Road issues that irritate me.......

murpho999

Heard a story in work about an incident some colleague's family member had and said that the main worry was that he was driving alone on a 'provisional' (now learner) licence.

I said he should not be on the road as he's not qualified to drive and everybody disagreed with me and found it fine to drive on a learner licence.

This is just so wrong. Shows how the system does not work.

ohnonotgmail

murpho999 wrote: »

Heard a story in work about an incident some colleague's family member had and said that the main worry was that he was driving alone on a 'provisional' (now learner) licence.

I said he should not be on the road as he's not qualified to drive and everybody disagreed with me and found it fine to drive on a learner licence.

This is just so wrong. Shows how the system does not work.

surely that just shows you that people are idiots? no system can fix that.

Shenshen

NiallBoo wrote: »

So don't go 80, or 50. Happy days.

The fact remains that you can't waste effort assigning an individual limit for every little bit of the 100,000km of our road network - 78,000km of which are L roads.

I'll remember that next time I get shouted down for stating that the speed limit on the vast majority of roads it too high rather than too low.
And next time I've got someone sitting in my boot because they feel that if they don't reach the designated limit, people might make assumptions about the size of their genitalia.

NiallBoo

Shenshen wrote: »

I'll remember that next time I get shouted down for stating that the speed limit on the vast majority of roads it too high rather than too low.
And next time I've got someone sitting in my boot because they feel that if they don't reach the designated limit, people might make assumptions about the size of their genitalia.

Heh, well...hmmm

Well as I said in another comment, you have to use judgment...(though sitting up someone's årse is always a bit dim IMO)

Aside from that, most roads != most journeys. honestly, L roads get too much resources as it is.

murpho999

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

surely that just shows you that people are idiots? no system can fix that.

Yes, but I was surprised that about 90% of 10 people found it ok.

I do wonder how many are out alone on roads driving on learner permits.

km991148

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes, but I was surprised that about 90% of 10 people found it ok.

I do wonder how many are out alone on roads driving on learner permits.

That seems to be a specific attitude in Ireland, where after a few lessons people are happy to jump in and drive themselves unaccompanied.

chewed

Cars that overtake you on the motorway then pull in front of you and slow down so that you have to overtake them!!!

Kintarō Hattori

As a cyclist and road user both parties are hardly angels but I was particularly irked by the lack of etiquette displayed by some Drogheda cyclists a few weeks back. It was around 10am on a Saturday morning I was heading up the road in the picture to the retail park. There was a large-ish group of cyclists, about 20-30 in a group and they were cycling 4 wide on the road.
I understand the need to take command of the road if you feel it's dangerous but this is a wide, clear, smooth section of road and it was simply bad manners. They hogged the whole width of the road not allowing anyone to pass safely.

citytillidie

People who in wet conditions drive as if the road is dry, people speeding up to get out of a junction causing those on the main road to slow down

Boom_Bap

When you are in waiting at a roundabout in the left lane at the curved line.
A car beside you pulls up on the right lane and goes over the curved line and blocks your view.

Stay behind the line ya p0x.

citytillidie

Speaking of roundabouts, people using the left lane to turn right blocking those trying to go straight ahead

NiallBoo

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes, but I was surprised that about 90% of 10 people found it ok.

I do wonder how many are out alone on roads driving on learner permits.

Could be a bit of group psychology there.

I'd say if you asked them one-to-one you'd get different results.

duffman3833

from glancing through this tread i think the top complaints are between roundabouts and indicators

MetzgerMeister

People who call it "road tax"

People who call it "the fast lane"

People who forget to cancel their indicators and then give you the finger because you pulled out in front of them

Basically people in general :pac:

Son Of A Vidic

Driving along and then there's a monsoon-like downpour, suddenly a lot of drivers pick up the speed and start tail-gating each other. Why?... probably because some fúcktards just haven't a clue what they're at behind the wheel.

Zubeneschamali

NiallBoo wrote: »

So don't go 80, or 50. Happy days.

The fact remains that you can't waste effort assigning an individual limit for every little bit of the 100,000km of our road network - 78,000km of which are L roads.

Grand so, let's just set the limit everywhere to 200 kph, and we'll all use our judgement.

Since clearly the limit is nothing to do with how fast it is safe to travel on a given road.

AndrewJRenko

NiallBoo wrote: »

It would be better to say that you should drive at the (quickest*) speed suitable to the road/vehicle/conditions or to the speed limit - whichever one is slower.

Or in other words - the limit should be a target, unless there's a reason it shouldn't.

*out of consideration to other road users

Just to clarify - other road users aren't just inside motor vehicles. There are road users outside road vehicles who you need to consider too. The quickest speed is probably not showing consideration to vulnerable road users.

NiallBoo

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Just to clarify - other road users aren't just inside motor vehicles. There are road users outside road vehicles who you need to consider too. The quickest speed is probably not showing consideration to vulnerable road users.

I agree with what you're saying and would consider all of that to be covered under "road conditions".
I take it to be a catch-all term that includes stuff like weather, road surface, slower moving cars, tractors, bikes, drunk people...whatever.

So when I say the fastest speed allowing for conditions, I mean taking into account what you can see and what you can't.

OldMrBrennan83

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red ears

People pulling out in front of you and leaving you to hit the breaks to avoid a crash. They know you have seen them and have plenty of time to slow down but its really annoying all the same.

durtybit

red ears wrote: »

People pulling out in front of you and leaving you to hit the breaks to avoid a crash. They know you have seen them and have plenty of time to slow down but its really annoying all the same.

If you have plenty of time to slow down how does the crash scenario appear? Sound like an issue with merging traffic

red ears

durtybit wrote: »

If you have plenty of time to slow down how does the crash scenario appear? Sound like an issue with merging traffic

I've seen it done on to main roads with traffic travelling at 100km. Its dangerous.

durtybit

red ears wrote: »

I've seen it done on to main roads with traffic travelling at 100km. Its dangerous.

Dangerous if you have to swerve to avoid, but it if you have plenty of room slow down to the merging traffic where is the danger?

red ears

durtybit wrote: »

Dangerous if you have to swerve to avoid, but it if you have plenty of room slow down to the merging traffic where is the danger?

I probably shouldn't have said plenty of time because sometimes it is very late.

picturehangup

Was driving on narrow country road earlier today, possibly some icy patches still there from yesterday.
Was on my side, close to verge, driving slowly. Idiot coming towards me, at three times my speed, I was practically stopped when I saw it/her speeding towards me, as person walking with dog my side, Idiot passed me, in opposite direction, and blew me with horn off the road, as if I had been the speeding vehicle. xxudking idiot.

Means Of Escape

Hazard warning lights used to "thank " a driver who has pulled in (illegally )over the hard shoulder line to let them pass .

Atlantic Dawn

My new irritation is bellends who have fitted electric gates to their property that don't have enough room for them to move in from the road and wait for them to open, instead they hold up all the traffic while they await entry to their pad, selfish c words.

mikeymouse

durtybit wrote: »

Dangerous if you have to swerve to avoid, but it if you have plenty of room slow down to the merging traffic where is the danger?

He said 'People pulling out in front of you and leaving you to hit the breaks to avoid a crash ,nothing about merging.
if someone causes you to hit the brakes it is dangerous.

Sam Kade

red ears wrote: »

I've seen it done on to main roads with traffic travelling at 100km. Its dangerous.

Yeah fools parked on the hard shoulder then decide to merge onto the driving lane with traffic approaching at 100 kph, idiots.

durtybit

mikeymouse wrote: »

He said 'People pulling out in front of you and leaving you to hit the breaks to avoid a crash ,nothing about merging.
if someone causes you to hit the brakes it is dangerous.

He also said he had plenty of time to slow down, but has since cleared that up.