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It's The Queens Birthday Day.

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    #92
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Yeah, crucially however the president is not earmarked from birth to a position of privilege.

    Which saves even more money on electing people to ceremonial positions.


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    #93
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Which saves even more money on electing people to ceremonial positions.

    Ceremonial? *scoff* Reading some of the posts here they do a damn hard job of work!


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    #94
    Yamanoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »
    Who exactly is "The Queen" there are numrous Queens around the world so can thread titles please be more specific in future.

    This old chestnut's such a ridiculous argument.

    Forget the Queen for a second - if someone mentions Prince Philip, 99% of people in Ireland will assume it's the doddery & mildly racist old Greek being discussed, not the baldy Monaco playboy. This is simply because, like it or not, the British royal family continue to inhabit our cultural consciousness to a far greater degree than Swedish, Dutch or Spanish monarchs.

    The 'Which Queen' guff is just symptomatic of a particular type of republican mindset, that trawls around salivating at any opportunity to take offense.


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    #95
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    Ever wonder how much it costs to keep the Royals safe?

    Well... no one knows because it's never been published.


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    #96
    xabi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭xabi


    xabi wrote: »
    Thats crying out for a cock&balls to be drawn on it.
    La_Gordy wrote: »
    Tellin' me.

    Do it!


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    #97
    wokingvoter
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    Edward Hopper wrote: »
    "Work" for Royals is going to grand dinners and having expensive holidays, getting waited on 24 hours a day. Not hard to see how they tend to live to a ripe old age.

    An English Republic can't come soon enough (the realist in me knows it'll probably never come).

    Can't come soon enough for who?


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    #98
    golfball37
    Registered Users Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭golfball37


    The amount of tourist dollar the UK sees because of HRH and her royal family more than makes up for the upkeep cost.

    Happy birthday your majesty.


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    #99
    Edward Hopper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 713 ✭✭✭Edward Hopper


    wokingvoter wrote: »
    Can't come soon enough for who?

    Well me, the person who posted the post, crazy eh?

    There's probably others too, but I'll let them decide if it can come soon enough for them.


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    #100
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Ceremonial? *scoff* Reading some of the posts here they do a damn hard job of work!

    They do, as I'm sure Ireland's ceremonial head of state does.


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    #101
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    They do, as I'm sure Ireland's ceremonial head of state does.

    So why earmark people from birth for all jobs?


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    #102
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Ush1 wrote: »
    So why earmark people from birth for all jobs?

    Why not?


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    #103
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Why not?

    Works in North Korea?


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    #104
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Works in North Korea?

    And Sweden


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    #105
    golfball37
    Registered Users Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Why not?

    Works in Eire too shur. I can tell you already who the future TDs are for about 10 constituencies, I can also predict who will be presenting on RTE in 20 years time.

    I love the way the Irish scoff at British heraldry and the hereditery rights implied with it. At least the Brits are open about it and there's some structure to it.


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    #106
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    And Sweden

    Interesting. I must ask my Swedish collegue what job he was entitled to at birth.....

    Strangely he didn't have a clue what I was talking about.


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    #107
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,383 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I like the Queen. She made a lot of friends here in 2011 by laying a wreath at the Garden of Remembrance and visiting Croke Park etc and by speaking in Irish at Dublin Castle. She showed she had respect for us.


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    #108
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Interesting. I must ask my Swedish collegue what job he was entitled to at birth.....

    Strangely he didn't have a clue what I was talking about.

    I was, of course, referring to ceremonial heads of state.

    How you relate that to all jobs is a tad bizarre.


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    #109
    shane9689
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    I like the Queen. She made a lot of friends here in 2011 by laying a wreath at the Garden of Remembrance and visiting Croke Park etc and by speaking in Irish at Dublin Castle. She showed she had respect for us.

    As long as I can call her Lizzy and never obliged to call her "her Majesty", shes welcome to sit around and lay wreaths...lay wreaths everywhere! sure why not...not that hard to do anyway....


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    #110
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    I was, of course, referring to ceremonial heads of state.

    How you relate that to all jobs is a tad bizarre.

    This post right here:
    Originally Posted by Ush1 View Post

    So why earmark people from birth for all jobs?

    What's bizarre about it exactly?


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    #111
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Who said anything about earmarking people from birth for all jobs?


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    #112
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Who said anything about earmarking all people from birth?

    I asked the question! The only bizarre thing, removing all the nonsense, is taxes paying for a family to live in a palace just because they are who they are.


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    #113
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Ush1 wrote: »
    I asked the question! The only bizarre thing, removing all the nonsense, is taxes paying for a family to live in a palace just because they are who they are.

    As has been said previously several times. If you were starting from scratch, you wouldn't choose this system today, but why change a system that doesn't hurt anyone and gives a form of continuity.


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    #114
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    The Young Wan wrote: »
    The original Lizard Queen

    Grrrrreat! Call Krieger and Densmore. I'll do the keyboard bits.


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    #115
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    As has been said previously several times. If you were starting from scratch, you wouldn't choose this system today, but why change a system that doesn't hurt anyone and gives a form of continuity.

    And as I have said, behead them as the French did.


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    #116
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Ush1 wrote: »
    And as I have said, behead them as the French did.

    And end having to choose between an ex terrorist, a neurotic minor celebrity, a paedophile apologist and a dodgy businessman to take their place?

    Nah, you're ok thanks.


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    #117
    Edward Hopper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 713 ✭✭✭Edward Hopper


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    And end having to choose between an ex terrorist, a neurotic minor celebrity, a paedophile apologist and a dodgy businessman to take their place?

    Nah, you're ok thanks.

    Once they're beheaded I think we get to choose a president. Someone suggested an Italian, you're suggesting American? Or Irish? . I suggest someone from the UK, I did think there might be an option to share a president with another country but I think you have to pick your own.


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    #118
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Edward Hopper wrote: »
    Once they're beheaded I think we get to choose a president. Someone suggested an Italian, you're suggesting American? Or Irish? . I suggest someone from the UK, I did think there might be an option to share a president with another country but I think you have to pick your own.

    What?


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    #119
    Edward Hopper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 713 ✭✭✭Edward Hopper


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    What?

    You've suggested some choices for president, presumably not from out of your arsehole but rather from real life?


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    #120
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    And end having to choose between an ex terrorist, a neurotic minor celebrity, a paedophile apologist and a dodgy businessman to take their place?

    Nah, you're ok thanks.

    You could always run yourself you know? Show some good British initiative.


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    #121
    youreadthat
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭youreadthat


    Monarchy is clearly backwards.....but so's religion so Ireland can't throw too many stones considering it's a lot more religious.


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