Connacht vs Munster, Sat 16th April 19.15, Sportsground. Sky Sports 5/TG4

Synode

Great game so far. Munster were probably the better team when 15 v 15 but their discipline cost them

thomond2006

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

It's very rare that the penalty try is given without any reset. Regardless, it all goes back to the Cronin card. What should have been a Munster penalty became the catalyst for Connacht getting into the game.

It was inevitable. 8 vs 6.

2smiggy

With the time up in the half , are u allowed call a scrum? Normally see a quick tap, and never allowed go for a line out?

irishbucsfan

Munster can still definitely win this one. They need to improve their discipline and establish more possession and territory, I think they can do both though. First need to keep Connacht's hands off the ball until they lose their advantage. Connacht are definitely beatable today.

vetinari

The first yellow card has been the main moment of the game so far. Pretty ridiculous, a yellow card after 2 scrum penalties. The second one looked like it could have gone either way. The Connacht prop just threw himself on the ground

qwert55

First time I've seen Munster play in a while and they are really poor and leaderless. fair play to Connaught...great try

LuckyGent88

The Cronin yellow has cost us the game. Thought it was pretty harsh to be honest but Connacht have taken full advantage of it now.

Richard Hillman

Are you able to kick the ball out for a line-out after the 40mins is up? I am convinced you are able to do it in Super Rugby.

its_phil

vetinari wrote: »

The first yellow card has been the main moment of the game so far. Pretty ridiculous, a yellow card after 2 scrum penalties. The second one looked like it could have gone either way. The Connacht prop just threw himself on the ground

That was the third and Bealham was clearly pulled down

irishbucsfan

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

It's very rare that the penalty try is given without any reset. Regardless, it all goes back to the Cronin card. What should have been a Munster penalty became the catalyst for Connacht getting into the game.

Wrong on all counts I'm afraid. Munster have themselves to blame for being down to 6 and penalty tries are given on the first scrum if it's a clear try.

Mahatma Geansai

its_phil wrote: »

Not Bens fault Cronin continuously scrummaging illegal.

Also that scrum was going very clearly over the try line. Buckley and Bealham having big games

Bealham blatently flopped on his belly. It should have been a Munster penalty. Whitehouse messed up the decision and changed the game in the process.

hogandrew

Cracking game of rugby so far. Really enjoyable. Even down to 13 I wouldn't write off Munster but they need kilcoyne on soon

The Rape of Lucretia

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

And a penalty try on the first. Munster will not win with Whitehouse reffing. It all goes back the wrongful yellow of Cronin.

Cronin was at fault. Had Whitehouse not warned previously it would have been harsh. 5 minutes earlier, he stopped the game and called all 4 props and warned that unless they changed there would be a card coming quickly.
They were warned. Cronin made the mistake. He cant complain.

Diabhal Beag

Seems like a game where we'll easily get 8 tries

its_phil

Munster are more than capable of winning this. Attack looks good and line speed impressive.

blackdog1

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

It's very rare that the penalty try is given without any reset. Regardless, it all goes back to the Cronin card. What should have been a Munster penalty became the catalyst for Connacht getting into the game.

You mad if you think cronin didn't pull that down. Clearest penalty I've seen all year. Pulled down rolled his shoulder and hinged. Fair play to Whitehouse.

thomond2006

I think Munster can absolutely win this if we can get out of Holland's sinbin unscathed. However any scrum in that period is a writeoff as it stands.

The Rape of Lucretia

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

It's very rare that the penalty try is given without any reset. Regardless, it all goes back to the Cronin card. What should have been a Munster penalty became the catalyst for Connacht getting into the game.

:eek::eek::eek:

former total

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

And a penalty try on the first. Munster will not win with Whitehouse reffing. It all goes back the wrongful yellow of Cronin.

Whitehouse knows the rules. You don't.

That explains your confusion

wp_rathead

Bealham looking like the heir to Mike Ross
Buckley making a farce of his exclusion from Irish Squad

Munster playing nice rugby at times tbf but I'm confident we can win
Good game

Buer

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

It's very rare that the penalty try is given without any reset. Regardless, it all goes back to the Cronin card. What should have been a Munster penalty became the catalyst for Connacht getting into the game.

It's rare a penalty try is so obvious on the first put in that an officiating team of Stevie Wonder, Helen Keller and Ray Charles could clearly see it was a penalty try.

Neil3030

Bealham really is looking more and more like he'll end up our long term starting Irish tighthead.

2smiggy

Also the ref does not seem to want Munster contesting at the break down when perfectly legal. Everything is hands off, hands off. Between him and that other Welsh ref hodges, you know ure screwed before the match ever starts

ionadnapokot

wp_rathead wrote: »

Bealham looking like the heir to Mike Ross
Buckley making a farce of his exclusion from Irish Squad

Munster playing nice rugby at times tbf but I'm confident we can win
Good game

It's a cracking game!
Go Finlay

oneofakind32

I know there was problem with the TMO at the Leinster games. I haven't heard Ben Whitehouse speak on the match feed and he hasn't gone to the TMO in the first half. It looks like no TMO again for this game which is a bit embarrassing as a Connacht fan.

Yeah_Right

blackdog1 wrote: »

You mad if you think cronin didn't pull that down. Clearest penalty I've seen all year. Pulled down rolled his shoulder and hinged. Fair play to Whitehouse.

I'm a Munster fan and as soon as I saw that scrum I thought "wtf is Cronin doing?" YC was fair.

Orchard Rebel

Hell of a lot better than the fare served up by Leinster and Munster in the Aviva the other week.....

2smiggy

oneofakind32 wrote: »

I know there was problem with the TMO at the Leinster games. I haven't heard Ben Whitehouse speak on the match feed and he hasn't gone to the TMO in the first half. It looks like no TMO again for this game which is a bit embarrassing as a Connacht fan.

It must be the case, as I thought Earls chance definitely deserved a second look as he seemed to think he scored

Utah_Saint

Neil3030 wrote: »

Bealham really is looking more and more like he'll end up our long term starting Irish tighthead.

Clarke needs a slap if he was the one to let him go

The Rape of Lucretia

2smiggy wrote: »

Also the ref does not seem to want Munster contesting at the break down when perfectly legal. Everything is hands off, hands off. Between him and that other Welsh ref hodges, you know ure screwed before the match ever starts

Both teams cant be screwed because of a ref before a match starts !
Smart teams who can play to the rules and the characteristics of refs arent. Lesser teams who are not up to doing that, maybe you are right.