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Atlantic Dawn

MarkAnthony wrote: »

In the UK they catch a huge amount of people with no insurance, partly (a minor part I grant you) why they pay less for insurance in the UK. They also catch large numbers of people equipped to steal, with knives etc and organised gangs of thieves.

Being held up for a few minutes is a very small price to pay, especially when you know they're all there doing that (something worthwhile) and you can put the boot down once out of sight.

They have only recently used this common sense here, the car with a blown head or tail light is much more likely to be a dodge mobile.

VincePP

Jesus. wrote: »

Why would you be happy being held up by them?

Why would anyone?

Again, it terribly obvious you've never been through one.

You drive at 80kmh for 2-3 km, slow down, be checked in couple of seconds and you're on your way.

Yet to experience being "held up" by anything more than a couple of minutes.

VincePP

MarkAnthony wrote: »

In the UK they catch a huge amount of people with no insurance, partly (a minor part I grant you) why they pay less for insurance in the UK..

Car insurance in uk is about 30% more expensive than here these days - even after recent increases.

I pay just under €600 here for commercial driving insurance with extras. Cheapest UK quote based on an apartment I own in Bishops Stortford was over £700. Never a claim and no points.

Falcon L

In Spain you could come around a bend in the motorway to face a wall of military style uniforms without any warning. One of these guys will have a very large gun pointed at your engine, in case you get the urge to drive through. Every car, van, truck and even motorbike will be checked.

Sometimes you will get warning in the form of 2km of solid, two lanes of cars that can take up to 2 hours to get through.

VincePP

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

With dash cams if they don't 100% have a fully approved way of having the checkpoint on a motorway they will be exposed as gob****es and open to multi million claims on deaths.

When you eventually go through one, you'll realise your post is ridiculous.

A set and safe procedure operated by a specialist traffic management company sets it up. Every last detail is covered. - You would have to be utterly stupid and blind not to be able to slow down safely and in a timely manner.

There's about 10 of these every year for the past 4-5 years including M50 (night time) and never once an incident, but they do take dozens of uninsured, untaxed, unroadworthy and drunk drivers off the road.

Or do you think drunk, untaxed, unroadworthy and uninsured drivers should be able to drive on the motorway without risk of being caught?

_Kaiser_

As someone who travels the M8 myself, I've twice come across a Garda obstruction without warning in Tipp.
Both times were road closures due to an incident, but the Gardai were positioned in the middle of the road at the slip road exit and just after bends in both cases

Given how quiet this motorway usually is, that's idiotic and dangerous. All you need is someone to be doing 160+ or not paying attention and it won't end well.

testicles

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_Kaiser_

testicles wrote: »

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I'm Irish and I frequently make disparaging remarks about the Irish - particularly when it comes to motoring or politics

bazz26

Some seized uninsured cars sent to be crushed:

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/734815589902979072

Veloce

Veloce wrote: »

3 months imprisonment? There has to be more to the story.

Should be noted that Zaidan is a controversial judge but there is no way you get jail time if its your first offence. Especially speeding, if you were jailed and appealed it would be quashed in a second. These are criminals with priors being jailed.

Jesus.

Why don't they auction them off?

K.Flyer

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They have only recently used this common sense here, the car with a blown head or tail light is much more likely to be a dodge mobile.

So what you are saying is that all law abiding drivers have never had a light pop while out driving.. ever. :rolleyes:

marno21

It genuinely amazes me how many disqualified drivers with no NCT, tax or insurance are caught because they're not wearing a seatbelt.

Special Circumstances

K.Flyer wrote: »

So what you are saying is that all law abiding drivers have never had a light pop while out driving.. ever. :rolleyes:

So what you're saying is that it's all an illuminati conspiracy?

If we're just gonna completely misinterprete posts let's aim big!

ezra_

marno21 wrote: »

It genuinely amazes me how many disqualified drivers with no NCT, tax or insurance are caught because they're not wearing a seatbelt.

I'm all for putting ANPR with speed cameras, but have the ANPR read every car that passes.

5+ years driving now, and not once have I been stopped in a checkpoint or had a guard looking at the tax/insurance etc.

ironclaw

ezra_ wrote: »

I'm all for putting ANPR with speed cameras, but have the ANPR read every car that passes.

5+ years driving now, and not once have I been stopped in a checkpoint or had a guard looking at the tax/insurance etc.

Mark my words, this will be tendered (At huge cost), won by GoSafe (With no competition) and cost the country millions in the next 5 to 10 years.

The reality is, you can build an ANPR set up for about €150 and all you need is some processing of the data captured. Does this reg have Insurance / Tax or NCT? No to any? Issue a fine.

This is so simple to implement it could literally be done in 3 months, and that's being generous. A couple of static sites and a mobile check or two for good measure.

Joined up thinking just don't exist here.

Atlantic Dawn

ironclaw wrote: »

This is so simple to implement it could literally be done in 3 months, and that's being generous. A couple of static sites and a mobile check or two for good measure.

Joined up thinking just don't exist here.

You could also shut down the whole issuing of motor tax discs as this system would check the cars and issue the fines automatically, big savings there too.

Falcon L

ironclaw wrote: »

Mark my words, this will be tendered (At huge cost), won by GoSafe (With no competition) and cost the country millions in the next 5 to 10 years.

The reality is, you can build an ANPR set up for about €150 and all you need is some processing of the data captured. Does this reg have Insurance / Tax or NCT? No to any? Issue a fine.

This is so simple to implement it could literally be done in 3 months, and that's being generous. A couple of static sites and a mobile check or two for good measure.

Joined up thinking just don't exist here.

All you say is true, however, if the gubbermint did things the easy way then how would they be able to funnel vast amounts of funds to REDACTED?:)

jca

ironclaw wrote: »

Mark my words, this will be tendered (At huge cost), won by GoSafe (With no competition) and cost the country millions in the next 5 to 10 years.

The reality is, you can build an ANPR set up for about €150 and all you need is some processing of the data captured. Does this reg have Insurance / Tax or NCT? No to any? Issue a fine.

This is so simple to implement it could literally be done in 3 months, and that's being generous. A couple of static sites and a mobile check or two for good measure.

Joined up thinking just don't exist here.

Without an insurance database your plan is dead in the water.

ironclaw

jca wrote: »

Without an insurance database your plan is dead in the water.

Not really all that hard to legislate a requirement for insurers to output to a common database when a car is due for renewal. Again, simple to implement if the willpower is there.

ofcork

marno21 wrote: »

It genuinely amazes me how many disqualified drivers with no NCT, tax or insurance are caught because they're not wearing a seatbelt.

Because they dont care about the tax/ins/nct so a seatbelt wont bother them either.

millington

ironclaw wrote: »

Mark my words, this will be tendered (At huge cost), won by GoSafe (With no competition) and cost the country millions in the next 5 to 10 years.

The reality is, you can build an ANPR set up for about €150 and all you need is some processing of the data captured. Does this reg have Insurance / Tax or NCT? No to any? Issue a fine.

This is so simple to implement it could literally be done in 3 months, and that's being generous. A couple of static sites and a mobile check or two for good measure.

Joined up thinking just don't exist here.

Wouldn't work for insurance. Too many variables, temporary transfers, trade policies, third party extensions.

Tax, yes. And by God I hope it doesn't happen. :eek:

ezra_

millington wrote: »

Wouldn't work for insurance. Too many variables, temporary transfers, trade policies, third party extensions.

Tax, yes. And by God I hope it doesn't happen. :eek:

Have the ANPR results issue a notice that you have 7 days to produce the documentation in respect of the insurance/tax/NCT that you didn't have.

If you can't demonstrate something, then you get the fine / standard punishment.

Not real change from the current system, just make sure you get a receipt when you submit the proof to the guards.

ironclaw

millington wrote: »

Wouldn't work for insurance. Too many variables, temporary transfers, trade policies, third party extensions.

Tax, yes. And by God I hope it doesn't happen. :eek:

Again, not really. When a change is made, the update is pushed to the central database. Simple legislation e.g. All changes to policies must be pushed to the database within 2 working days. That covers your grace periods, temporary transfers etc. It also has the upshot that you could offer insurance by the day or week, and likely remove the requirement for discs. Two birds, one stone.

Third Party Extensions and Trade policies are trickier. But the likelihood of a car having no valid insurance linked to the plate but yet being covered by an extension is fairly low. Business polices can be moved between cars, vans etc and often have no registration attached. Its not a big deal, in fact trivial, for insurers to supply the regs of the cars, vans etc under the fleet policy as most businesses have a set pool of vehicles. Mechanics are a different story, which is a fair caveat.

In the event a car was flagged, the onus is on the owner anyway to prove the car was insured. Give them 10 days to do so, similar to producing a license in a Garda station now. What if someone does this on a continual basis? Well, simply review the number of times a registration is 'excused' on these grounds and when a threshold is reached, a further review is conducted.

I cannot stress how easy this is to implement, its a college project in terms of complexity. I agree some people don't wish to be monitored, but people do realize ANPR is common place in car parks and many office blocks? City West business campus for example has ANPR in public areas.

Fred Swanson

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Atlantic Dawn

I see yesterdays gangland shooting in Dublin the Gardaí recovered a 7 Series BMW registration number 02-D-39051 from the scene of the shooting and took it away on a recovery truck. They then in their press conference referred to the car as a 5 Series, how hard can it be to identify a car when you actually have it in your possession and the registration number also states a 7 Series, the mind boggles at what level of IT or car knowledge the Gardaí have, shockingly sheite, do they need to contact BMW in Munich to assist?

https://www.cartell.ie/ssl/servlet/beginStarLookup?registration=02-D-39051

HeidiHeidi

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I see yesterdays gangland shooting in Dublin the Gardaí recovered a 7 Series BMW registration number 02-D-39051 from the scene of the shooting and took it away on a recovery truck. They then in their press conference referred to the car as a 5 Series, how hard can it be to identify a car when you actually have it in your possession and the registration number also states a 7 Series, the mind boggles at what level of IT or car knowledge the Gardaí have, shockingly sheite, do they need to contact BMW in Munich to assist?

https://www.cartell.ie/ssl/servlet/beginStarLookup?registration=02-D-39051

Have you considered contacting the Gardai on Twitter to inform them of their mistake?

Civic duty and all that.

Fattes

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I see yesterdays gangland shooting in Dublin the Gardaí recovered a 7 Series BMW registration number 02-D-39051 from the scene of the shooting and took it away on a recovery truck. They then in their press conference referred to the car as a 5 Series, how hard can it be to identify a car when you actually have it in your possession and the registration number also states a 7 Series, the mind boggles at what level of IT or car knowledge the Gardaí have, shockingly sheite, do they need to contact BMW in Munich to assist?

https://www.cartell.ie/ssl/servlet/beginStarLookup?registration=02-D-39051

Have you considered there may be more than 1 BMW involved in their instigation and they know what they want about the 7 series?

Atlantic Dawn

Fattes wrote: »

Have you considered there may be more than 1 BMW involved in their instigation and they know what they want about the 7 series?

They would/should have then said there was a 7 Series and 5 Series involved the same colour and using the same number plate and that they have recovered the 7 Series but are looking for a 5 Series and movements of same.

Duke O Smiley

I heard "black 3 series" on the radio yesterday.