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WWW : Connacht vs Leinster

  • 21-03-2016 12:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    Top of the table clash
    You can decide to vote later as we don't know how many international players on each side:) will be involved

    WWW Connacht vs Leinster 76 votes

    Connacht
    0% 0 votes
    Leinster
    59% 45 votes
    Robbie Henshaw
    40% 31 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Vote with heart and not head and gone with Leinster :-)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,187 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    While it would have understandably been difficult to foresee this clash for what it has ended up being, it's a damn shame that the top of the table match up won't have full squads. Obviously this impacts Leinster moreso - Connacht have to fancy their chances. Don't win here and their chance of topping the table is gone you would think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    While it would have understandably been difficult to foresee this clash for what it has ended up being, it's a damn shame that the top of the table match up won't have full squads. Obviously this impacts Leinster moreso - Connacht have to fancy their chances. Don't win here and their chance of topping the table is gone you would think.

    Well the IRFU could just release all the players.

    What will the Grand Slam winning English players be up to this weekend?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,187 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    bilston wrote: »
    Well the IRFU could just release all the players.

    What will the Grand Slam winning English players be up to this weekend?

    Well they could, but they obviously won't.

    They'll be playing for their clubs because the RFU doesn't have a choice in the matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I think we'll see more players released than usual. All the provinces bar Connacht will have the European weekends to rest players. The stakes are also much bigger than in previous years. The winner of this more or less guarantees a home-semi final.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭neelia11


    interesting comment about henshaw possibly playing....


    http://www.pro12rugby.com/news/19355.php#ft7dxs3yTFG4c5h8.97


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Well they could, but they obviously won't.

    They'll be playing for their clubs because the RFU doesn't have a choice in the matter.

    I know, but with no Europe (except for Connacht), why not get all these guys playing. Take it in a case by case basis by all means, but I don't think there should be a black and white rule ruling all those who started against Scotland out of this weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    I wonder if the margin for bargainning could be about "when" the rest week occurs rather than "if". That would explain Henshaw may play this W-E and be rested against Ulster, whereas Toner and Heaslip for example are kept fresh for Munster.

    Some news about Parata? Aki pairing with him would still be quality association...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I'd be surprised to see Henshaw in the mix.

    Strauss, Cronin, Cian Healy, Ruddock, Reddan, Marmion though I'd expect to be somewhere in the Leinster squad, maybe even Rob Kearney too!

    It's a big game for Marmion, Healy, and TOH too as all eyes will be on them for this one to see where they really are at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭b.gud


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I'd be surprised to see Henshaw in the mix.

    Strauss, Cronin, Cian Healy, Ruddock, Reddan, Marmion though I'd expect to be somewhere in the Leinster squad, maybe even Rob Kearney too!

    It's a big game for Marmion, Healy, and TOH too as all eyes will be on them for this one to see where they really are at.

    Typical Leinster fan trying to take Connacht players :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Is it set in stone that the internationals can't play or is it a moveable feast when the rest weeks are given, as long as they get rested?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    stephen_n wrote: »
    Is it set in stone that the internationals can't play or is it a moveable feast when the rest weeks are given, as long as they get rested?

    I think it's usually a moveable feast but the week after the Six Nations is usually one of the few weekends that are locked in. However with no European action for Leinster, Munster and Ulster the rules may be subject to bending this year. It's conceivable that some provinces only have four games left this season. That being the case what are the players being held back for?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    b.gud wrote: »
    Typical Leinster fan trying to take Connacht players :D

    Ha I meant Madigan, or did I.......;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,908 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Is this like for the title of "best team in the world ever"?

    You know the "we won, we won, nah Na nah Na nah"

    Like "we'll see who finishes top to prove the point that the others are a bunch of smelly heads".

    Reckon Leinster should have the edge here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    stephen_n wrote: »
    Is it set in stone that the internationals can't play or is it a moveable feast when the rest weeks are given, as long as they get rested?

    It used to be IRFU imposed rest weeks. First couple of games of the year, before and after international windows. But I heard this year it was now on a player by player basis. They can play X amount of games in a year and the club can choose which they miss.

    That is bad news for Connacht, because Leinster are out of Europe and many of their best players haven't played vast amounts of league games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    It's fairly good news if Henshaw can play this though. Ulster away may be sacrificed if needed, not that sure though as Robbie missed 5 or 6 league games because of injury.

    Marmion/McGinty/Aki/Henshaw/Healy/Poolman/TOH shouldn't fear any Leinster backline.
    Rested Buckley and Muldowney should have huge influx in the pack too, whoever they face.

    Can't wait for this one, already inside the Sportsground in my head


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    We're only talking about five Leinster players anyway. Any of those five who get to play this week will definitely not be playing against Munster the following week so it's six of one, 'alf dozen of t'other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭b.gud


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Ha I meant Madigan, or did I.......;)

    Figured it was a typo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I'd like to think we'll see the two Messiahs playing for Leinster even with Reddan and Fitzgerald available. It may end up though that we'll see the more experienced guys playing even though they're not the one.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Is Fitzgerald really back the minute the 6N is over?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    Is Fitzgerald really back the minute the 6N is over?

    Trained today. Six Nations came a week too early.

    Hard to see him featuring this weekend but maybe against Munster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    I'm glad it'll be a pretty strong Leinster team to come up against Connacht. The stronger the better.

    Leinster at home has always been a game that Connacht are capable of winning and with the season they're having I'll back the lads to shade it again this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Let's not kid ourselves here. Connacht have done well to top the league and stay there.

    There are reasons behind that too. Like the others losing key players for an extended duration of the RWC. The injuries to key players during the world cup and again a loss of key players during the six nation's. Granted Connacht did take a sizeable hit on that front this six nation's.

    Leinster will take this though. Home game and if we get half of our firsts back we'll be comfortable against Connacht.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Let's not kid ourselves here. Connacht have done well to top the league and stay there.

    There are reasons behind that too. Like the others losing key players for an extended duration of the RWC. The injuries to key players during the world cup and again a loss of key players during the six nation's. Granted Connacht did take a sizeable hit on that front this six nation's.

    Leinster will take this though. Home game and if we get half of our firsts back we'll be comfortable against Connacht.

    Hang on a sec, I think saying a Connacht victory prediction is "kidding yourself" is a little arrogant.

    To be clear it's a home game for Connacht, in Galway. It wouldn't be the first time Connacht beat Leinster in Galway in the past few years and this year their performances are clearly better than ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Apologies, error on my part. Home game for Connacht :)

    It's incredibly arrogant of me. In the past we've underestimated them. I genuinely cannot see Leinster come away with a loss.

    It's not unknown for me to have egg on my face though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Apologies, error on my part. Home game for Connacht :)

    It's incredibly arrogant of me. In the past we've underestimated them. I genuinely cannot see Leinster come away with a loss.

    It's not unknown for me to have egg on my face though :)

    The result of this exact fixture last year was Connacht 10 - 9 Leinster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Bazzo wrote: »
    The result of this exact fixture last year was Connacht 10 - 9 Leinster.

    OK?




  • Trained today. Six Nations came a week too early.

    Hard to see him featuring this weekend but maybe against Munster.

    Even if he'd been fit last week be wouldn't have featured for Ireland having not been involved at all up to that point. Hope he plays this weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Let's not kid ourselves here. Connacht have done well to top the league and stay there.

    There are reasons behind that too. Like the others losing key players for an extended duration of the RWC. The injuries to key players during the world cup and again a loss of key players during the six nation's. Granted Connacht did take a sizeable hit on that front this six nation's.

    Leinster will take this though. Home game and if we get half of our firsts back we'll be comfortable against Connacht.

    The fact that you didn't know who was at home is probably a fair indicator of how much attention should be given to that post.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Oooh looks like we might have a bit of edge and spite to this game, it's been a while since we had some of that for the interpros :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Oooh looks like we might have a bit of edge and spite to this game, it's been a while since we had some of that for the interpros :D

    Just wait till next year ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Apologies, error on my part. Home game for Connacht :)

    It's incredibly arrogant of me. In the past we've underestimated them. I genuinely cannot see Leinster come away with a loss.

    It's not unknown for me to have egg on my face though :)

    I'd have thought Connacht would be favourites for this? Home game. Less interrupted by the 6n call ups etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    .ak wrote: »
    I'd have thought Connacht would be favourites for this? Home game. Less interrupted by the 6n call ups etc?
    That would be my read on it. The bookies disagree though.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,187 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    .ak wrote: »
    I'd have thought Connacht would be favourites for this? Home game. Less interrupted by the 6n call ups etc?

    Bu Leinster are inherently more awesome.

    Close call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    ClanofLams wrote: »
    The fact that you didn't know who was at home is probably a fair indicator of how much attention should be given to that post.

    Let he without sin cast the first stone.

    I made a mistake. Wow. Do you want to take our willies out and wave them at each other and see who's is more blue?
    .ak wrote: »
    I'd have thought Connacht would be favourites for this? Home game. Less interrupted by the 6n call ups etc?

    True but you'd also imagine that a bulk of the Leinster caps will be released back to them to make use of. Along with the likes of D. Kearney and Fitzgerald and perhaps even R. Kearney slotting back in, Leinster have plenty of depth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Let he without sin cast the first stone.

    I made a mistake. Wow. Do you want to take our willies out and wave them at each other and see who's is more blue?

    Well when you're predicting a comfortable victory against a team who has only lost once at home all season and that in a one score game the venue is fairly important.

    Have no idea what you're on about above but errr no you're alright thanks.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think this could be a fascinating fixture. I'm actually really looking forward to it and I think both teams are going to be treating it as a cup final given the impact it will have on the table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    ClanofLams wrote: »
    Well when you're predicting a comfortable victory against a team who has only lost once at home all season and that in a one score game the venue is fairly important.

    Have no idea what you're on about above but errr no you're alright thanks.

    We're also looking at a team who lost in conditions more suited to the Sportsground 13 - 0

    This entire thread is speculative. Do i believe Leinster will win ? Absolutely if we've got our team back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    MugMugs wrote: »
    We're also looking at a team who lost in conditions more suited to the Sportsground 13 - 0

    Ah yes I forgot how the RDS is free of wind and rain 364 days of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    MugMugs wrote: »
    We're also looking at a team who lost in conditions more suited to the Sportsground 13 - 0

    This entire thread is speculative. Do i believe Leinster will win ? Absolutely if we've got our team back.

    So your telling me that the team who likes to play free flowing rugby struggled in the worst conditions they've played in all season lost? I'm shocked.

    Also it's a myth the sportsground has the worse weather. all the Irish provinces are effected by it by virtue of being in Ireland


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    So your telling me that the team who likes to play free flowing rugby struggled in the worst conditions they've played in all season lost? I'm shocked.

    Also it's a myth the sportsground has the worse weather. all the Irish provinces are effected by it by virtue of being in Ireland

    It's wetter and windier in Galway than it is in Dublin. That is absolute fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    It's wetter and windier in Galway than it is in Dublin. That is absolute fact.

    We've only had one wet match all season and it was nothing in comparison to that game in the RDS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    We've only had one wet match all season and it was nothing in comparison to that game in the RDS

    I have no idea, just pointing out that the weather in the Sportsground is indeed worse than in the RDS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭b.gud


    So your telling me that the team who likes to play free flowing rugby struggled in the worst conditions they've played in all season lost? I'm shocked.

    Also it's a myth the sportsground has the worse weather. all the Irish provinces are effected by it by virtue of being in Ireland
    It's wetter and windier in Galway than it is in Dublin. That is absolute fact.

    Agree with the first part of your post connemara man, Connacht are def a team that no longer want it to be wet and wild at the sportsground, (that sounds very porno-esque :eek:). But I'm gonna have to go with former total on the weather one. While both are in Ireland and subject to sh!te weather Galway def does have worse overall weather than Dublin, and is more likely to have rain or wind at a match. Though when the sun shines there's no where better in the country than Galway :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    I have no idea, just pointing out that the weather in the Sportsground is indeed worse than in the RDS.

    Wind? Yes. Rain? This isn't an alien concept to people in Dublin in December.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    its_phil wrote: »
    Wind? Yes. Rain? This isn't an alien concept to people in Dublin in December.

    364 days of sunshine in south Dublin, ye just got unlucky with that one day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    b.gud wrote: »
    Agree with the first part of your post connemara man, Connacht are def a team that no longer want it to be wet and wild at the sportsground, (that sounds very porno-esque :eek:). But I'm gonna have to go with former total on the weather one. While both are in Ireland and subject to sh!te weather Galway def does have worse overall weather than Dublin, and is more likely to have rain or wind at a match. Though when the sun shines there's no where better in the country than Galway :D
    Yep. Last year, Athenry weather station recorded 1.575 metres of rainfall. Dublin Airport recorded 0.878 metres. Almost half of what Galway had.

    Once you pass Athlone, there's a significant climate change :eek:


  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I think Connacht have the edge in this one. Voted for them anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    It's pretty ominous that discussions on the weather have turned into an inter-provincial argument...
    In fairness I think that due to the open nature of the sports ground and it's proximity to the ocean that when the weather is bad it probably has more of an impact on the pitch compared to those fancy stadium things that other provinces use...
    MugMugs wrote: »
    ....

    I made a mistake. Wow. Do you want to take our willies out and wave them at each other and see who's is more blue? ....

    More one sided commentary from Leinster fans, our willies are green down here....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    MugMugs wrote: »
    We're also looking at a team who lost in conditions more suited to the Sportsground 13 - 0

    This entire thread is speculative. Do i believe Leinster will win ? Absolutely if we've got our team back.

    Ah that tired old cliché :rolleyes:


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