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You have no problem dismissing a possible challenge to your mode of thinking without actually knowing what he is saying? Are you afraid he might say something that will stir insecurity? Doubt over the product you have chosen and idea you have spent so much energy defending?
This is expending energy? This is idling.
Like I said, if you want to transcribe whatever your mans points are I might respond, I'm not going to spend 15 minutes listening to his guff though. I will bet that one of them boils down to him being a large lad who isn't too keen on physical effort aka disability.Falthyron wrote:I believe it is a gimmick that won't last beyond those wealthy enough to afford it and that VR won't become mainstream.Falthyron wrote:I did not dismiss VR, I said it will probably work as a niche product.
It's a gimmick VS didn't dismiss it. Make your mind up there chief.
Falthyron wrote:However, it is difficult to find people who are willing to remain objective on a product when they have forked out €400+ on it. You think its healthy to cast aside objective criticism just because you bought into it?
the only two objective criticisms that you've managed have already been safely discounted as misinformed bollocks, unless you care to retort.
If you want to try make some more I'm willing to run the rule over them.
Also, The Vive and Oculus are around €850 euros plus the PC to play it. If it was a dud I'd have sold it on at a loss. I've forked out for stuff that wasn't worth the price in the past. C'est la vie. Although funnily enough I've never bought a 3D TV, PS Move, Kinect, HD-DVDs, Mini-discs or a Betamax. Probably because I know the difference between a new & improved marketing pitch and a genuinely ground breaking piece of kit. Although betamax was that, it just lost out to a different implementation of the same concept.0 -
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This is expending energy? This is idling.
Like I said, if you want to transcribe whatever your mans points are I might respond, I'm not going to spend 15 minutes listening to his guff though. I will bet that one of them boils down to him being a large lad who isn't too keen on physical effort aka disability.
It's a gimmick VS didn't dismiss it. Make your mind up there chief.
the only two objective criticisms that you've managed have already been safely discounted as misinformed bollocks, unless you care to retort.
If you want to try make some more I'm willing to run the rule over them.
Also, The Vive and Oculus are around €850 euros plus the PC to play it. If it was a dud I'd have sold it on at a loss. I've forked out for stuff that wasn't worth the price in the past. C'est la vie. Although funnily enough I've never bought a 3D TV, PS Move, Kinect, HD-DVDs, Mini-discs or a Betamax. Probably because I know the difference between a new & improved marketing pitch and a genuinely ground breaking piece of kit. Although betamax was that, it just lost out to a different implementation of the same concept.
Ok, if you don't want to answer my questions I will leave you to your blind devotion. Good luck.0 -
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Retr0gamer wrote: »I've a friend that is even more deep into games than me (contributor to some very obscure game articles on hardcore gaming 101) that loves easy allies and the likes of giantbomb. Says they are great entertainment and that's why he listens to them but says you'll learn nothing from them. They're not going to rock the boat of challenge anything in the press or gaming news.
Agreed with you about Gametrailers but then I only ever used them to watch trailers for upcoming games
I think your being unfair to Giantbomb who I always felt came across as one of the more honest sites and youtube channels in their coverage and have never been ones to shy away from giving both positive and negative feedback on various elements of the gaming industry, unlike some clowns who fawn over every new title or a fence sitter like Angry Joe who while very entertaining, tends to wait to see how the public react to a game before releasing his views.
And while the pro VR folks rant and rave about it being the future, until there are a few must have games that VR kicks up into a totally next level, buying into the hardware right now just seems like a complete waste of money. As for all the BS about the tech being new, the development kits have been around for years yet there is still no killer app/game/reason to own one.0 -
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the development kits have been around for years yet there is still no killer app/game/reason to own one.
first htc/valve dev kit was in late 2014 and it was only released to a very select number of companies, second one which was actually released to a decent amount of companies was the pre dev kit in january 2016
But please, do continue, years you say?
As far as I'm concerned tilt brush alone is a good enough reason to own a VR set. Might not be for everyone though
H3VR, Onward, DCS World, Virtual Desktop, the Thrill of the fight, Vanishing Realms. You could probably add rec room but that its not my thing.
All doing something that has not been done before, not bad for mostly small devs pumpin gout content six months after launch.
No COD:Moonwars or whatever is big on the consoles as of yet though, somehow one struggles on.
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first htc/valve dev kit was in late 2014 and it was only released to a very select number of companies, second one which was actually released to a decent amount of companies was the pre dev kit in january 2016
But please, do continue, years you say?
As far as I'm concerned tilt brush alone is a good enough reason to own a VR set. Might not be for everyone though
H3VR, Onward, DCS World, Virtual Desktop, the Thrill of the fight, Vanishing Realms. You could probably add rec room but that its not my thing.
All doing something that has not been done before, not bad for mostly small devs pumpin gout content six months after launch.
No COD:Moonwars or whatever is big on the consoles as of yet though, somehow one struggles on.
Not having a go, but I have genuinely never heard of a single game you just mentioned.0 -
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SeantheMan wrote: »Which seems strange to me, because 2 of the games they ALWAYS harp on about are the Souls series, and Persona series.....which I think I've seen you talk about plenty of times :P
Yeah but they're not exactly niche anymore. I still remember Giant Bomb saying the combat in Demon's Souls was beyond terrible. I nearly punched my car radio when I heard that.
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The problem with VR at the moment is that it doesn't have an essential game for it on any platform.
I was going to head out this morning and get a PSVR on a whim but I changed my mind once I looked at the launch lineup and realized nearly all the games are just tech demos that you'd knock a couple of hours fun out of and never touch again.
For €400+ before you even buy a game I'd want to get something that I won't be done with after one decent day of gaming
The tech is there but the games simply aren't yet.
Saw a guy on another site saying he was going to pick up a second hand one in a month or two when Ebay ends up flooded with all the units that people aren't using any more so they will be selling them for Christmas money. I reckon his is not too wrong with his thinking that this is a good plan.
I dont know about that, I've been playing elite for years with vr and i still get a jaw dropping WOW in just about every time i've played.
I have a triple screen setup using 3 42inch screens at 5870x1080 which is absolutely stunning to use, However, i have mabey played about an hour of elite on it, and have hundreds of hours of playing elite on vr, There is simply no comparison between the two.0 -
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Nope,44,single and no kids, that was my one room apartment which has since been knocked and rebuilt bigger and better.
It started life as the garage at the end of my mother's garden, but with the cost of housing in dublin, I added my own entrance and expanded over the years.
One door is my bathroom, the other is to a common garden with a separate entrance, and it's far enough away from the surrounding houses that i can watch movies with the the 6.1 turned up high.
Makes me feel a little better, only a little :P Still jealous though :P
I thought SkateDude was maybe the son of a EuroMillions winner or something.....what was her name...Deloris or something who won 100 mill.
I honestly thought it was some kind of old castle or completely done up house going by your doors.
Also...as someone else mentioned.....7up Free....pffffft.0 -
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Temptamperu wrote: »Some of us only have man corners
into my man corner for a cry
the techist in me wants you to change those 3 tvs for 3 4k tvs or 3 x34 ultrawides but what an awesome setup :cool:0
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