Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

Stheno

AnonoBoy wrote: »

A man that can go out and earn a living without resorting to the easy route of crime - that's someone to be admired. THAT'S the hard way. Slogging it out, getting up at the crack of dawn to go to a terrible job because you have responsibilities. Working your way up and taking time to improve yourself and invest in your future and the future of your children. That's the hard way.

Two of the people I most admire in a very peripheral way work in a place I eat in most weeks.

They emigrated here from Hungary a few years ago, adopted Irish names that fit their Hungarian names, and work as waiters in the place I eat in and are married with now two children.

They've built up a real rapport with their customers, and when they recently had their second child, the husband who is still at work while his wife is on leave was congratulated constantly by their regular customers.

Now they work very hard, live a fair bit away from where they work, I've no idea what they do for childcare, but they are people who have chosen the hard way.

Not Gerry Hutch and his ilk.

my friend

Bertie Ahern allowed the rise of the scum.

Stheno

bajer101 wrote: »

I actually do admire this one in a way. I pulled up short in my previous post of saying that it was nearly good to see old school, smart gangsters again. Instead of jumped up coke fueled idiots. There will always be gangsters. I like The Monk. He has a bit of honesty about him. Not like Jim Mansfield - the "auld fella", who bought everyone. Watch as this thread gets shut down.



I do actually admire Gerry. I admire him a lot more than Jim Mansfield who flew hundreds of millions of drugs into the country through his private airport while he paid off politicians.

He was done. He had retired to the Canaries. He was forced out of retirement by some gob****es. But he is a different class.

Are you just going to repeat yourself and then make unproven claims against dead men?

Don't you have any argument against the posts countering yours?

tigger123

This thread is going well.

AnonoBoy

StringerBell wrote: »

I doubt it was laziness that led Gerry Hutch down the path he took tbh

Maybe not - maybe it was him being a scumbag.

tigger123

my friend wrote: »

Bertie Ahern allowed the rise of the scum.

Thanks Obama!

Hammer89

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Maybe not - maybe it was him being a scumbag.

I'd say the path led him to becoming a scumbag - not the other way around. He was obviously raised in a rough area, mixed with rough friends and soon learned that it was easier to make money the illegal way. Nobody's born a criminal. Product of their environment, isn't that what they say?

AnonoBoy

Hammer89 wrote: »

I'd say the path led him to becoming a scumbag - not the other way around. He was obviously raised in a rough area, mixed with rough friends and soon learned that it was easier to make money the illegal way. Nobody's born a criminal. Product of their environment, isn't that what they say?

You say it's easier to make money the illegal way - so then.... laziness?

I know loads of people from bad environments who aren't criminals. What did they have that the criminals don't?

And just to be clear - I'm not talking about young lads who made a mistake or two. Everyone has made mistakes - I certainly did. I'm talking about these career criminals who know exactly what they're doing, know that it's completely wrong but yet choose to do it.

And people think these f*ckwits are "admirable"?

Why's that then?

my friend

tigger123 wrote: »

Thanks Obama!

I'll take Trump or Sanders over that fool.

Atlantic Dawn

Interesting time for lawless gunning with the election upon us. I'd say the region that the folks are from will be given a nice wide berth by the politicians on the ground touting for votes, an ill wind and all that.

buried

This is what happens when you don't share the wealth around the island and confine it to one little part of the country. That one little part becomes the main high grade cocaine market and then you get all this bangbang wannabe scarface $hit. The Dublin based media love glorifying about it because the Dublin based media are the biggest customers and consumers of the stuff

Stheno

buried wrote: »

This is what happens when you don't share the wealth around the island and confine it to one little part of the country. That one little part becomes the main high grade cocaine market and then you get all this bangbang wannabe scarface $hit. The Dublin based media love glorifying about it because the Dublin based media are the biggest customers and consumers of the stuff

wtf? These people were all originally Dublin based?

It's not like they are from ballygobackward?

And you do realise that tax contributed by Dublin disproportionately supports the rest of the country?

dd972

Aineoil wrote: »

The Campbell case was just so sad - wrong place at the wrong time. Terrible for his family.

No, a decent young chap doing a days work, you never hear of the scum being in the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong things.

Hammer89

AnonoBoy wrote: »

You say it's easier to make money the illegal way - so then.... laziness?

I know loads of people from bad environments who aren't criminals. What did they have that the criminals don't?

And just to be clear - I'm not talking about young lads who made a mistake or two. Everyone has made mistakes - I certainly did. I'm talking about these career criminals who know exactly what they're doing, know that it's completely wrong but yet choose to do it.

And people think these f*ckwits are "admirable"?

Why's that then?

Who's saying they're admirable? I'm not. I could care less if every gangster in Ireland dropped dead right now.

I'm saying gangsters often become gangsters as a result of their surroundings during childhood. Quite a lot of them might've been deprived of a lot of things as children. Quite a lot of them would've had work-shy parents, who didn't set positive examples for the kids during their seminal years.

If you've got absolutely no work ethic, which is a learned trait, then ideally you'll want an easy way to make money and it doesn't come much easier than selling drugs or robbing shops.

I'm not condoning a criminal's way of life, because there is a certain age where we're all accountable for what we do, but a lot of these blokes were born to be scumbags - but they weren't born as scumbags and that's key.

Kermit.de.frog

I was half expecting the boxer with the superman boxers was running off to get his cape to protect the citizens.


But he just ran away

Kermit.de.frog

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Hammer89

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I was half expecting the boxer with the superman boxers was running off to get his cape to protect the citizens.

But he just ran away

I would've been on the 46a by the time the second shot was fired to be fair.

StewartGriffin

tigger123 wrote: »

This thread is going well.

It's right up there with the USB stick thread.

AnonoBoy

Hammer89 wrote: »

Who's saying they're admirable? I'm not.

bajer101 is saying it pretty much.

That's who I was addressing.

Stheno

Hammer89 wrote: »

I'm not condoning a criminal's way of life, because there is a certain age where we're all accountable for what we do, but a lot of these blokes were born to be scumbags - but they weren't born as scumbags and that's key.

So Gerry Hutch can be a clean living individual while choosing a criminals life and still be clean living?

The man allegedly stole millions in two bank robberies, then allegedly turned away from a life of crime more than a decade ago, but is now being linked to these murders?

Are you saying they have chosen to pursue this life?

I'm asking that as someone from a fairly non priviledged background, who has done ok btw

Maximus Alexander

I can't be the only one who's never heard of any of these people?

Stheno

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I was half expecting the boxer with the superman boxers was running off to get his cape to protect the citizens.


But he just ran away

I found that most ironic.

buried

Stheno wrote: »

wtf? These people were all originally Dublin based?

It's not like they are from ballygobackward?

And you do realise that tax contributed by Dublin disproportionately supports the rest of the country?

No idea what your on about really, but the fact is this - Wherever you have the highest levels of monetary wealth you will have the highest level of high grade narcotic usage. With that you will have the highest concentration of criminal gangs looking to take advantage of that actual situation. A five year old can tell you that. You won't see any cocaine gang wars going on in "ballygobackward" or whatever the F**k that means

prinzeugen

Stheno wrote: »

So Gerry Hutch can be a clean living individual while choosing a criminals life and still be clean living?

The man allegedly stole millions in two bank robberies, then allegedly turned away from a life of crime more than a decade ago, but is now being linked to these murders?

Are you saying they have chosen to pursue this life?

I'm asking that as someone from a fairly non priviledged background, who has done ok btw

Overheard a conversation between three teen boys on the 83 a few weeks ago.

It centred around what the worst crime they could do and not get jail time.

They were boasting that they "knew" blah blah and they got away with xxxx etc.

These guys though criminals were hero's and wanted to copy them.

So yes, they choose that lifestyle.

AnonoBoy

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I can't be the only one who's never heard of any of these people?

Me either - they all fade into one big blur of criminal scumbags to me. The people who keep tabs on them and their "achievements" as if they're following sporting legends are worrying though.

Hammer89

Stheno wrote: »

So Gerry Hutch can be a clean living individual while choosing a criminals life and still be clean living?

The man allegedly stole millions in two bank robberies, then allegedly turned away from a life of crime more than a decade ago, but is now being linked to these murders?

Are you saying they have chosen to pursue this life?

I'm asking that as someone from a fairly non priviledged background, who has done ok btw

Let's just say I think a lot of children are f*cked before they're even born. Naturally some will prosper - the rose that grew from concrete like Tupac said - but a lot of them aren't going to have a superb quality of life in the long run I don't think. We're talking a life on the dole, a life of crime or a life of odd jobs here and there but nothing you'd call a career.

buried

buried wrote: »

No idea what your on about really, but the fact is this - Wherever you have the highest levels of monetary wealth you will have the highest level of high grade narcotic usage. With that you will have the highest concentration of criminal gangs looking to take advantage of that actual situation. A five year old can tell you that. You won't see any cocaine gang wars going on in "ballygobackward" or whatever the F**k that means

Drugs everywhere. I live in a small village in Tipp and there is quite a few dealers around here and in other surrounding areas. Obviously not on the scale of cities but like Broadband, it started in the urban areas and bit by bit it was distributed to the rural areas

One guy was caught in possession recently and now the Limerick crowd are looking for payback from what i hear

buried

Deleted User wrote: »

Drugs everywhere. I live in a small village in Tipp and there is quite a few dealers around here and in other surrounding areas. Obviously not on the scale of cities but like Broadband, it started in the urban areas and bit by bit it was distributed to the rural areas

Rural areas have $hit broadband and $hit drugs. The real stuff is in Dublin.

buried

buried wrote: »

Rural areas have $hit broadband and $hit drugs. The real stuff is in Dublin.

Ha ha true (on the broadband anyway i dunno about the other) but my point is villages aren't sleepy any more and the worse the quality of drugs the bigger the problem.

JupiterKid

What a horrible thing to happen. And there were children there too. I'd say this'll set off a series of tit for tat gangland killings.