to do a job two days recently and he was a sound enough lad but there was stuff dumped in the wrong places and a bucket bent and twisted that made more work fir.me than he saved.i find the guys that you can say i need this this and that done and walk away are nearly always working for themselves or.at least willbe very soon

Mooooo

K.G. wrote: »

ill admit i wouldnt be great with labour.decided to take a fella.on to do a job two days recently and he was a sound enough lad but there was stuff dumped in the wrong places and a bucket bent and twisted that made more work fir.me than he saved.i find the guys that you can say i need this this and that done and walk away are nearly always working for themselves or.at least willbe very soon

Very lucky here., the lad here could walk into a site in the morning and get work but he prefers farming.

kowtow

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Yes, to a point. If you have only one or two lads there won't be any problems. When you're depending on people to be responsible and independent it's a different story. I can't be up sides everybody all the time, otherwise I may as well do it myself.


I put in a card clock in/out system to stop the blackguarding with hours. Caught a girl clocking the card for a guy yesterday and again this morning. Said nothing, yet.
Now I've to go and buy a fingerprint electronic system...or fire them??

Edit. I consider anyone that fiddles hours to be guilty of theft.

Theres an iphone / android app that handles timesheets and logins, is location sensitive so tricky to fiddle.

Gawddawggonnit

kowtow wrote: »

Theres an iphone / android app that handles timesheets and logins, is location sensitive so tricky to fiddle.

Excellent.
Thanks.

Markcheese

kowtow wrote:

Theres an iphone / android app that handles timesheets and logins, is location sensitive so tricky to fiddle.

Last place I worked had an i-pad which you had to tap in a pin number to clock in.. And then it took your photo.. Easy to see who was clocking in..

Gawddawggonnit

yewtree wrote: »

Its amazing what happens when you go out and look and treat good people well.

I've a man and his wife working here (Irish) that started with me nearly 25yrs ago at the age of fifteen. (Not the wife!). And many have tried to poach him from me over the years.
Irish, Brits, Aussies etc are no problem whatsoever, bar the dreamers of course.

It's the French that create all the bother. The education system starts them at age 13 to follow a certain career path. That then creates a 'them and us' mentality, coupled with French labour law...if they can manage/wangle to work 39hrs in a week, they are then entitled to a full day off, of their choice, with pay. Hence the constant fiddling of hours. The manipulation of hours also helps them to gain longer holidays, again with pay!

Any trustworthy employee gets treated very well indeed...anyone taking the p1ss and I come down on them like a ton of bricks. It's a two-way street.

darragh_haven

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

What did they set you back?
What about someone plugging out the system?

The account sourced it, £259 sterling. Never though about unplugging it, but there is a battery included in it so the stored data is kept.

whelan2

Any reports from the IGA walk?

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

Any reports from the IGA walk?

Weather fine after a lovely dinner. 2nd talk just starting now

leg wax

does anyone know if there is a month as such that if your protein average for that is x then that will be roughly be your average protein for the year,, so is it 6 months into lactation ,,, sorry if i confused anyone

kowtow

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Weather fine after a lovely dinner. 2nd talk just starting now

B****d I didn't make it up there, having bought a ticket as well.

Whole pile of things at short notice.

Give us a comprehensive update!

Water John

Kowtow, beef, new potatoes, carrots and celery.

kowtow

Water John wrote: »

Kowtow, beef, new potatoes, carrots and celery.

At least you've four of your five a day taken care of!

#jealous

Water John

As you know , 5 a day was simply a marketing ploy. No basis in science.

kowtow

Water John wrote: »

As you know , 5 a day was simply a marketing ploy. No basis in science.

As my late Father said when the doctor set him on a strict health regime, this diet food is all very well, but you wouldn't know whether to eat it before or after meals?

the_blue_oval

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I put in a card clock in/out system to stop the blackguarding with hours. Caught a girl clocking the card for a guy yesterday and again this morning. Said nothing, yet.
Now I've to go and buy a fingerprint electronic system...or fire them??

Edit. I consider anyone that fiddles hours to be guilty of theft.

They'd both be getting the gate if it was me anyway..

Could you set up a cctv camera watching where they have to clock in, and if you've any suspicions just check then who really signed in/out at those times, and maybe just do random checks on it every so often to see if everything is matching up? Might be a cheaper alternative...

The part time boy

kowtow wrote: »

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Yes, to a point. If you have only one or two lads there won't be any problems. When you're depending on people to be responsible and independent it's a different story. I can't be up sides everybody all the time, otherwise I may as well do it myself.


I put in a card clock in/out system to stop the blackguarding with hours. Caught a girl clocking the card for a guy yesterday and again this morning. Said nothing, yet.
Now I've to go and buy a fingerprint electronic system...or fire them??

Edit. I consider anyone that fiddles hours to be guilty of theft.

Theres an iphone / android app that handles timesheets and logins, is location sensitive so tricky to fiddle.

Do u have a name ?

yewtree

leg wax wrote: »

does anyone know if there is a month as such that if your protein average for that is x then that will be roughly be your average protein for the year,, so is it 6 months into lactation ,,, sorry if i confused anyone

Advisor told me before that the july protein is very close to what most herds average for the year, maybe not what your asking

kowtow

The part time boy wrote: »

Do u have a name ?

I knew someone here reminded me of it!

It's called "Deputy"

MF290

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Yes, to a point. If you have only one or two lads there won't be any problems. When you're depending on people to be responsible and independent it's a different story. I can't be up sides everybody all the time, otherwise I may as well do it myself.


I put in a card clock in/out system to stop the blackguarding with hours. Caught a girl clocking the card for a guy yesterday and again this morning. Said nothing, yet.
Now I've to go and buy a fingerprint electronic system...or fire them??

Edit. I consider anyone that fiddles hours to be guilty of theft.

If the shortage of anyway decent workers is that bad, it doesn't seem like you can afford to let them go....

leg wax

yewtree wrote: »

Advisor told me before that the july protein is very close to what most herds average for the year, maybe not what your asking

yes it is thanks

The part time boy

kowtow wrote: »

The part time boy wrote: »

Do u have a name ?

I knew someone here reminded me of it!

It's called "Deputy"

Thanks

Gawddawggonnit

Our friendly milk processor is considering forcing suppliers to produce GMO free milk. In other words they won't pay extra...
This is nicely fitting in with a visit from Chinese buyers of our baby formula. I (stupidly) agreed that the visitors could come on farm for a nose about.

Anyhoooww good news folks...atm we're getting 33cpl + vat + 2cpl seasonality bonus (our own money, redistributed) for July/Aug/Sept. For Oct/Nov/Dec we're guaranteed a minimum of 35cpl + vat, which will probably be 36cpl but won't know until Sept.
I wonder will this translate into a hard market for dairy farms?

Timmaay

Does 36c translate to you loading on cows and driving on output ha?

Gawddawggonnit

Timmaay wrote: »

Does 36c translate to you loading on cows and driving on output ha?

We're fairly well stocked atm and trying to max production. If new season maize turns out as good as it looks, then yes we'll be loading up on cows.

Sure there's only one way to cure high prices...

whelan2

Had a couple of calves with coccidiosis last week, I brought them home and vet came out. They are now finished their treatment, would you put them back out or leave them in for the rest of the season, the rest of the group are on nice aftergrass

Water John

Cocc. is a dirty thing, gut damage. They might need a bit of meal to stop them falling behind. If you had a sheltered spot close to the yard, good bit left in the grass season.

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a couple of calves with coccidiosis last week, I brought them home and vet came out. They are now finished their treatment, would you put them back out or leave them in for the rest of the season, the rest of the group are on nice aftergrass

Tbh id keep them in, had one got it last year and kept her in. Plenty roughage and keep the meal to them. Put decox in meal here for spring calves till autumn

GrasstoMilk

Grass still powering on here. 85 gr last week. 10t grown to date

stanflt

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Grass still powering on here. 85 gr last week. 10t grown to date

Grass powering on here to at least 5 ton grown so far