UFC 199

Depp

mailburner wrote: »

It's funny how few actually mention this but you are right (haven't read all of thread either though)
The fact that dan is a legend and a hero to many makes it ok it seems
If it were a less known fighter folks would be calling for a ban surely?
I will say at the time I was delighted to see lombard put to sleep and would be no matter who he faced tbh and herb should have got in there a little quicker too imo

dunno what it is with hendo, he just seems to get no flac for any of the sh!tty things he does, how the whole trt thing goes unmentioned is crazy

Devastator

mailburner wrote: »

It's funny how few actually mention this but you are right (haven't read all of thread either though)
The fact that dan is a legend and a hero to many makes it ok it seems
If it were a less known fighter folks would be calling for a ban surely?
I will say at the time I was delighted to see lombard put to sleep and would be no matter who he faced tbh and herb should have got in there a little quicker too imo

Depp wrote: »

dunno what it is with hendo, he just seems to get no flac for any of the sh!tty things he does, how the whole trt thing goes unmentioned is crazy

It was part of my bet so I'm glad he made sure of the ko :eek::D

jcd5971

mailburner wrote:

The fact that dan is a legend and a hero to many makes it ok it seems

I hate Dan Henderson he is a scumbag.

I even hate him more for being a hypocrite, bitching about machida when he failed a test, but happy to abuse the living **** out of TRT.

Himself and vitor running around looking like beepob and rocksteady.

Gamebred

https://twitter.com/bisping/status/740960564164206592



Bisping absolutely lapping this up ha

dave1982

Rumours bisping offered hendo a title shot

Depp

dave1982 wrote: »

Rumours bisping offered hendo a title shot

dont blame him wanting that one back, he probably feels aggreived with the h bomb and hendo being a drug cheat and all!

jcd5971

Depp wrote:

dont blame him wanting that one back, he probably feels aggreived with the h bomb and hendo being a drug cheat and all!

I'd pay the ppv price alone for that fight.

I hate Hendo..

martyos121

Depp wrote: »

dont blame him wanting that one back, he probably feels aggreived with the h bomb and hendo being a drug cheat and all!

Would be a joke if Hendo got that fight though, so many ahead of him in his division. Bisping vs Weidman up first in NYC, Rockhold vs Jacare in a title eliminator on the same card, and the winners of each face each other sometime next year. That's how I'd like to see it play out.

jcd5971

martyos121 wrote:

Would be a joke if Hendo got that fight though, so many ahead of him in his division. Bisping vs Weidman up first in NYC, Rockhold vs Jacare in a title eliminator on the same card, and the winners of each face each other sometime next year. That's how I'd like to see it play out.

If right is rightiys jacare vs bisping
And Rockhold v Weidman in New York as an eliminator for title shot.

martyos121

jcd5971 wrote: »

If right is rightiys jacare vs bisping
And Rockhold v Weidman in New York as an eliminator for title shot.

Jacare isn't a big enough draw to main event MSG and he does feck all to promote his fights, he's too friendly to talk shîte. Yes he deserves the next shot, but Dana and the boys don't really give a crap tbh, the Weidman fight is a moneymaker, Jacare isn't. Based on that alone, it's easy to tell which option they'll go for.

jcd5971

martyos121 wrote:

Jacare isn't a big enough draw to main event MSG and he does feck all to promote his fights, he's too friendly to talk shîte. Yes he deserves the next shot, but Dana and the boys don't really give a crap tbh, the Weidman fight is a moneymaker, Jacare isn't. Based on that alone, it's easy to tell which option they'll go for.

My fault not clear I'd put bisping v Jacare on a separate ppv 202? Or something like that. It would need a good card to sell. Could be a good fox title card like rda cowboy was.

I don't think new York needs another big fight if it gets Rockhold v weidman

Depp

jcd5971 wrote: »

My fault not clear I'd put bisping v Jacare on a separate ppv 202? Or something like that. It would need a good card to sell. Could be a good fox title card like rda cowboy was.

I don't think new York needs another big fight if it gets Rockhold v weidman

I'll be very surprised if Jacare gets the fight, yeah he deserves it but weidman or rockhold are the money fights. if i was bisping id push for the hendo fight, earn back that loss, make a shedload of cash then bow out at the top!

Easy Rod

mailburner wrote: »

It's funny how few actually mention this but you are right (haven't read all of thread either though)
The fact that dan is a legend and a hero to many makes it ok it seems
If it were a less known fighter folks would be calling for a ban surely?
I will say at the time I was delighted to see lombard put to sleep and would be no matter who he faced tbh and herb should have got in there a little quicker too imo

You're talking about years and years of instinct taking hold. In that split second you can't tell if a fighter is out cold And have to go for the win. It's on the ref to jump in as you mention. I don't think it's scummy, looks excessive but he wouldn't have survived this long as a fighter if he held back.

jcd5971

Easy Rod wrote: »

You're talking about years and years of instinct taking hold. In that split second you can't tell if a fighter is out cold And have to go for the win. It's on the ref to jump in as you mention. I don't think it's scummy, looks excessive but he wouldn't have survived this long as a fighter if he held back.

no i`d excuse in ring stuff, a fight is a fight and as long as your not pulling a palahares on it fair enough, that's what refs are for, if anderson silva had done the same against bisping who knows where we'd be this week.

I think hendo is a scumbag for going mental on trt using every loophole he could find. his argument he could not fight without it has been proven blatantly false.

That`s all bad but then to come out and slate machida for taking an accidental supplement, what a fooking hypocrite.

I hate him ( it's irrational i know sorry)

Gamebred

TRT is only extra testosterone that your body produces anyways he wasnt taking epo or anything like that,sure its illegal but he was hardly like some of them on all sorts of stuff roided to the gills like a body builder.

Mellor

Gamebred wrote: »

TRT is only extra testosterone that your body produces anyways he wasnt taking epo or anything like that,sure its illegal but he was hardly like some of them on all sorts of stuff roided to the gills like a body builder.

Not sure if you are trolling or being stupid

Gamebred

Mellor wrote: »

Not sure if you are trolling or being stupid

Might of needed it for issues with family planning or thinning skin.

mailburner

Easy Rod wrote: »

You're talking about years and years of instinct taking hold. In that split second you can't tell if a fighter is out cold And have to go for the win. It's on the ref to jump in as you mention. I don't think it's scummy, looks excessive but he wouldn't have survived this long as a fighter if he held back.

that second elbow left a bad taste tbh and he certainly knew bisbing
was out
I blame dean as much this time though, he should have got in before that second elbow landed

Mellor

Gamebred wrote: »

Might of needed it for issues with family planning or thinning skin.

Maybe, but I wasn't actually referring to whether of not Hendo's TRT was justified. It's a can or worms,

I was talking about this part;

TRT is only extra testosterone that your body produces anyways he wasnt taking epo or anything like that

Saying it's only testosterone is silly. Test is the most fundamental anabolic steroid hormone. EPO isn't a steroid.

The "juiced to the gills" bodybuilders you mentioned (mostly) base their cycles around testosterone. All the other stuff they take with it is either modified testosterone or there to prevent the negative effects and help them start their natural production afterwards.

Depp

Gamebred wrote: »

TRT is only extra testosterone that your body produces anyways he wasnt taking epo or anything like that,sure its illegal but he was hardly like some of them on all sorts of stuff roided to the gills like a body builder.

Left=Trt, Right=No Trt
First off the changes in Physique are obvious, on trt you're stronger, faster and you've more energy than without, ergo it is a dangerous performance enhancing drug especially in fighting and if you use it you are a drug cheat.

jcd5971

Gamebred wrote: »

TRT is only extra testosterone that your body produces anyways he wasnt taking epo or anything like that,sure its illegal but he was hardly like some of them on all sorts of stuff roided to the gills like a body builder.

seriously vitor.jpeg thats trt abuse and hendo was just as bad.

H8GHOTI

Depp wrote: »

Right=Trt, Left=No Trt
First off the changes in Physique are obvious, on trt you're stronger, faster and you've more energy than without, ergo it is a dangerous performance enhancing drug especially in fighting and if you use it you are a drug cheat.

Main difference there is his hair. Is that a side effect?

Lukker-

H8GHOTI wrote: »

Main difference there is his hair. Is that a side effect?

Yes, it can cause baldness

newbbieb

Depp wrote: »

Right=Trt, Left=No Trt
First off the changes in Physique are obvious, on trt you're stronger, faster and you've more energy than without, ergo it is a dangerous performance enhancing drug especially in fighting and if you use it you are a drug cheat.

The one on the left is the trt one.

Depp

Depp wrote: »

Right=Trt, Left=No Trt
First off the changes in Physique are obvious, on trt you're stronger, faster and you've more energy than without, ergo it is a dangerous performance enhancing drug especially in fighting and if you use it you are a drug cheat.

Class management to get those sponsors but you've got to feel for Jesus. He's lost out on a lot of promotion since the Reebok deal came in.

TherapyBoy

Deleted User wrote: »

Class management to get those sponsors but you've got to feel for Jesus. He's lost out on a lot of promotion since the Reebok deal came in.

He's doing ok, I heard a rumour he doesn't even pay the fighters any sponsorship money.

John_D80

TherapyBoy wrote: »

He's doing ok, I heard a rumour he doesn't even pay the fighters any sponsorship money.

Salvation of the soul is its own reward. Bless your ignorance my child.

Depp

newbbieb wrote: »

The one on the left is the trt one.

bollocks I always mix them up! :mad:

Just saw Henderson got paid 800k for his fight at 199. I was saying he needs to retire but getting paid that kind of money I dont think he will retire just yet.