Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

adunis

Nah standard Ioniq behaviour,
12v battery will last prob 3/4 years,
Best bet throw a cheepo booster pack off eBay in the glovebox and learn how to open the doors with the emergency key/ release the charge cable with the pull cable ,even with the 22v knackered it will only act the p@#ck once in a blue moon.

Efitz2019

adunis wrote: »

Nah standard Ioniq behaviour,
12v battery will last prob 3/4 years,
Best bet throw a cheepo booster pack off eBay in the glovebox and learn how to open the doors with the emergency key/ release the charge cable with the pull cable ,even with the 22v knackered it will only act the p@#ck once in a blue moon.

Thanks I'll pick one up and leave it in the car cheers

unkel

Efitz2019 wrote: »

Thanks I'll pick one up and leave it in the car cheers

They are brilliant and a steal at around EUR25-30 if you can get one in a sale. Make sure you know how to physically open the Ioniq door with the key though, as adunis suggested already!

zg3409

Black_Knight wrote: »

Car is/was due its yearly service a few weeks ago, but with everything closed I didn't bother looking into it. Kearys emailed to say they're reopening for essential maintenance and pre-nct (I wouldn't count my car service as essential), so I contacted Hyundai.

In the agents own words - "I am not certain if it will affect your warranty". They're going to contact me about it and I guess try schedule a service. I've no intention of getting my car services under the current regulations though.

Mine is due its service. I changed the cabin pollen filter for a part costing 11 euro including delivery. No tools needed, drop down glove box, guide came with filter. Dealer charged me 35 euro + labour last time for this. I will get it serviced when I can, but I won't be paying for cabin filter.

Black_Knight

zg3409 wrote: »

Mine is due its service. I changed the cabin pollen filter for a part costing 11 euro including delivery. No tools needed, drop down glove box, guide came with filter. Dealer charged me 35 euro + labour last time for this. I will get it serviced when I can, but I won't be paying for cabin filter.

Cabin filters are one of the greatest scams dealers have during a service.

slave1

Absolutely, I change all mine, only takes minutes

unkel

I feel sorry for the dealers though. The very last thing they could do in a service to EVs that they can make a bit of a profit on is the aul pollen filter. And now we're all doing that one ourselves too

3 years of owning my Ioniq and I spent €0.00 on servicing + €163.80 for two tyres incl. shipping + €30 fitting them

And if I had known I was about to sell the car, I need not have bothered even changing these tyres as they were still road legal

Black_Knight

unkel wrote: »

I feel sorry for the dealers though. The very last thing they could do in a service to EVs that they can make a bit of a profit on is the aul pollen filter. And now we're all doing that one ourselves too

3 years of owning my Ioniq and I spent €0.00 on servicing + €163.80 for two tyres incl. shipping + €30 fitting them

And if I had known I was about to sell the car, I need not have bothered even changing these tyres as they were still road legal

A Cork lady thanks you for them. It rains more here

unkel

And I hope the car serves her as well as it did me. Excellent car, the Ioniq electric. But sure we all know that in this thread, no need to preach to the converted

Gael23

What home home charge points are good with the Ioniq?

unkel

Doesn't matter. As long as it's a 32A charge point.

Kramer

unkel wrote: »

Your missus has a light foot

But yeah, that's pretty comprehensive support for what I've been saying for a long time. You can get 300km out of an Ioniq if you want, without resorting to hypermiling techniques. But not at motorway speeds or in winter obviously.

unkel wrote: »

Haha, did it for you took 3 minutes. 306km is her weighted average range of Ioniq

293km @ 98% = 299km :eek:.

I guess I'll need to tow her around for another few hundred kilmometers to get the GOM to show over 300km .

Black_Knight

Black_Knight wrote: »

Car is/was due its yearly service a few weeks ago, but with everything closed I didn't bother looking into it. Kearys emailed to say they're reopening for essential maintenance and pre-nct (I wouldn't count my car service as essential), so I contacted Hyundai.

In the agents own words - "I am not certain if it will affect your warranty". They're going to contact me about it and I guess try schedule a service. I've no intention of getting my car services under the current regulations though.

Got that cleared up. Warranty unaffected. Tried booking me in for next week but I bowed out of that. Too awkward to drop it in for no reason really considering their flexibility at these times.

Think I heard €90 mentioned, so not too bad either

lafors

Anyone else seeing bad range on their Ioniq? Mine is a 181. When I got it I'd see 210km on the range after a full charge, this then dropped and i'd see 190, not even seeing 200 anymore even in good weather.
In the recent couple of months I've not seen any over late 170s. And it's driving to that range too, i.e. not underestimating it.

I drive it ~65km each weekday and would charge every second day.

So anyone seeing these low figures?
Also anyone know the easiest way to see the battery condition on an Ioniq?

Kramer

lafors wrote: »

Anyone else seeing bad range on their Ioniq?

Nothing wrong with ours anyway. Maybe check your tyre pressures or did you perhaps change tyres to something less efficient?
What is your efficiency/consumption figure history?
Easy to check in the EV menu.

lafors wrote: »

Also anyone know the easiest way to see the battery condition on an Ioniq?

Well there are the battery bars/gauge on the right hand side & an app called Torque (with some tweaking) in combination with an OBD adapter.

What mileage is on your Ioniq?

unkel

Seems very low, you're in Dublin so presumably you don't do much over 100km/h in your commute? With the warmish weather of the past few weeks you should see over 200km range really, even if you have a heavy foot. What's your tyre pressures? If they are early 30s (but not low enough for the warning to come on) I guess you could lose a good 20km range just because of that.

lafors

Kramer wrote: »

Nothing wrong with ours anyway. Maybe check your tyre pressures or did you perhaps change tyres to something less efficient?
What is your efficiency/consumption figure history?
Easy to check in the EV menu.

Well there are the battery bars/gauge on the right hand side & an app called Torque (with some tweaking) in combination with an OBD adapter.

What mileage is on your Ioniq?

Only on 33k.
Efficiency is around 14/15kWh/100km

unkel wrote: »

Seems very low, you're in Dublin so presumably you don't do much over 100km/h in your commute? With the warmish weather of the past few weeks you should see over 200km range really, even if you have a heavy foot. What's your tyre pressures? If they are early 30s (but not low enough for the warning to come on) I guess you could lose a good 20km range just because of that.

Tire pressure is good I've checked it, same type of tyres as were on it originally.

Kramer

lafors wrote: »

Efficiency is around 14/15kWh/100km

28kWh usable battery so that should equate to between 186km to 200km range on the GOM. I wouldn't think the GOM showing high 170s is anything to be concerned about to be honest.

You'd need the bring the consumption down to see the estimated range increase - I would think 12kWh/100km should be easily achieveable with largely urban commuting.

14/15kWh/100km seems highish enough to me given how efficient the Ioniq is, depending on road type of course & driving style.

But I think high 170s looks OK given those efficiency figures.

unkel

lafors wrote: »

Efficiency is around 14/15kWh/100km

14kWh / 100km is a range of 200km, which is also the EPA / WLTP range of the car. And pretty much par for the course for mixed driving in mild enough (non-winter) weather. Can you show us a list of the consumption of the last few days (like Kramer did recently). Maybe the low GOM is at odds with the real consumption you are getting? I presume you are on the latest firmware?

Are you sure your tyre pressures are at least high 30s? I can't remember from memory what they are supposed to be exactly. I'm sure it's been mentioned here and is also in the manual.

jprboy

unkel wrote: »

….Are you sure your tyre pressures are at least high 30s? I can't remember from memory what they are supposed to be exactly. I'm sure it's been mentioned here and is also in the manual.

It's 36.

KCross

lafors wrote: »

Only on 33k.
Efficiency is around 14/15kWh/100km.

My guess is that with the quieter roads your average speed is up, hence lower efficiency?

unkel

KCross wrote: »

My guess is that with the quieter roads your average speed is up, hence lower efficiency?

Didn't think of that. You might very well be right. I have caught myself driving much faster on the M50 in the last few months than I would have (or could have) done before.

lafors

So I took the last 30 trips data (what the Ioniq records) and for 688km my average is 16.76kWh/100km

So actually working that out it's around 167km range I think.
I'd say you're right then, clearer roads and a heavier than normal foot are the factors

Is there any way of clearing the memory of those trips? I'd be interested to see what the current distance is without driver influence

Kramer

lafors wrote: »

So I took the last 30 trips data (what the Ioniq records) and for 688km my average is 16.76kWh/100km

Heavy right foot - & why not!

lafors wrote: »

Is there any way of clearing the memory of those trips? I'd be interested to see what the current distance is without driver influence

Not that I'm aware of & it will always show an estimate of range, which is based on your previous usage/efficiency. There's no "rated range", like Tesla.

Your car is fine - it sounds like you are looking to find something wrong IMO.

Perhaps you are looking to upgrade & trying to justify this to yourself?

:pac:

Kramer

Usual caveat - no motorway or high speed driving, rural & urban driving with low average speed & a light right footed driver :eek:.
All return journeys too so no elevation/wind advantages etc.



Averaging 8.83kWh/100km giving an estimated range of 317km.

This won't be typical for prospective Ioniq owners - it's largely due to the current driving profile, ultra quiet roads & mild weather, but it's an indicator again of just how efficient the Ioniq can be.

lafors

Kramer wrote: »

Heavy right foot - & why not!



Not that I'm aware of & it will always show an estimate of range, which is based on your previous usage/efficiency. There's no "rated range", like Tesla.

Your car is fine - it sounds like you are looking to find something wrong IMO.

Perhaps you are looking to upgrade & trying to justify this to yourself?

:pac:

Hahaha, the car will be going back to the fleet company in January so I will be changing. The car is brilliant, if I was Joe public looking for a 2+2 family car that's so easy to drive and nippy too I'd find it hard to not recommend and that's even before the savings on fuel.

But yes I'll be changing....and upgrading

Kramer wrote: »

Usual caveat - no motorway or high speed driving, rural & urban driving with low average speed & a light right footed driver :eek:.
All return journeys too so no elevation/wind advantages etc.



Averaging 8.83kWh/100km giving an estimated range of 317km.

This won't be typical for prospective Ioniq owners - it's largely due to the current driving profile, ultra quiet roads & mild weather, but it's an indicator again of just how efficient the Ioniq can be.

That is mad Ted :pac:
How on earth are you getting those figures? You must be trying to get it that low surely??

unkel

What you are getting next, lafors?

Ehm, let me guess. A company leased car, significant upgrade from Ioniq, but has to be within a certain price range? That makes it very hard to guess. Tesla Model 3 maybe? :pac:

Kramer

lafors wrote: »

That is mad Ted :pac:
How on earth are you getting those figures?

Mrs. K always needed upwards of 200km, regardless of time of year, so she always drove accordingly. No motorway travel, usually urban & rural travel with low average speed.
It's a habit she has now i guess - she's no captain slow to be fair but recent traffic & warm weather have produced those figures.

Kramer

Carrying on from recent posts, I just checked the Ioniq again with Torque/OBD.



It's showing 100% SoH & 7280kWh cumulative energy discharged.
This would equate to 15kWh from new, including all types of weather, roads (motorways), heating, AC etc.

Cumulative energy charged is 7620kWh - I wonder if that includes recuperated charge or just "plugged in" charge. If just plugged in, it would indicate 340kWh in charging losses, approx 4.5%.

Cumulative charge/discharge current are near identical - 20,800Ah odd.

Interesting .

lafors

unkel wrote: »

What you are getting next, lafors?

Ehm, let me guess. A company leased car, significant upgrade from Ioniq, but has to be within a certain price range? That makes it very hard to guess. Tesla Model 3 maybe? :pac:

Nah the fleet companies have put the prices up on them and even puts the Ioniq 5k out of our budget now :mad:
I'll drop out and get something myself. I had a test drive booked of the model 3 alright but that got canned obviously.
Other option is to go mad again, came from a V8 to electric :pac: