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Group of men in Dublin cause outrage by wearing blackface

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    It might be offensive to some, but it certainly isn't racist. Your one who wrote the Facebook post would want to take a look at herself.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,525 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    People need to stop reacting to this sort of sh*te with histrionics and "outrage". Ignoring them would be a much better option as it starves these cretins of their oxygen. Alas...

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    There goes my hulk costume for Halloween, don't want to be called a racist for 'greenfacing' :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭duffman3833


    kfallon wrote: »
    There goes my hulk costume for Halloween, don't want to be called a racist for 'greenfacing' :(

    can rule out Mr T or Michael Jackson too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    That touristy kip of a bar has a "neat dress essential", sign on it :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,529 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    Its gas reading the facebook post, you hear people retorting about "incitement to violence", yet the facebook poster wants to smack one of them, talk about a contradiction.....


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    She goes on to say "Not even the fake Jews are this dense."

    Whats that supposed to mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭IR1SH RANG3R


    can rule out Mr T or Michael Jackson too

    Michael Jackson done "whiteface" and nobody called him racist.....although he had bigger problems :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    People who want to be offended will be offended


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Which bar was it btw, can't access FB or Twitter in work!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    But...........why? Was it for a stag or something?

    What does she mean by this?
    Any idiot who uses Irish people as examples of white slavery should drown in the freaking liffey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    kfallon wrote: »
    Which bar was it btw, can't access FB or Twitter in work!

    Fitzgeralds just down from O'Connell Bridge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    You cant look sideways these days with somebody getting pissed off and going to the media!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Me_Grapes


    So let me get this straight re that young wan on facebuke.

    Dressing up like the characters in cool runnings = racist.

    Generalising an entire group of people as dense = A-OK?

    She seems a paragon of virtue in morality all things considered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    But...........why? Was it for a stag or something?

    What does she mean by this?

    Is it because we're the blacks of Europe? They were probably from the northside too...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Maybe it was just undercover members of the Gardai trying to see if any of the local bars would refuse them entry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    I don't know, you can't even act like a racist these days without being called a racist. It's PC gone mad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Umaro


    Its gas the way she calls them out, and then throws in a bit of her own anti-semitism at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    It seems that blackface has only started to be considered racist in the last few years over here at least. Teachers and students used to regularly black-up for dress up days in my secondary school back in the day. I don't know if it's just us becoming a bit more Americanized, I'd imagine blacking up has been considered racist for a long time in America, since entertainment by performers in blackface was actually used to belittle and dehumanize black people.

    I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable going around like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    dav3 wrote: »
    I don't know, you can't even act like a racist these days without being called a racist. It's PC gone mad!

    Sure you can't even steal Stewart Lee's "jokes" these days without being accused of plagiarism.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    But...........why? Was it for a stag or something?

    What does she mean by this?

    Because obviously white (Irish in this case) people have never been sold into slavery and only black people can use this argument.

    Too bad for her it's completely wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    A lot would also depend on their behaviour but they could have done something else to avoid offending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    It might be offensive to some, but it certainly isn't racist. Your one who wrote the Facebook post would want to take a look at herself.

    I can't believe that she has appropriated our north European blonde hair!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    _Brian wrote: »
    A lot would also depend on their behaviour but they could have done something else to avoid offending.

    I just hope they didn't appropriate the age-old Jamaican tradition of push cart racing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Because obviously white (Irish in this case) people have never been sold into slavery and only black people can use this argument.

    Too bad for her it's completely wrong.

    That's what I'm getting from her context unless I have it arseways.

    Either her FB post is laced with satire or she's a special kind of ignorant, also what was the point of the fake Jew remark? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Sanka ya dead?

    Ya mon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    godtabh wrote: »
    People who want to be offended will be offended

    I'm not sure what's worse.

    The blackface thing, the people taking offence to it or the ones seething with anger that people would take offence to it.

    Main theme of the internet these days it seems.

    But ultimately why does anyone give a shit what <snip> says on her damn facebook page? Why is it reported on or worthy of discussion?

    Get a life ffs, or at least stop infecting AH with this nonsense


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭reason vs religion


    It's fairly universally accepted that dressing in black-face trivialises the experience of Blacks, who until relatively recently were treated as sub-human. Perhaps it's not racist, but it's certainly grossly inconsiderate and knowingly provocative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Because obviously white (Irish in this case) people have never been sold into slavery and only black people can use this argument.

    Too bad for her it's completely wrong.

    I think its because they think that slavery only equals American Chattel slavery.
    Its bollocks though because the sort of people that tend to make that argument won't say that the instances we have of slavery in the modern day aren't slavery either.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    I just farted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭Dr Strange


    FortySeven wrote: »
    I just farted.

    I am incensed. :mad:


    In more ways than one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    It's fairly universally accepted that dressing in black-face trivialises the experience of Blacks, who until relatively recently were treated as sub-human. Perhaps it's not racist, but it's certainly grossly inconsiderate and knowingly provocative.

    Universally accepted once the american media decided it was verboten

    Sure ya get english stags wandering around dublin dressed up as leprechauns, people just shake their heads and get on with their day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    FortySeven wrote: »
    I just farted.

    Hope you didn't follow thru :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭stunmer


    It's fairly universally accepted that dressing in black-face trivialises the experience of Blacks

    Not by me it's not.

    This is the bullsh*t we need to stamp out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Dr Strange wrote: »
    I am incensed. :mad:


    In more ways than one.

    Me too! <snip> cultural appropriation of a blonde hairdo is utterly outrageous! How does she seem to think that's ok?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    More bollocks from joe.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    kfallon wrote: »
    Hope you didn't follow thru :(

    How dare you question the veracity of my fart processes? Outrage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,380 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    "OP in After Hours causes outrage by posting joe.ie again"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,744 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    http://www.joe.ie/news/pics-group-of-men-in-dublin-cause-outrage-by-wearing-blackface/553540

    A group of men in Dublin have caused anger and offense by dressing up in 'blackface' costumes while drinking in the city

    why is this an issue if they are dressing up as characters from films. People dress up at Halloween in all types of costumes like Mr T but racist card never used. This world needs to take a chill pill

    By "this world" you really mean a random facebook poster who had her post picked up by joe.ie

    This is so insignificant I am outraged. I am outraged by your outrage at some random womans outrage. We are in an outrage spiral and I dont know what to do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    FortySeven wrote: »
    I just farted.

    Loud or silent but deadly?


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm not sure what's worse.

    The blackface thing, the people taking offence to it or the ones seething with anger that people would take offence to it.

    Main theme of the internet these days it seems.
    And you've gone one step further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Talk about the thread subject or the article but please don't post personal information


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    So who are these fake Jews she is talking about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Bambi wrote: »
    It's fairly universally accepted that dressing in black-face trivialises the experience of Blacks, who until relatively recently were treated as sub-human. Perhaps it's not racist, but it's certainly grossly inconsiderate and knowingly provocative.

    Universally accepted once the american media decided it was verboten

    Sure ya get english stags wandering around dublin dressed up as leprechauns, people just shake their heads and get on with their day

    Aye, those Leprechauns really suffered under the oppressive fist of the white man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    Loud or silent but deadly?

    A thunderclap of concentrated nastiness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    FortySeven wrote: »
    A thunderclap of concentrated nastiness.

    Like this?

    http://i.imgur.com/lTXDR1J.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    If it's a lazy generalisation or stereotype (like original blackface) then I'd have a problem with it.

    But putting on black face paint as part of a costume to look more like a celebrity who happens to be black is not racist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    If it's a lazy generalisation or stereotype (like original blackface) then I'd have a problem with it.

    But putting on black face paint as part of a costume to look more like a celebrity who happens to be black is not racist.

    Yes it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Err black face is an American thing. We don't really have a history of it. Its just a costume here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Err black face is an American thing. We don't really have a history of it. Its just a costume here.
    Err, no. See across the Irish Sea for examples in their media which were heavily consumed here.


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