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    #92
    IncognitoMan
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    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    Think Bale won. I don't see what's shocking about Rudd getting a few votes though tbh. He's a fantastic actor, easily on par with Bale, though arguably better. Bale was a great Batman but Rudd was a great Ant-Man.

    I like AntMan. Paul Rudd was grand. He played Paul Rudd doing a superhero film. Bale was much better though.


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    #93
    Nervous Wreck
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    IncognitoMan wrote: »
    I like AntMan. Paul Rudd was grand. He played Paul Rudd doing a superhero film. Bale was much better though.

    In fairness, it could be argued that Bale did little more than "play Bale doing a superhero film", his film just happened to be more serious in tone. I like Bale but none of the Dark Knight movies showcased his best work at all. Again, I think he was a great Batman but there's not much that points to him putting in a better performance than Rudd.


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    #94
    Also Starring LeVar Burton
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    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    In fairness, it could be argued that Bale did little more than "play Bale doing a superhero film", his film just happened to be more serious in tone. I like Bale but none of the Dark Knight movies showcased his best work at all. Again, I think he was a great Batman but there's not much that points to him putting in a better performance than Rudd.

    I second this - Bale wasn't the standout performance in the Dark Knight Trilogy, he did a good job, but a strong supporting cast, and great writer and director were the real heroes.


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    #95
    Penn
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    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    In fairness, it could be argued that Bale did little more than "play Bale doing a superhero film", his film just happened to be more serious in tone. I like Bale but none of the Dark Knight movies showcased his best work at all. Again, I think he was a great Batman but there's not much that points to him putting in a better performance than Rudd.

    I think Bale was a great Batman in fantastic Batman films. That being said, there are enough elements of his performance where I think it's fair enough for him to get knocked out at this stage. His Bat-voice and his overacting with his mouth (seriously, watch how his mouth moves while speaking as Batman. That's not just doing the voice, he's emoting with his mouth) can be quite grating.

    For me, Affleck was a better Batman in a much worse film than Bale was with the best films.

    Rudd was just fantastic. He wasn't given anything particularly special to work with, but in both Ant-Man and Civil War he really did a great job and fit well into a role that not many people expected much from.


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    #96
    Agent Coulson
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    Bale was good in Batman Begins after that I didn't enjoy his performances as Batman or Bruce Wayne to be honest.


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    #97
    Nervous Wreck
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    Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »
    I second this - Bale wasn't the standout performance in the Dark Knight Trilogy, he did a good job, but a strong supporting cast, and great writer and director were the real heroes.

    This us true. It's a cliché to say Ledger was the standout but it's also extremely true.
    Penn wrote: »
    I think Bale was a great Batman in fantastic Batman films. That being said, there are enough elements of his performance where I think it's fair enough for him to get knocked out at this stage. His Bat-voice and his overacting with his mouth (seriously, watch how his mouth moves while speaking as Batman. That's not just doing the voice, he's emoting with his mouth) can be quite grating.

    For me, Affleck was a better Batman in a much worse film than Bale was with the best films.

    Rudd was just fantastic. He wasn't given anything particularly special to work with, but in both Ant-Man and Civil War he really did a great job and fit well into a role that not many people expected much from.

    All of this!
    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Bale was good in Batman Begins after that I didn't enjoy his performances as Batman or Bruce Wayne to be honest.

    I was never sold on Bale's Bruce Wayne; I think he was much better as Batman than as BW.


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    #98
    Ben Gadot
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    I thought Bale was excellent in Begins, as he really nailed the duality of Bruce as well as presenting a vulnerable yet unwavering spirit. TDK relied on the ensemble of performances to sell the story so it's natural that Bale was less prominent in the middle instalment. When the trilogy closed and put Bale front and centre he gave a wonderful performance again.

    I just love that trilogy and Bale was a big part of that so I would have voted for Bale.

    Rudd is a great actor and he was one of the actors that stole the show in CW, but for me personally his resume of performances just isn't quite on a par with Bale's.


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    #99
    Nervous Wreck
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    Very possible the final could just be Civil War!


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    #100
    Brief_Lives
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    Nah.. Reynolds + someone else.. RDJ probably...


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    #101
    Ben Gadot
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    Just realised first to 3 so I take it RDJ won there?

    First to 3 seems a bit tight, especially in the latter stages. I understand the reasoning as forum might not have that traffic, just perhaps something to consider for future games. :)

    /back to serious business. :pac:

    EDIT ah christ nevermind, just saw first to 5. :o


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    #102
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    What a tie!

    'It is better to walk alone in the right direction than follow the herd walking in the wrong direction.'



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    #103
    brianregan09
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    Mental that a Voice actor has won it


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    #104
    Alfred Borden
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    brianregan09 wrote: »
    Mental that a Voice actor has won it

    ??
    Its 9-7 to Reynolds and it doesnt end until 11 tonight.


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    #105
    Ben Gadot
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    brianregan09 wrote: »
    Mental that a Voice actor has won it

    I used to think the same way but you have to respect the longevity of both Conroy and Hamill in their roles.

    It's almost unprecedented to see two actors not only critically acclaimed in their roles but also two actors that the fanbase still crave for after all this time.

    Isn't that what the tournament is about? It shouldn't matter that Conroy is a voice actor, the guy is without peer more and less.


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    #106
    IncognitoMan
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    brianregan09 wrote: »
    Mental that a Voice actor has won it

    Although I do massively respect the effort Reynolds had to go to get Deadpool made. Is it not more mental that someone with 1 good and 2 bad (I think he's only been in 2 more?) superhero films wins?

    Conroy has been at the top of his game for 2 decades now across TV shows, movies and video games. Just the catalog of stuff he's done as batman and most of it at least to my knowledge is good to great. The more I think about it the more I think he is by far the most deserving winner.


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    #107
    Agent Coulson
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    Conroy and Hamill are hands down the best Batman and Joker across all animation, tv or film and deserve more credit and public acknowledgement and appreciation for their work.


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    #108
    brianregan09
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    I wasn't saying mental in a bad way at all ...Far from it Hamill and Conroy are amazing


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    #109
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    I know I said I'd start the next tournament tonight but I think the weather's too nice for it at the moment, so I'll kick it off on Friday evening instead. :)

    'It is better to walk alone in the right direction than follow the herd walking in the wrong direction.'



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    #110
    Also Starring LeVar Burton
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    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    I know I said I'd start the next tournament tonight but I think the weather's too nice for it at the moment, so I'll kick it off on Friday evening instead. :)

    I think you mean too bloody hot to be making any decisions or doing anything... Spent a good hour today in the freezer section of Dunnes Stores just to cool down a bit... ;)


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    #111
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    I'll start it tomorrow evening. Weather's meant to be disappointing. ;)

    'It is better to walk alone in the right direction than follow the herd walking in the wrong direction.'



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    #112
    Ben Gadot
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    This is facking unacceptable!! :pac:

    Anyone want to share their personal favourites? Grant Gustin, Krysten Ritter and a couple of the lads from the Daredevil show would be my picks.

    Gotham picked up in its 2nd season so I wouldn't mind seeing Robin Taylor, Camren Bicondova and Cory Michael Smith doing well.


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    #113
    brianregan09
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    Loved Beranthal's punisher a strong favourite in this competition


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    #114
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    We are go for launch. I won't give any names away but I've tried to get a nice balance of old-school, nostalgia favourites plus the modern names.

    I also included a fair few voice actors who you probably won't recognise on their names alone, but who I felt, like Kevin Conroy, merited inclusion for their work in the animated shows.

    'It is better to walk alone in the right direction than follow the herd walking in the wrong direction.'



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    #115
    Also Starring LeVar Burton
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    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    We are go for launch. I won't give any names away but I've tried to get a nice balance of old-school, nostalgia favourites plus the modern names.

    I also included a fair few voice actors who you probably won't recognise on their names alone, but who I felt, like Kevin Conroy, merited inclusion for their work in the animated shows.

    I'll be interested to see if Rob Paulsen makes an appearance as one of the voice actors - don't tell me if he does or not, it'll be a nice surprise if he is in there, but I'm also not necessarily expecting him to be.


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    #116
    Ben Gadot
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    As someone who kept faith with Gotham for Season 2, very frustrating to see Ben McKenzie beat there.


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    #117
    Also Starring LeVar Burton
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    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    As someone who kept faith with Gotham for Season 2, very frustrating to see Ben McKenzie beat there.

    I've given Gotham a fair chance, thought it had improved a lot early on in Season 2, and just couldn't stick it any longer towards the end of Season 2, it was just all over the place. Even though I liked a lot of the actors in Gotham, Ben McKensie isn't one of the stronger players in the cast (you wouldn't really miss him if he was written out, which isn't a great thing to be able to say about a show's main star), whereas Agents of SHIELD is amazing and the cast all compliment each other very well, and Chloe Bennet has been fantastic throughout...


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    #118
    TheKells
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    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    As someone who kept faith with Gotham for Season 2, very frustrating to see Ben McKenzie beat there.

    I gave up after about 5-6 episodes, is it worth giving it another chance? I really disliked the penguin actor.


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    #119
    Ben Gadot
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    TheKells wrote: »
    I gave up after about 5-6 episodes, is it worth giving it another chance? I really disliked the penguin actor.

    For me Robin Taylor, who plays Penguin, became one of the strongest things about the show.

    I can understand why you didn't like him in the first few episodes anyway as I wasn't a fan myself. Season 1 really was poor in so many ways but I feel things were rectified significantly on season 2.


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    #120
    Agent Coulson
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    The Penguin & Riddler are the only thing keeping me interested in the show.


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    #121
    PerrinV2
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    Just cause he's in a battle now,lol.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_tLWMm0Fo


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