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It's The Queens Birthday Day.

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    #182
    rafatoni
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭rafatoni


    Helen mirren is 90? Wow fair play. Looks great.


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    #183
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    I found it strange that an ardent libertarian would be pro-monarchy...then realised that libertarianism is basically modern day feudalism where property rights are "king".

    Monarchy was a natural outcome arising from families sucessfully accumulating enough land and power (through carefully selected marriages, inbreeding and the odd war) until they could declare themselves as self-styled rulers.

    Wouldn't pay much attention to the "Official Engagements" figure quoted. She's the queen so pretty much any "activity" is counted as an "official engagement", whether that's a 5 minute meet and greet at a school or taking a dump.

    Anyway don't agree with the monarchy (in the UK or elsewhere) but not going to wish her ill-will either. So happy (belated) birthday wishes to her, I'm sure she'll be chuffed.


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    #184
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,717 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    What a remarkable lady....I don't know she keeps going. I'm 60 years younger than her and I'd find her schedule grueling.

    She seems like a very intelligent and kind woman. And doesn't she look fresh for her age?

    I'll never understand the vitriolic hatred some Irish people have the Royals....as I have said numerous times the occupation ended a long time ago, Britain is not our enemy any more. People really need to let the past go and move into the 21st century.

    You know one of those royals is head of the regiment still under investigation for massacring 14 Irish people not as long ago as you might want to think.


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    #185
    line console zero
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭line console zero


    riffmongous wrote: »
    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    What a remarkable lady....I don't know she keeps going. I'm 60 years younger than her and I'd find her schedule grueling.

    She seems like a very intelligent and kind woman. And doesn't she look fresh for her age?

    I'll never understand the vitriolic hatred some Irish people have the Royals....as I have said numerous times the occupation ended a long time ago, Britain is not our enemy any more. People really need to let the past go and move into the 21st century.

    You know one of those royals is head of the regiment still under investigation for massacring 14 Irish people not as long ago as you might want to think.

    Well as Mornarchy they are technically head of everything. I doubt they were giving orders to fire on innocents.

    Where does the blame game end? And where has it gotten us?


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    #186
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    What a remarkable lady....I don't know she keeps going. I'm 60 years younger than her and I'd find her schedule grueling.

    She seems like a very intelligent and kind woman. And doesn't she look fresh for her age?

    I'll never understand the vitriolic hatred some Irish people have the Royals....as I have said numerous times the occupation ended a long time ago, Britain is not our enemy any more. People really need to let the past go and move into the 21st century.

    Hmm, tad ironic?


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    #187
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    I found it strange that an ardent libertarian would be pro-monarchy...then realised that libertarianism is basically modern day feudalism where property rights are "king".

    There are none as quick to bend the knee to a figure of authority than an ardent libertarian. The most sycophantic of all ideologies.


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    #188
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    karma_ wrote: »
    There are none as quick to bend the knee to a figure of authority than an ardent libertarian. The most sycophantic of all ideologies.

    They're all for feudalism until the peasants get their hands on a crossbow.


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    #189
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,158 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    riffmongous wrote:
    You know one of those royals is head of the regiment still under investigation for massacring 14 Irish people not as long ago as you might want to think.

    I think you should be sure to hold on to that grudge. Don't let it go, no matter how ridiculous it makes you.


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    #190
    cowboyBuilder
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    Happy Birthday your majesty.

    Now where is my monocle ?


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    #191
    FA Hayek
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭FA Hayek


    Irish people should be very careful where they throw stones, especially butt hurt ones that seem to hate most things British. Have to laugh at those living in the UK and giving out about the Queen. Oh the irony.

    Ireland came very close in the last presidential election in electing a Fianna Fail bagman. 3rd was a former Terrorist who supported an organisation in killing women and children!!


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    #192
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    FA Hayek wrote: »
    Irish people should be very careful where they throw stones, especially butt hurt ones that seem to hate most things British. Have to laugh at those living in the UK and giving out about the Queen. Oh the irony.

    In all seriousness... how the f**k is that ironic?


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    #193
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    karma_ wrote: »
    There are none as quick to bend the knee to a figure of authority than an ardent libertarian. The most sycophantic of all ideologies.

    The most inconsistent of all the ideologies apparently.


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    #194
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Re: her abducation.. "She'll still be queen going down in the box"


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    #195
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Re: her abducation.. "She'll still be queen going down in the box"

    It would make bringing her out for those ceremonies they indulge in rather difficult though.


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    #196
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,717 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    I think you should be sure to hold on to that grudge. Don't let it go, no matter how ridiculous it makes you.
    Yeah godforbid murderers should be brought to justice :rolleyes:


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    #197
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Yeah godforbid murderers should be brought to justice :rolleyes:

    They'll be brought to justice when Gerry is, I wouldn't hold my breath..

    Give up on justice for Northern Ireland. The best one person can do is help keep murderers out of office.


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    #198
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    They'll be brought to justice when Gerry is, I wouldn't hold my breath..

    Give up on justice for Northern Ireland. The best one person can do is help keep murderers out of office.

    ....unless they're British or thus affiliated, in which case "Don't hold a grudge".


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    #199
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Lurkio wrote: »
    ....unless they're British or thus affiliated, in which case "Don't hold a grudge".

    Unlike SF the BA isn't running for elected office.


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    #200
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    They'll be brought to justice when Gerry is, I wouldn't hold my breath..

    Give up on justice for Northern Ireland. The best one person can do is help keep murderers out of office.

    gerry hasn't done anything wrong, so there is nothing to bring him to justice for. sf will be in government one day, you need to start preparing for that fact.
    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Unlike SF the BA isn't running for elected office.

    no the BA just impose their will on the countries they invade instead.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #201
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    end of the road wrote: »
    gerry hasn't done anything wrong, so there is nothing to bring him to justice for. sf will be in government one day, you need to start preparing for that fact.

    no the BA just impose their will on the countries they invade instead.
    lol


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    #202
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Unlike SF the BA isn't running for elected office.

    But if it was, you wouldn't have a problem with it. Your posting history is not unfamiliar to me.


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    #203
    degsie
    Registered Users Posts: 8,746 ✭✭✭degsie


    Just heard the prince died, bummer on your b'day :(


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    #204
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Lurkio wrote: »
    But if it was, you wouldn't have a problem with it. Your posting history is not unfamiliar to me.

    Don't tell me what I would or wouldn't be opposed to thanks.

    Your posting history is also familier to me.


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    #205
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Don't tell me what I would or wouldn't be opposed to thanks.

    Your posting history is also familier to me.

    I'm sure it is.


    The fact is that I have never seen you attack British militarism, have frequently seen you lionise loyalism and unionism, and pour acrid bile on all things nationalist and republican on an all too regular basis. Now there is always a possibility that sense will arrive and that the tune will change, but there is no evidence on which to base such hope.


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    #206
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Lurkio wrote: »
    I'm sure it is.


    The fact is that I have never seen you attack British militarism, have frequently seen you lionise loyalism and unionism, and pour acrid bile on all things nationalist and republican on an all too regular basis. Now there is always a possibility that sense will arrive and that the tune will change, but there is no evidence on which to base such hope.

    I've repeatedly condemned loyalist terrorists even while other posters refuse to condemn republican terrorists. If you haven't seen it you clearly haven't been paying enough attention.

    But don't let a little thing like ignorance stop you telling me what my opinions would be in any hypothetical scenario. You're clearly more qualified for that than I am.


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    #207
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I've repeatedly condemned loyalist terrorists even while other posters refuse to condemn republican terrorists. If you haven't seen it you clearly haven't been paying enough attention.

    But don't let a little thing like ignorance stop you telling me what my opinions would be in any hypothetical scenario. You're clearly more qualified for that than I am.

    Evidently, as you're using a thread about the queens birthday to slag off republicans.

    Speaking of the topic, what is your opinion of the British monarchy in the 21st century?


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    #208
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Lurkio wrote: »
    Evidently, as you're using a thread about the queens birthday to slag off republicans.

    Speaking of the topic, what is your opinion of the British monarchy in the 21st century?

    My opinion is that it generates more revenue than it costs.


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    #209
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    My opinion is that it generates more revenue than it costs.

    How would you know?


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    #210
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    My opinion is that it generates more revenue than it costs.

    Fascinating. Do you have some source of figures I might look at?


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    #211
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,391 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Lurkio wrote: »
    Fascinating. Do you have some source of figures I might look at?

    He / appears to be correct in fact. It's impossible to put a precise figure on how much income the Royal family generate but it appears to outstrip the money spent on them :

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/is-the-british-royal-family-worth-the-money/278052/


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