Brazilian Jiu Jitsu - General Thread

TitianGerm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Question on behalf of a friend.
Where can one buy A5 gi pants?
Mate is a 6'4 and rugby player. A3 GI top fits him but even A4 pants are very tight on him because he has huge legs.

Any idea where he can pick up a few pairs of A5 pants in Ireland or online with delivery to Ireland?

Not sure if the likes of Wolfhound sell pants on their own but Tatami do just scroll to the bottom of the page on the link.

https://www.tatamifightwear.com/mens/bjj-gi.html

Subcomandante Marcos

emmetkenny wrote: »

Not sure if the likes of Wolfhound sell pants on their own but Tatami do just scroll to the bottom of the page on the link.

https://www.tatamifightwear.com/mens/bjj-gi.html

I've ordered him two pairs from there delivered to parcel motel. Thanks Emmet.

Drumsnotdead

Does anyone know if there are any competitons scheduled for summer?

There seemed to be a lot in March/April and I hear Naga are coming but can't see anything scheduled over the summer months. Just wondering as it is easier focus and train harder when you know you have a comp coming up.

TitianGerm

Drumsnotdead wrote: »

Does anyone know if there are any competitons scheduled for summer?

There seemed to be a lot in March/April and I hear Naga are coming but can't see anything scheduled over the summer months. Just wondering as it is easier focus and train harder when you know you have a comp coming up.

Try this link. It's to the Irish BBJ/Grappling Page on Facebook.

There is a pinned post at the top of the page which Liam Beechnnior (I think) keeps updated with the upcoming competitions.

Other clubs also post their seminars in there.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1419240074963839?view=permalink&id=1827241980830311

agent graves

i have been thinking about competing at some stage but i have a dilemma with the weight class.. im quiet lean at my current weight of 93 kg.. the weight class medium heavy is 83.3 kg and heavy is 94.3 kg.. i have never cut weight and i think droping down to the 88.3 kg is probably hard.. if i wanted to compete at heavy could i just weigh in at 93 and be good to go or must i bring my weight up to 94.3

TitianGerm

agent graves wrote: »

i have been thinking about competing at some stage but i have a dilemma with the weight class.. im quiet lean at my current weight of 93 kg.. the weight class medium heavy is 83.3 kg and heavy is 94.3 kg.. i have never cut weight and i think droping down to the 88.3 kg is probably hard.. if i wanted to compete at heavy could i just weigh in at 93 and be good to go or must i bring my weight up to 94.3

I'm 57kg and compete at 64kg because it's very rare to get a match at 57kg.

Bear in mind that if you go for heavy you need to weigh in below 94.5kg in your Gi (if your competing in Gi).

The weight cut wouldn't be to bad to 88 kg but your better off going at your natural weight for the first few times. As you train more you'll loose some of the weight so don't be fighting to get it really low now.

Mellor

agent graves wrote: »

if i wanted to compete at heavy could i just weigh in at 93 and be good to go or must i bring my weight up to 94.3

Heavy is 88.4 to 94.3kg, any where within that range is fine. Ideally, the closer to the upper limit the better. 1.3kg below is completely normal.
As Emmet said, this is your weight with your gi and belt on. Which will prob 3kg.



I'm about 75kg naturally. Which means giving up 4kg to the middleweight class limit. If I watch my food and water the day of com I can make 76kg in my light gi. But still have to compete in the heavier class in no-gi.

Black Sheep

Thinking of getting back into the sport after a layoff of a few years...

When I was training I think Jorge Santos had just set up and the rest of the gyms were coached by Irish guys. Just from googling around now it seems like the scene has kind of diversified and there are more lineages, different affiliations... Just more choice in general.

Adriano Dos Santos, Tony Bonora, Leo Darrigo and Marcos Romario are new to me. I was wondering if anyone who has trained at the likes of SBGI or another long running Irish gym has also trained with these guys and could give an opinion on whether there's a difference in the coaching, the vibe in the gym, the general approach taken etc.

I'm not asking which is 'better', just curious in general. My assumption wouldn't be that just because they are Brazilian black belts is that they are necessarily better coaches or more legit than senior Irish coaches.

(And yes, I know the only way to find out is to drop in and find out in person )

Mellor

Anybody train at East Coast JJ?
Seen this clip from worlds on reddit. From the comments I think he is from Ireland out if ECJJ.
Sick triangle/guard pull. Wonder how many times he drilled this move

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGLlvksDnKh/

TitianGerm

Mellor wrote: »

Anybody train at East Coast JJ?
Seen this clip from worlds on reddit. From the comments I think he is from Ireland out if ECJJ.
Sick triangle/guard pull. Wonder how many times he drilled this move

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGLlvksDnKh/

That's Richard Buckivasian (I think the spelling is right) really good blue belt with four tags under Darragh. He won four fights yesterday but got beaten in the quaters.

Riagnach won silver at Female White Feather and Sam McNally, Dean Barry and Marcus Phelan all won their first two fights but lost their thirds at Purple.

Darragh and a few of his other guys are on the mats today.

I haven't heard yet how either of the Sheridan's (run Satori) got on yet.

Mellor

Seen this today and thought it was cool, Brock has been training in the Gi, fair play to him.
Then I realized that if we were at the same comp, I could face him in absolute :eek:

Mini850

Mellor wrote: »

Seen this today and thought it was cool, Brock has been training in the Gi, fair play to him.
Then I realized that if we were at the same comp, I could face him in absolute :eek:

I wonder what size that GI is?????

A man of his size and speed and wrestling ability with some BJJ is just Scary scary scary

TitianGerm

Mellor wrote: »

Seen this today and thought it was cool, Brock has been training in the Gi, fair play to him.
Then I realized that if we were at the same comp, I could face him in absolute :eek:

So could I

I'd really have to take the speedy approach and just run for the car

Dave 101

Mellor wrote: »

Seen this today and thought it was cool, Brock has been training in the Gi, fair play to him.
Then I realized that if we were at the same comp, I could face him in absolute :eek:

id be in his division , looks like the gi is just out of the packet, wonder if he just put it on to get the belt/picture....

Mellor

Dave 101 wrote: »

id be in his division , looks like the gi is just out of the packet, wonder if he just put it on to get the belt/picture....

According to somebody on Reddit who's trained with people from that gym. He's been training there a while.

TitianGerm

Two new Irish BB in Gracie Barra Northern Ireland.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1419240074963839?view=permalink&id=1850404001847442

Subcomandante Marcos

emmetkenny wrote: »

Two new Irish BB in Gracie Barra Northern Ireland.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1419240074963839?view=permalink&id=1850404001847442

Oss.

Hespect to the man dem.

feelpablo

anybody from here doing this comp???

http://server.strongvon.com/BrazilianJiujitsuLeagueIrelandLetterkennycopycopy/m_tournament_main.jsp?page=Registrants.html

TitianGerm

feelpablo wrote: »

anybody from here doing this comp???

http://server.strongvon.com/BrazilianJiujitsuLeagueIrelandLetterkennycopycopy/m_tournament_main.jsp?page=Registrants.html

To far for me to go unfortunately.

Something I've noticed in the 3 years since I started is the price of competitions is rising even though the numbers attending are going through the roof. Unfortunately I can't afford to go to as many as I would like.

feelpablo

emmetkenny wrote: »

To far for me to go unfortunately.

Something I've noticed in the 3 years since I started is the price of competitions is rising even though the numbers attending are going through the roof. Unfortunately I can't afford to go to as many as I would like.

Some defo are without a doubt.....this one though was only 25 early reg which i dont think you could give out about.... delighted as its only 45 mins away from me.
think they have 160 competitors for it

TitianGerm

feelpablo wrote: »

Some defo are without a doubt.....this one though was only 25 early reg which i dont think you could give out about.... delighted as its only 45 mins away from me.
think they have 160 competitors for it

BJJ league is reasonable alright but are they all been held in Letterkenny this year? They used to have one in Cork and one or two in Dublin along with the Letterkenny one.

feelpablo

emmetkenny wrote: »

BJJ league is reasonable alright but are they all been held in Letterkenny this year? They used to have one in Cork and one or two in Dublin along with the Letterkenny one.

Aye first one was on in cork in feb as far as i can remember

TitianGerm

feelpablo wrote: »

Aye first one was on in cork in feb as far as i can remember

Is Braulio Estimate up your way this summer? I thought I saw something about it the other day.

feelpablo

emmetkenny wrote: »

Is Braulio Estimate up your way this summer? I thought I saw something about it the other day.

yeah think hes in belfast at some stage allright...most look into that actually

The Baron of Ballymun

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a good jiu jitsu club in north Dublin/City Center.. I've been training the past few weeks with a club in the finglas area but because i work in the city center i can never make the beginners class which starts at 6 so i end up doing the the advanced class. I know you guys are gonna say you will only get better by training with better people but it's not very encouraging when you spend the whole roll just trying to survive and if I do get in a good position i dont have the basics to make any use of it.. I've heard mixed reviews about Jorge Santos place so any advice would be a huge help

TitianGerm

The Baron of Ballymun wrote: »

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a good jiu jitsu club in north Dublin/City Center.. I've been training the past few weeks with a club in the finglas area but because i work in the city center i can never make the beginners class which starts at 6 so i end up doing the the advanced class. I know you guys are gonna say you will only get better by training with better people but it's not very encouraging when you spend the whole roll just trying to survive and if I do get in a good position i dont have the basics to make any use of it.. I've heard mixed reviews about Jorge Santos place so any advice would be a huge help

I was going to recommend Jorge Santos in Parnell Street.

There's also Fantom on Moore Street which I've trained in once but been at open mats where a few of their guys were as well.

Think there is a gym just off Pearse Street beside Chartered Accountants Ireland either, Wild Geese I think.

North side you have Satori and Royal Grappling Acamady in Blachardstown.

The Baron of Ballymun

emmetkenny wrote: »

I was going to recommend Jorge Santos in Parnell Street.

There's also Fantom on Moore Street which I've trained in once but been at open mats where a few of their guys were as well.

Think there is a gym just off Pearse Street beside Chartered Accountants Ireland either, Wild Geese I think.

North side you have Satori and Royal Grappling Acamady in Blachardstown.

Thanks for that I'll have a look at there timetables and see what time there beginners classes are at... Ever hear of balance in drumcondra??

TitianGerm

The Baron of Ballymun wrote: »

Thanks for that I'll have a look at there timetables and see what time there beginners classes are at... Ever hear of balance in drumcondra??

I've heard if them but don't know anyone who has trained there.

There's also a club up in DCU.

Kyzo and Team Ryano wouldn't be a million miles away from Drumcondra either.

rossi.

The Baron of Ballymun wrote: »

Thanks for that I'll have a look at there timetables and see what time there beginners classes are at... Ever hear of balance in drumcondra??

Maeve that posts here is the one to help you with info on balance, i know they run a four week beginners class on tue/thur- 730pm, for cheap cash (might be a free tshirt too)

Mellor

The Baron of Ballymun wrote: »

I know you guys are gonna say you will only get better by training with better people

I actual wouldn't advice the advanced class tbh. You'll get better with all training of course, and variety of levels is important. But being dominated constantly is not the most effective way to train. You are doing the right thing looking for a more suitable class imo.

The Baron of Ballymun

Thanks for the advice everyone...I feel my progress would be a lot slower if I kept doing the advanced class, training with people at my level would allow me to get my confidence up.. I want to set myself realistic goals so I'm wondering how long it took your guys to get your first blue stripe on your white belt.. I know everyone has different learning rates and mat time is a massive thing but if I did 2 classes a week for 6 months do you think think i would get a blue stripe? A blue belt would take up 2 years right??

TitianGerm

The Baron of Ballymun wrote: »

Thanks for the advice everyone...I feel my progress would be a lot slower if I kept doing the advanced class, training with people at my level would allow me to get my confidence up.. I want to set myself realistic goals so I'm wondering how long it took your guys to get your first blue stripe on your white belt.. I know everyone has different learning rates and mat time is a massive thing but if I did 2 classes a week for 6 months do you think think i would get a blue stripe? A blue belt would take up 2 years right??

Don't worry about stripes or belts now. Go to class and enjoy yourself. The stripes will come in time.

Mellor

The Baron of Ballymun wrote: »

Thanks for the advice everyone...I feel my progress would be a lot slower if I kept doing the advanced class, training with people at my level would allow me to get my confidence up.. I want to set myself realistic goals so I'm wondering how long it took your guys to get your first blue stripe on your white belt.. I know everyone has different learning rates and mat time is a massive thing but if I did 2 classes a week for 6 months do you think think i would get a blue stripe? A blue belt would take up 2 years right??

I've never had any stripes on my white belt. Went straight from plain white to plain blue. It took me 2.5 years, if I chased it a bit harder it could have been 2 years.
6 months per stripe sounds about right, but they are highly subjective benchmarks. Some schools do them purely based on time, not skill.

Mellor

In other news, competed in a Grappling Industries tourney at the weekend. NoGi intermediate, Round Robin format, sub only.

First match I won by armbar from mount,
Second I double legged into a guillotine.
Third was an armbar from mount.
Forth, I was in control from the start, lost an armbar attack early on. Eventually we reset in full guard with 25 seconds left. I went for a hip bump triangle I've been working on, and landed it. The guy went blue but ran the clock down.

Annoyed to miss out on the final sub when it was there (my own fault for trying to attack an armbar at the same time) but very happy to hit that set up in a comp.

Came second overall, for my first medal at bluebelt. Needed that little confidence boost.

RoboRat

I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a good jiu jitsu club in north Dublin/City Center.. I've been training the past few weeks with a club in the finglas area but because i work in the city center i can never make the beginners class which starts at 6 so i end up doing the the advanced class. I know you guys are gonna say you will only get better by training with better people but it's not very encouraging when you spend the whole roll just trying to survive and if I do get in a good position i dont have the basics to make any use of it.. I've heard mixed reviews about Jorge Santos place so any advice would be a huge help

Royal Grappling Academy in Blanch - Roger is a highly decorated MG Brown Belt
Team Ryano Jamestown road - Andy Ryan is a legend in Ireland that is a serious team with 4 or 5 black belts
SGB Charlestown - Owen Roddy is a black belt and one of Conor McGregor coaches
Kuyzo Ballyboggan Road - Barry Oglesby is a Drysdale Black Belt.

Most of these would have a varied schedule to cater for different levels and also at varying times. I know RGA do early classes (around 6am).

TitianGerm

Mellor wrote: »

In other news, competed in a Grappling Industries tourney at the weekend. NoGi intermediate, Round Robin format, sub only.

First match I won by armbar from mount,
Second I double legged into a guillotine.
Third was an armbar from mount.
Forth, I was in control from the start, lost an armbar attack early on. Eventually we reset in full guard with 25 seconds left. I went for a hip bump triangle I've been working on, and landed it. The guy went blue but ran the clock down.

Annoyed to miss out on the final sub when it was there (my own fault for trying to attack an armbar at the same time) but very happy to hit that set up in a comp.

Came second overall, for my first medal at bluebelt. Needed that little confidence boost.

Where was that comp on?

Chairman Meow

The Baron of Ballymun wrote: »

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a good jiu jitsu club in north Dublin/City Center.. I've been training the past few weeks with a club in the finglas area but because i work in the city center i can never make the beginners class which starts at 6 so i end up doing the the advanced class. I know you guys are gonna say you will only get better by training with better people but it's not very encouraging when you spend the whole roll just trying to survive and if I do get in a good position i dont have the basics to make any use of it.. I've heard mixed reviews about Jorge Santos place so any advice would be a huge help

I train at Jorge Santos. Its a great gym, great teachers, really good atmosphere too. The beginners class is a good place to start. THey do a beginners fundamentals class almost every day i think

I did some MMA training at balance a couple years ago, didnt like it tho. i was a total beginner, and it seemed like everyone else there was competing to get into the UFC and got thrown into sparring on my first week and got ****in rekt. Didnt enjoy it at all.

Mellor

emmetkenny wrote: »

Where was that comp on?

Sydney.
They run events in Australia and the US at the moment. Sometimes sub only, others follow the IBJJF rules. But always a round robin format. I find its a great option for guys only starting to compete. As they pick up multiple matches regards of the result.

TitianGerm

Mellor wrote: »

Sydney.
They run events in Australia and the US at the moment. Sometimes sub only, others follow the IBJJF rules. But always a round robin format. I find its a great option for guys only starting to compete. As they pick up multiple matches regards of the result.

Bit far for me to travel

Mellor

emmetkenny wrote: »

Bit far for me to travel

They're having one in New York next month. That's a bit closer to you. Keenan vrs Gordon Ryan at that one too

TitianGerm

Mellor wrote: »

They're having one in New York next month. That's a bit closer to you. Keenan vrs Gordon Ryan at that one too

I'm planning on heading over to NY this year or next with the girlfriend for a holiday.

Just haven't told her I'll be heading to a few gyms when I'm there

The Baron of Ballymun

I did my first class in Balance last night and enjoyed it. A bit basic at times but that's what i wanted, only bad thing is beginners are not allowed to roll for the first 4 weeks, its understandable I guess but still 4 weeks without a roll is a long time.

arybvtcw0eolkf

The Baron of Ballymun wrote: »

I did my first class in Balance last night and enjoyed it. A bit basic at times but that's what i wanted, only bad thing is beginners are not allowed to roll for the first 4 weeks, its understandable I guess but still 4 weeks without a roll is a long time.

Did they say why?

TitianGerm

Phoebe Full Overlap wrote: »

Did they say why?

A lot of clubs don't allow people to roll for the first few weeks.

To easy for a new person to not tap or hurt someone because they don't know what they are doing.

arybvtcw0eolkf

emmetkenny wrote: »

A lot of clubs don't allow people to roll for the first few weeks.

To easy for a new person to not tap or hurt someone because they don't know what they are doing.

Cool, I've never trained in any of them. I really don't see a problem with a newbie rolling with an experienced club member.

Dave 101

Phoebe Full Overlap wrote: »

Cool, I've never trained in any of them. I really don't see a problem with a newbie rolling with an experienced club member.

the real problem is 2 newbies rolling with each other, but i do think you should be rolling from day 1 under proper supervision

TitianGerm

Phoebe Full Overlap wrote: »

Cool, I've never trained in any of them. I really don't see a problem with a newbie rolling with an experienced club member.

In the club I train in the coach does not allow a new person roll with anyone for about 4/5 classes until he sees they know the basics (mount, open guard, side control and closed guard) and is able to control themselves a bit.

Once he's happy that they won't 'freak out' they are allowed to roll with some of the more experienced people but beginners are not allowed to roll with each other unsupervised for another little while, ie an experienced guy keeping a close eye on their roll.

Another way to look at it is the coach does not want a new person getting tapped constantly in their first week, getting disheartened and not coming again.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Dave 101 wrote: »

the real problem is 2 newbies rolling with each other, but i do think you should be rolling from day 1 under proper supervision

I would always discourage two newbies rolling with each other, there's nothing to be gained from it and everything to lose.

Depending on how the class is structured, ie warm up, drills, fundamentals for newbs etc before rolling then I don't see the harm in it (newbie rolls).

However if a coach is not comfortable with that in his club well so be it for me to knock him for it.

However I get frustrated with some coaches method of instruction whereby they (the coach) try to take a whole class for instruction rather than utilizing his higher grades (for some coaching basics).

darced

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Mellor

darced wrote: »

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I'm pretty sure that's already happened, sadly