Starbucks opening in Waterford

ongarboy

I see Starbucks are advertising for staff for a new Waterford outlet. Any ideas where it's opening in the city?

https://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1543208

MRnotlob606

I will personally boycott this decision.It will lead to a proliferation of hipsters in Waterford.

mooseknunkle

It was in a local paper last year that it was opening up in the closed down restaurant next to the entrance to city square dont know if thats still the case though

I remember posting about it in December 2014 actually

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056878580&page=19

Max Powers

mooseknunkle wrote: »

It was in a local paper last year that it was opening up in the closed down restaurant next to the entrance to city square dont know if thats still the case though

I remember posting about it in December 2014 actually

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056878580&page=19

That and others marked for demolition..city square extension.
No hipster or myself for that matter would be seen dead in Starbucks when there are loads of places already to get better coffee.plenty of people around who like posing with their coffee and Apple product though who will be rejoicing.good luck to them.

Jambo

ongarboy wrote: »

I see Starbucks are advertising for staff for a new Waterford outlet. Any ideas where it's opening in the city?

https://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1543208

I heard it will be in the old Toymaster premises on John Roberts Sq.

Max Powers

Jambo wrote: »

I heard it will be in the old Toymaster premises on John Roberts Sq.

Would be good to see it back in use and a nice location for outside cafe.

iseegirls

Although it's always good to see new jobs, I hope it doesn't affect our local coffee shops. Blackfriars and Gallweys are just 2 of many we have in Waterford which are great places for coffee, food & cake. Hopefully we'll keep on supporting these local businesses.

longshanks

I can't see myself passing up The Arch or Portico for my coffee. Although as the above poster said it is good to see new business opening.

edbrez

Should be in the WIT.

mayordenis

Think it's a different market to Arch, Blackfriars and any other place trying to make real coffee.

They'll be doing two things, taking market share from Costa and Insomnia, and probably expanding the coffee market overall because people who don't drink coffee might drink some of their sugary ****e and eventually start drinking coffee.

kayaksurfbum

iseegirls wrote: »

Although it's always good to see new jobs, I hope it doesn't affect our local coffee shops. Blackfriars and Gallweys are just 2 of many we have in Waterford which are great places for coffee, food & cake. Hopefully we'll keep on supporting these local businesses.

Totally agree with that.

Those cafes are using local suppliers so the knock on is much bigger then you think.

Starbucks will just import everything from the UK. As far as i know there is still a boycott of the English market starbucks in Cork. Traders dont want them in the city at all!

km991148

iseegirls wrote: »

Although it's always good to see new jobs, I hope it doesn't affect our local coffee shops. Blackfriars and Gallweys are just 2 of many we have in Waterford which are great places for coffee, food & cake. Hopefully we'll keep on supporting these local businesses.

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

Totally agree with that.

Those cafes are using local suppliers so the knock on is much bigger then you think.

Starbucks will just import everything from the UK. As far as i know there is still a boycott of the English market starbucks in Cork. Traders dont want them in the city at all!

This wont be the first Starbucks, bet you there will be another one or two opening within a short period of time... Once some of the existing business close, Starbucks will go back to one shop. Seems to be the business model up here in Dublin.

edbrez

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

Starbucks will just import everything from the UK.

Will have to get used to soya milk in the lattes.

Sully

There doing a bit of work up by where Elverys used to be (well until recently). An empty unit there. Shame to see Toymaster gone, nothing seems to last in there.

edbrez

Bet they'll be all young non-nationals hired.

longshanks

edbrez wrote: »

Bet they'll be all young non-nationals hired.

What makes you think that?

kayaksurfbum

edbrez wrote: »

Bet they'll be all young non-nationals hired.

So what if they do. What are you getting at?

Digital Society

edbrez wrote: »

Bet they'll be all young non-nationals hired.

Nah they will just hire the people who fit the role best, have a non ****ty entitled attitude and who are likely stay in the role for many years instead of bitching and whinging.

Maybe thats why all the "****ty" jobs that companies couldnt fill during the boom times are now filled by "young non-nationals".

Max Powers

edbrez wrote: »

Bet they'll be all young non-nationals hired.

What a moronic comment.nobody wants to hear that kind of crap here or most places.

D3V!L

edbrez wrote: »

Bet they'll be all young non-nationals hired.

Those poor poor people of no nationality, they need all the help they can get :rolleyes:

somebaldyfela

Jesus boy. Cant open your mouth around here.

dzilla

All the best to them. Great to see another shopfront about to be refreshed and re-opened, same with Weatherspoons. Bringing vibrancy back which will all compliment the shopping center development and city square re-development in years to come.

I obviously hope it won't affect the other one million local coffee shops in town, I personally love Galloways, however Starbucks offer a larger variety of shakes, iced drinks, cold coffees and ultimately choice, which can only be good in my opinion.

Luckycharms_74

edbrez wrote: »

Bet they'll be all young non-nationals hired.

somebaldyfela wrote: »

Jesus boy. Cant open your mouth around here.

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

eeloe

edbrez wrote: »

Bet they'll be all young non-nationals hired.

If they are the only people applying for the job, so what if they are hired?

LETS BE AVN IT

Ill be staying away from it anyways and supporting local shops like blackfriars and portico. Starbucks business model is to close down local coffee shops sadly.

eeloe

You are aware Starbucks in Ireland is a franchise business, so it's not the overlords from head office have picked Waterford to inflict their wrath on??

Someone in Waterford, or possibly a neighbouring county, has decided to invest a LOT of money to open a starbucks franchise to turn a profit over a couple of years. Their drinks are probably going to be a lot more expensive than the local shops too, especially if you're going for the large option on their drinks(i ****ing hate the term "venti")

I personally like starbucks cold drinks, not many coffee shops offer cold options.

edbrez

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

So what if they do. What are you getting at?

Wait 'till they ask your name to write on the paper cup and can't spell it.

Max Powers

edbrez wrote: »

Wait 'till they ask your name to write on the paper cup and can't spell it.

Judging by the intelligence of some of these posts, I'm surprised you can spell.

fricatus

edbrez wrote: »

Wait 'till they ask your name to write on the paper cup and can't spell it.

I feel your pain Krzysztof... I just tell them my name is Tom

Digital Society

LETS BE AVN IT wrote: »

Ill be staying away from it anyways and supporting local shops like blackfriars and portico. Starbucks business model is to close down local coffee shops sadly.

Why is a local person using a franchise any different to a local person using their own name?

This kind of attitude isnt a million miles off this other clown who thinks all the "non-nationals" steal the jobs. People whinge about town being crap for shops then wont shop in the new shops unless they are opened by a blonde haired blue eyed Waterford person.

Do you take this attitude with every shop or just the new ones? Ever shop in Argos, Debenhams, Penneys or any of them other shops that arent from Ireland?

longshanks

Digital Society wrote: »

Why is a local person using a franchise any different to a local person using their own name?

This kind of attitude isnt a million miles off this other clown who thinks all the "non-nationals" steal the jobs. People whinge about town being crap for shops then wont shop in the new shops unless they are opened by a blonde haired blue eyed Waterford person.

Do you take this attitude with every shop or just the new ones? Ever shop in Argos, Debenhams, Penneys or any of them other shops that arent from Ireland?

I'm not against new business opening, I welcome it but I'll stick with The Arch and Portico for my coffee because that is where I've been buying it all along. I like Badger & Dodo and 3fe coffees and that's where it is sold.
As for the nationality of who serves me I couldn't care less, Portico is staffed by Americans so your served by locals argument is pointless.
Also I've been in Starbucks and its a bit of a headwrecker, gimmicks like writing names on the cup, about 5 people behind the counter to pour your coffee. One takes your order, passes the info to the cup writer, who passes your info to the person who pours, who passes the info and cup to the person who takes the cup to the counter, then the caller calls you... 15 mins later you get called. Ridiculous.

LETS BE AVN IT

Digital Society wrote: »

Why is a local person using a franchise any different to a local person using their own name?

This kind of attitude isnt a million miles off this other clown who thinks all the "non-nationals" steal the jobs. People whinge about town being crap for shops then wont shop in the new shops unless they are opened by a blonde haired blue eyed Waterford person.

Do you take this attitude with every shop or just the new ones? Ever shop in Argos, Debenhams, Penneys or any of them other shops that arent from Ireland?

Yes my attitude of wanting to shop at a locally owned coffee shop that buys from Irish suppliers rather than a massive corporate brand is not a million miles from being a racist :cool: .

Paully D

edbrez wrote: »

Wait 'till they ask your name to write on the paper cup and can't spell it.

That's a marketing ploy from Starbucks. They do it purposely so people will upload pictures of their cups on social media talking about the "wrong" name being put on the cup, with the shiny Starbucks logo in full view.

edbrez

Another marketing ploy is there won't be one local person working there.

Max Powers

edbrez wrote: »

Another marketing ploy is there won't be one local person working there.

Not only does that make zero sense, its basically a repeat of a previous pig ignorant post of yours.

edbrez

What's ignorant about pointing out this fact? They'd shouldn't be allowed open in Waterford unless they promise to hire a % of people from the town.

mickmackmcgoo

edbrez wrote:

What's ignorant about pointing out this fact? They'd shouldn't be allowed open in Waterford unless they promise to hire a % of people from the town.

If you were opening a business In any town or city you would hire people who live locally for many reasons . Flexibility or if you had extra hours to give at short notice you would want people living fairly near. Why do you think the Starbucks franchise holder won't employ people who live local ?

Max Powers

edbrez wrote: »

What's ignorant about pointing out this fact? They'd shouldn't be allowed open in Waterford unless they promise to hire a % of people from the town.

There is no facts in what you post , just the ignorance and dog whistle talk that closet racists use.

kayaksurfbum

edbrez wrote: »

Another marketing ploy is there won't be one local person working there.

Failed the interview eh???

TrustedApple

Reading the thread shows me another thing waterford is being so negative about. There getting a Starbucks that means there is about 10 new jobs for the city. While it might not be much but its still 10 jobs at the end of the day.

Then I see the post about having to hire local people e.g. as a % for the place ?. Coming from a mixed background and growing up in the hospitality industry i know that its next to imposable to get locals to work the hours as there very anti social and you end up working with people from all over the world and i love that as you find out about the world from people.

All i can say is that i am wishing Starbucks good luck in waterford they need it with so many negative people around

dzilla

I have always been served by a local person in Starbucks Kilkenny.

Max Powers

TrustedApple wrote: »

Reading the thread shows me another thing waterford is being so negative about. There getting a Starbucks that means there is about 10 new jobs for the city. While it might nU?uot be much but its still 10 jobs at the end of the day.

Then I see the post about having to hire local people e.g. as a % for the place ?. Coming from a mixed background and growing up in the hospitality industry i know that its next to imposable to get locals to work the hours as there very anti social and you end up working with people from all over the world and i love that as you find out about the world from people.

All i can say is that i am wishing Starbucks good luck in waterford they need it with so many negative people around

Ease up there Apple, we all welcomed the jobs and just one moron made idiotic comments.

ongarboy

Officially confirmed for the former Toymaster unit in John Roberts Square.

http://www.wlrfm.com/news/local/71879-starbucks-to-open-in-waterford.html

Aquos76

ongarboy wrote: »

Officially confirmed for the former Toymaster unit in John Roberts Square.

http://www.wlrfm.com/news/local/71879-starbucks-to-open-in-waterford.html

Wlr just lifted that from the Waterford News & Star's piece.

Fox Uniform

The last time I was in that building it was Compustore, it's a nice building - hope Starbucks will operate on all 3 floors. All the apple users can have a floor to themselves.

km991148

eeloe wrote: »

You are aware Starbucks in Ireland is a franchise business

I dont think this is true - I have found no evidence on line of it bring a franchise including no obvious way to apply for it.

A quick search shows evidence to the contrary - i.e. its all company owned.

Maybe Starbucks Ireland is run as a whole as a franchise - but in that case I would expect the same business practices to be applied (i.e. close down local businesses).

It appears to be going that way in Dublin at least.

robtri

All Starbucks in Ireland are company owned.


they will use local people in their stores

they will generally use in country vendors for construction

they will generally use in country delivery companies

when they get enough stores and it makes financial sense they will use irish vendors for print and condiment products...

they will pay taxes and contribute to the local system

yes some of the profits will go back to HQ..

km991148

robtri wrote: »

All Starbucks in Ireland are company owned.


they will use local people in their stores

they will generally use in country vendors for construction

they will generally use in country delivery companies

when they get enough stores and it makes financial sense they will use irish vendors for print and condiment products...

they will pay taxes and contribute to the local system

yes some of the profits will go back to HQ..

While in the short term this may be good (more local employment and other benefits you mention) long term the business model is not so good for the local economy. Sttarbucks willover saturate an area with the goal of closing as many existing competitors as possible. They will then reduce the number of their own stores leaving 1 or 2 starbucks only and a bunch of closed businesses. The net effect on the local economy is less choice for consumers and no change to employment etc.


Local to where I live similar happened with Tesco and Super Value. ! small super value and 3 small Tescos opened.. hailed as good for jobs etc. But pretty soon after 2 independent corner shops, 1 mace and a spar all closed.

Now maybe it could be the small businesses were close to the wall anyway and long term there is some job security working for testo/starbucks.. but what happens when the big companies with the big accountants stop even paying taxes to Ireland?

robtri

but what happens when the big companies with the big accountants stop even paying taxes to Ireland?

exact same when small shops stop paying taxes and rates... (which is generally more common)

as to their business model of closing down all local stores, lets be honest its not them closing stores, it is because locals start to use Starbucks and stop using local places. If people in waterford are interested in supporting local they can and can keep them afloat, this is not Starbucks doing this is locals not supporting locals

km991148

robtri wrote: »

this is not Starbucks doing this is locals not supporting locals

ye fair point.. don't get me wrong - if I was Mr Starbucks Id be doing the same... and possibly more with a name like Mr Starbucks..

VincePP

km991148 wrote: »

I dont think this is true - I have found no evidence on line of it bring a franchise including no obvious way to apply for it.

robtri wrote: »

All Starbucks in Ireland are company owned.


they will use local people in their stores

they will generally use in country vendors for construction

they will generally use in country delivery companies

Starbucks sold the Irish operation in 2012 to Ciaran & Colm Butler - they also own all the leisureplex complexes and involved with TGI Fridays.

Like any business, they will employ the best people for the positions. I would guess most will be local Waterford people, but some may come from Kilkenny side. You may even find the odd wexford person there from New Ross.