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J. Marston

Big name returning tonight

Nia. Sorry.

The White Wolf

:mad:

PTH2009

The orton vs drew feud has started but but Drew has to survive Ziggler tonight and we all knw he will

JP Liz V1

So Orton just demands a Drew title match, I'm guessing he will do more later

PTH2009

Jesus look at Alistair Blacks shoes

They should just have padding on the steps or at least tell Rollins he can't keep trying to blind people

Itssoeasy

I’d love to know why Asuka stays in WWE I really do. Sasha banks has x-pac heat with me and she should have stayed away the time she went home. If Vince has any faith in here in 2016 he’d have given her an actual title reign that mattered but he didn’t so why was that ?

The White Wolf

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So Orton just demands a Drew title match, I'm guessing he will do more later

I imagine Drew will lose because it seems they have the horn for Orton who gave an excellent promo and all, but who the **** wants to see him as champion in 2020?

Terrible to say Drew's reign began and ended with Dolph fcuking Ziggler.

J. Marston

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I’d love to know why Asuka stays in WWE I really do. Sasha banks has x-pac heat with me and she should have stayed away the time she went home. If Vince has any faith in here in 2016 he’d have given her an actual title reign that mattered but he didn’t so why was that ?

I disagree with narrative that Asuka is misused. She has won every single thing there is to win in WWE; NXT, Raw, Smackdown, Tag titles, Royal Rumble, MITB, even the Mixed Match Challenge! She also beat Goldberg's unbeaten record. She is clearly valued.

As for Sasha and Bayley, this is the least I've watched WWE in the last 15 years and they're the reason why. Polluting every single show. The ratings show that they're poison too.

The White Wolf

J. Marston wrote: »

I disagree with narrative that Asuka is misused. She has won every single thing there is to win in WWE; NXT, Raw, Smackdown, Tag titles, Royal Rumble, MITB, even the Mixed Match Challenge! She also beat Goldberg's unbeaten record. She is clearly valued.

As for Sasha and Bayley, this is the least I've watched WWE in the last 15 years and they're the reason why. Polluting every single show. The ratings show that they're poison too.

She hasn't had one decent run with a title on the main roster. I'm just glad it's Sasha that they chose to beat her instead of Jax or Baszler.....shudder.

J. Marston

J. Marston wrote: »

As for Sasha and Bayley, this is the least I've watched WWE in the last 15 years and they're the reason why. Polluting every single show. The ratings show that they're poison too.

I hate the pair of them. And not in the ''they're heels, they're doing their job'' way. More in a ''fast forward the entire segment'' way.

ricero

Totally disagree. Sasha and Bayley have been fantastic as a heel duo and have kept the womens division interesting especially with Ronda, Becky and Charlotte all gone. Bayley as a heel is so much better.

Hopefully they keep this up and have a returning Ronda or Becky (perhaps both even as a team) comeback and destroy the pair next Wrestlemania. Long-term storytelling.

Also, Orton vs Drew should be excellent.

Furious-Red

Omackeral wrote: »

I hate the pair of them. And not in the ''they're heels, they're doing their job'' way. More in a ''fast forward the entire segment'' way.

Will Sasha throw another temper tantrum when she eventually loses the titles?

Have to say ive no interest in Sasha/Bayley holding all the titles and therefore showing up on both SD/Raw each week as its just the same promos over and over again.

I feel sorry for Asuka/Kairi who are just being wasted atm even though they are superior to Bayley/Banks

ricero

ricero wrote: »

Totally disagree. Sasha and Bayley have been fantastic as a heel duo and have kept the womens division interesting.

Sorry, what I meant to say was they are the gold standard.

J. Marston

ricero wrote: »

Totally disagree. Sasha and Bayley have been fantastic as a heel duo and have kept the womens division interesting especially with Ronda, Becky and Charlotte all gone. Bayley as a heel is so much better.

Hopefully they keep this up and have a returning Ronda or Becky (perhaps both even as a team) comeback and destroy the pair next Wrestlemania. Long-term storytelling.

Also, Orton vs Drew should be excellent.

I'll be long finished with WWE if those two are still doing this shtick by Wrestlemania.

It's not even kept to one show, it's infesting all of them. They're trying to build Sasha occasionally looking at Bayley's belt as some master-level storytelling when it isn't.

The 4HW have dominated for too long. Lacey, Bianca, Ruby even. Try something new.

CastorTroy

I woke up this morning and realised I wasn't a millionaire. does that mean that I'm now entitled to be a millionaire?
What has Randy done to earn a title shot? Beat up retired/formerly retired/should be retired guys?

I guess Shayna's going to be involuntarily getting some time off if she has to go against Nia. Can't see it being a triple threat title match with 3 heels. Though I know Asuka will be still in it somehow. Is that Kairi written out now?

Was hoping Murphy wouldn't do the steps thing.

Shelton proving to be the greatest 24/7 champion, managing to survive 2 rollups

Agent Coulson

I really like what they are doing with Charly and Zelina however when Charly vs Zelina is the best most interesting feud you have in the biggest wrestling organisation in the world something is really wrong.


Orton, Jax just no.

The tag teams are being messed about to much.

Also since you had Steph telling Sasha she isn't the real women's champion why isn't she telling MVP he isn't the real US champ?


Horrible creative from the WWE and it continues to get worse week in week out.

I like Drew he has the look of a champion he can go in the ring he can talk however there is just something missing for me maybe for Drew it is the lack of fans or bad creative but he doesn't draw me in to watch him every week.

Saying that there is no one in the WWE right now that makes me want to watch week in week out really and that has to be down to creative as there is so many talented guys and girls there.

I take the last part back some what MVP and his Stable draw me back.

Agent Coulson

Also Steph saying if any Role Model gets involved in any way Sasha will be disqualified.


So now Bayley beating up Kairi on the big screen distracting Asuka is not getting involved.


More absolute bollix from head of creative Prichard to defend on the pod in a few years when he is sacked again as a genius idea.

CastorTroy

Who was responsible for putting the fight on the big screen? They're the ones responsible for Asuka losing.

J. Marston

CastorTroy wrote: »

I guess Shayna's going to be involuntarily getting some time off if she has to go against Nia. Can't see it being a triple threat title match with 3 heels. Though I know Asuka will be still in it somehow. Is that Kairi written out now?

Yep, she has said her farewells...

https://twitter.com/KairiSaneWWE/status/1287935624305979392

CastorTroy

Bayley killed Kairi!

RollieFingers

Hopefully Kairi ends up back in Stardom.

JP Liz V1

They should have let Asuka get her title back and get a goodbye happy send off for Kairi

Agent Coulson

The Asuka/Kairi were a hundred times more entertaining than Bayley/Sasha partnership and it's a pity the wrong one is splitting up.


Asuka will drop back down into midcard while the boring Bayley/Sasha get to keep main eventing next with Steph.

PTH2009

Actually looking forward to Drew vs Orton. Real heavyweight style match with both guys of similar sizes

Rollins should be pulled up for fighting a non wrestler in Dominik. Deff leading to some sort of tag match at summerslam

JP Liz V1

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Asuka will drop back down into midcard while the boring Bayley/Sasha get to keep main eventing next with Steph.

Is Steph getting back in the ring for Sasha?

Itssoeasy

J. Marston wrote: »

I disagree with narrative that Asuka is misused. She has won every single thing there is to win in WWE; NXT, Raw, Smackdown, Tag titles, Royal Rumble, MITB, even the Mixed Match Challenge! She also beat Goldberg's unbeaten record. She is clearly valued.

As for Sasha and Bayley, this is the least I've watched WWE in the last 15 years and they're the reason why. Polluting every single show. The ratings show that they're poison too.

On the main roster she's not been used like nxt asuka which fair enough she isnt alone in having that happen to but asuka does seem like too nice a person to ask why this is the booking.

I'm down on Bayley by association to Sasha because I like Bayley and even though the heel change was strange it's worked whereas I couldn't care less about Sasha banks.

It's like the female version of the two man power trip with Austin and triple h which is remembered better than it may have been because hhhtore his quad so it was brief.

Agent Coulson

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is Steph getting back in the ring for Sasha?

Maybe not Steph but someone Steph picks.

Loughc

The White Wolf wrote: »

I imagine Drew will lose because it seems they have the horn for Orton who gave an excellent promo and all, but who the **** wants to see him as champion in 2020?

Terrible to say Drew's reign began and ended with Dolph fcuking Ziggler.

Drew did defend against Lashley and Big Show too, but both matches were completely forgettable as was his Reign will be.

ricero wrote: »

Totally disagree. Sasha and Bayley have been fantastic as a heel duo and have kept the womens division interesting especially with Ronda, Becky and Charlotte all gone. Bayley as a heel is so much better.

Hopefully they keep this up and have a returning Ronda or Becky (perhaps both even as a team) comeback and destroy the pair next Wrestlemania. Long-term storytelling.

Also, Orton vs Drew should be excellent.

Bayley and Sasha are just so boring. Do absolutely nothing for the product or creating new starts. At this stage the 4 horsewomen needs to move aside completely and let others shine or there wont be a division.

Orton and Drew while yes will be a good match and good build it was obvious as hell that's who Drew's Summerslam's opponent would be as they've no other top tier start to go up against.

Look at Drew's previous title defenses....

Big Show - Should have retired YEARS ago... non-relevant
Lashley - King of the Mid-carders...
Ziggy Zig Ziggler - An absolutely embarrassment.. the never will pull the trigger on Ziggy to the point you know he is never a threat to the top guys.

Where is WWE next megastar coming from? Eye poke Rollins? Been there done that. Alistair Black? So stuck in midcard I feel like gouging my own eyes out rather than watch his boring promos and matches.

Sure they bring back Ali last week to job him to the king of the mid-carders this week.

Remember when in wCw when Saturn, Malenko, Eddie and Benoit all felt under-utilized.... oh hello Rick O'Shea, Cedre Alexander and Ali....

It's clear as day 2 things are killing WWE, they've made no new stars.... and the writers have thrown in the towel.

Furious-Red

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Maybe not Steph but someone Steph picks.

J. Marston

I would love the internet meltdown if Charlotte came back and ended another Sasha reign after 1 month.