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Budget 2017

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    #302
    nhunter100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    sjb25 wrote:
    If I want an extra €150 at that expensive time of the year I've to go to work and work about 12 extra hours to make that away from my family but hey why would I begrudge sum body who can sit on there hole at home getting the same.........


    You saying everyone who is on SW chooses that lifestyle? Cop on.


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    #303
    Gandalph
    Registered Users Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    In relation to Noonan mentioning that he will review the tax loopholes in section 110 in the funds industry; what happens next?


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    #304
    nhunter100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    MeatTwoVeg wrote:
    Hope you're not planning for your retirement on that basis.


    Those of us in the private sector who have planned for our retirement watched as the pervious government raided our pensions. Doesn't really encourage you to plan ahead when the government can decide to rob you of the funds you have set aside.


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    #305
    RiseToMe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭RiseToMe


    We're 17 euro a week better off, better than a kick in the hole, but would have preferred to see USC go altogether.


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    #306
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Gandalph wrote: »
    In relation to Noonan mentioning that he will review the tax loopholes in section 110 in the funds industry; what happens next?

    Is Noonan fit for the job at all? he was doing some shaking giving his speech.


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    #307
    Gringo180
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Min wage gone up a massive 10c per hour. Scandalous :pac:


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    #308
    sjb25
    Registered Users Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭sjb25


    nhunter100 wrote: »
    You saying everyone who is on SW chooses that lifestyle? Cop on.

    Not everyone like I said I was on the dole I didn't but sure as hell is a lot who do and they don't deserve a bonus I didn't expect one when I was on the dole I didn't get one why should they its not nice being on the dole but to make things better you go get a job!!!


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    #309
    kazamo
    Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭kazamo


    tea and coffee wrote: »
    It depends on the industry and if they had kept their skills fresh if that was required (e.g would not be for admin more than likely, but would be required for IT). If it were the case that "noone hires long term unemployed" then mothers who have gone back to work would never get a job again, if they decided to take a career break to stay at home.
    You can't just take it as black and white like that. I am talking about long-term career dole-rs here. If you think that they don't exist and all can't work due to "mental health" issues then you are living under a rock, sorry!

    Oh I know they exist, but it's like the recruiter who was on Marion Finucane's programme a couple of years ago. He was telling everyone how marvellous and great he was. When he has a role to fill he gets the list of applicants and the first cut is anyone not working. Doesn't even look at their CV's.
    He was asked why, and his response was, I need to reduce the CV's I have to look at and that's the first step.

    That attitude is not isolated


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    #310
    LegallyAbroad
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭LegallyAbroad


    nhunter100 wrote: »
    Those of us in the private sector who have planned for our retirement watched as the pervious government raided our pensions. Doesn't really encourage you to plan ahead when the government can decide to rob you of the funds you have set aside.

    When did this happen?

    The NPRF was funded from the public purse.


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    #311
    nhunter100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    tea and coffee wrote:
    But we are back at nearly full employment now according to the latest figures, so, in general, the option is (should be ) there


    Full employment is classed as 4% last I head it had dipped slightly below 8% . That's still a big difference. Represents almost 200k people. Last I checked there was not 200k vacancies.


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    #312
    The Bishop Basher
    Registered Users Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    nhunter100 wrote: »
    You saying everyone who is on SW chooses that lifestyle? Cop on.

    You saying that nobody on SW chooses that lifestyle ? Cop on.


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    #313
    draiochtanois
    Registered Users Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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    #314
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,183 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I don't work and that will make feck all difference to me.

    Now if you don't mind I have another 4 hours of trawling through job sites scheduled for today.


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    #315
    PARlance
    Registered Users Posts: 21,119 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    You obviously didn't hear about the €5 tax on needless threads.


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    #316
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,178 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    People working for ~€40,000 p.a. are getting about a fiver a week as well, with the adjustments to the USC rates. Yay! :D


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    #317
    Joshua J
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    For real?. Back on the scratcher I go. So long suckers......


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    #318
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Joshua J wrote: »
    For real?. Back on the scratcher I go. So long suckers......

    Dont worry, they'll be getting €3.50 of it back from your 20 a day habit.


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    #319
    nhunter100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    LegallyAbroad wrote:
    The NPRF was funded from the public purse.


    The pervious government imposed a levy for 4 years on private pension funds.
    The NPRF is nothing got to do with the private sector other than taking tax payer money and putting it into that fund.


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    #320
    longshanks
    Registered Users Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    sjb25 wrote: »
    Not everyone like I said I was on the dole I didn't but sure as hell is a lot who do and they don't deserve a bonus I didn't expect one when I was on the dole I didn't get one why should they its not nice being on the dole but to make things better you go get a job!!!

    Subtitles anyone?


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    #321
    nhunter100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    Swanner wrote:
    You saying that nobody on SW chooses that lifestyle ? Cop on.


    257k on the live register not including those hidden on various schemes. You have a link to maybe 200k odd jobs these people can apply for?


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    #322
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    PARlance wrote: »
    You obviously didn't hear about the €5 tax on needless threads.

    Kneemos is rich..... rich beyond his/her wildest dreams!


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    #323
    Kal El
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Kal El


    Swanner wrote: »
    Well done you.. :rolleyes:



    Yes I do. They get free money all year. If that's not enough for them they always have the option to find a job and earn it instead.



    I work extremely hard to make sure it's not but then i suppose that's the difference between those of us who choose to work and those of use who don't.

    Im going to be that guy to say you lost this argument, sorry sunshine


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    #324
    railer201
    Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Must be Fiver Tuesday - where's Joe ?


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    #325
    nhunter100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    Swanner wrote:
    You saying that nobody on SW chooses that lifestyle ? Cop on.





    If the lifestyle is so great why are you working?


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    #326
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Pretty disappointing to see the focus on pensions in the SW aspect. That payment is ultimately a free for all even if some already have pretty healthy private pensions too.

    I find the 9% subsidy tax for hostipality to be rather unfair too. The industry has completely recovered, now it's just lining the pockets of hotel owners in Dublin...

    There has been almost no courageous decision that stands out for me. I would only have increased the job seeker allowance by 2 euro this year and start the increase in January, same with the pension.


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    #327
    MeatTwoVeg
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    Let's be honest, anyone on the dole for over 5 years has no intention of working. There's plenty of jobs out there for those who want them.

    SW should be a safety net, not a lifestyle choice.


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    #328
    PARlance
    Registered Users Posts: 21,119 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Pension €5, Dole €5, Average Worker €5.
    There you have it, the Fiver Budget.

    Means fcuk all to everyone on an individual basis but will cost the Country a whole pile. They should have just forgot about changing anything and put the savings towards reducing the National Debt.


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    #329
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    nhunter100 wrote: »
    257k on the live register not including those hidden on various schemes. You have a link to maybe 200k odd jobs these people can apply for?

    Why do we need half a million foreign workers to work in the service industry etc if we have all these Irish people looking for work?


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    #330
    Iang87
    Registered Users Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    nhunter100 wrote: »
    If the lifestyle is so great why are you working?

    You genuinely think that everyone on SW wants a job. You're being ridiculous. So many make a choice to be on it because you can get everything that goes with it. Rent allowance, free house, heating bonus half the year and a horse in your garden


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    #331
    nhunter100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    MeatTwoVeg wrote:
    Let's be honest, anyone on the dole for over 5 years has no intention of working. There's plenty of jobs out there for those who want them.


    During the height of the boom there was 120k on SW: job seekers/ long term illness etc about 4% was the official figure. There is now according to the CSO 257k on the live register excluding all those on schemes. How many job vacancies throughout the state do you think there is?


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